The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers

[76ciology]

I think Keegan would cost way too much, even though he seems like a "buy-low" candidate. A low price for him would still be pretty high considering he is KANGZ only major young talent.

I'd love Aldama but why would the Grizz trade him when he's balling and they're rolling?

The most likely options are guys from bottom-feeder teams.

Huerter instead of Keegan
Jay Huff instead of Aldama

[76ciology]

I wonder what’s going to be the morale of this board, in case we lose our upcoming game against the Jazz.

[Arsenal]

I think Keegan would cost way too much, even though he seems like a "buy-low" candidate. A low price for him would still be pretty high considering he is KANGZ only major young talent.

I'd love Aldama but why would the Grizz trade him when he's balling and they're rolling?

The most likely options are guys from bottom-feeder teams.

Huerter instead of Keegan
Jay Huff instead of Aldama

Huerter isn't worth $17m and Jay Huff is a bargain at $2m/yr the Grizz won't give up.

[76ciology]

Something to consider: Andre Drummond has been a liability for us this season. His rim protection is lacking, and he’s a negative on offense. Meanwhile, there’s an abundance of bigs available for trade right now. For example, the Blazers have two starting-caliber bigs on the market.

A trade like Drummond for Robert Williams, Nick Richards or even Valanciunas would already be a significant upgrade for us.

Nic Claxton’s value also would be all time low right now.

[NearingZero]

Something to consider: Andre Drummond has been a liability for us this season. His rim protection is lacking, and he’s a negative on offense. Meanwhile, there’s an abundance of bigs available for trade right now. For example, the Blazers have two starting-caliber bigs on the market.

A trade like Drummond for Robert Williams, Nick Richards or even Valanciunas would already be a significant upgrade for us.

Nic Claxton’s value also would be all time low right now.

Claxton makes way too much. Williams and Valanciunas would eat into tradeable salary, but you could argue it's worth it because Embiid will still miss plenty of starts (b2b at least). Richards is a perfect salary match. I don't know enough about his game to know what kind of pick compensation would be needed to pry him away.

Drummond's contract might give him a default NTC - my understanding of the CBA is that any veteran 1 yr contract (even with a player option in the 2nd year) has that, but it can be waived at signing by the player.

[zaz102]

My hope is they trade KJ and one or two firsts for Aldama or Jones (or someone in that vein), sign Fultz, and McCain comes back and everyone healthy.

PO Rotation

Embiid / Aldama, Yabusele, Drummond
George & Martin / Aldama, Yabusele, Oubre
Maxey & Oubre / McCain, Fultz, Martin

Just wondering where this came from about McCain, from all accounts, he's out for the season.

Fultz, well we do need a backup PG under 80, but I figure he would be scared to show up.

Based on my Googling, returning to sports after a meniscus repair should take three to six months. Three months would be mid-March, so there is a chance.

I don't think that the Sixers announced McCain is out for the season and I think it is purposeful. However, I do think it's more likely that he is out for the season which is why I specified it was a hope rather than expectation.

The reason I chose Fultz is because he can handle the ball and a cheap upgrade over Lowry, Jackson, and Gordon. However, he is pretty interchangeable as long as they meet those requirements. Maybe Dennis Smith Jr?

[ivysixer2000]

My hope is they trade KJ and one or two firsts for Aldama or Jones (or someone in that vein), sign Fultz, and McCain comes back and everyone healthy.

PO Rotation

Embiid / Aldama, Yabusele, Drummond
George & Martin / Aldama, Yabusele, Oubre
Maxey & Oubre / McCain, Fultz, Martin

Just wondering where this came from about McCain, from all accounts, he's out for the season.

Fultz, well we do need a backup PG under 80, but I figure he would be scared to show up.

Based on my Googling, returning to sports after a meniscus repair should take three to six months. Three months would be mid-March, so there is a chance.

I don't think that the Sixers announced McCain is out for the season and I think it is purposeful. However, I do think it's more likely that he is out for the season which is why I specified it was a hope rather than expectation.

The reason I chose Fultz is because he can handle the ball and a cheap upgrade over Lowry, Jackson, and Gordon. However, he is pretty interchangeable as long as they meet those requirements. Maybe Dennis Smith Jr?

I agree with your line of thinking on both, and hope that McCain can come back as he is the only one that has said he was done for the season. So there is a chance....

As for Fultz, we just need a back up a PG with a pulse, so anyone would do.

[76ciology]

Something to consider: Andre Drummond has been a liability for us this season. His rim protection is lacking, and he’s a negative on offense. Meanwhile, there’s an abundance of bigs available for trade right now. For example, the Blazers have two starting-caliber bigs on the market.

A trade like Drummond for Robert Williams, Nick Richards or even Valanciunas would already be a significant upgrade for us.

Nic Claxton’s value also would be all time low right now.

Claxton makes way too much. Williams and Valanciunas would eat into tradeable salary, but you could argue it's worth it because Embiid will still miss plenty of starts (b2b at least). Richards is a perfect salary match. I don't know enough about his game to know what kind of pick compensation would be needed to pry him away.

Drummond's contract might give him a default NTC - my understanding of the CBA is that any veteran 1 yr contract (even with a player option in the 2nd year) has that, but it can be waived at signing by the player.

Some team can target Nic Claxton instead of Nick Richards, which could leave us Nick Richards available for little assets we are willing to trade.

I think a lot of teams are looking for the same strategy of trading for a big. Pacers and Knicks are also two teams looking for a center. Knicks, maybe not so much with Towns looking good so far this season and Mitchell Robinson being available for them soon.

Im also guessing Paul Reed can be had for second rounders.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

What about Walker Kessler? I've mentioned him numerous times. Jonas V would be an obvious choice, but at what cost? Orlando Magic fans seem willing to part with Wendell Carter. I hate that we're still in this spot despite the Drummond signing. He was supposed to eliminate the backup center issues we've been plagued by, but even his rebounding (which is his best attribute) has been lacking. Defensively he's awful, and he's gone backwards on an already limited offensive game. I still say that the perfect backup center is an athletic player that can hit an open three and play either the 4 or the 5 position. That player is Jalen Smith... Currently rotting in Chicago.

[NearingZero]

What about Walker Kessler? I've mentioned him numerous times. Jonas V would be an obvious choice, but at what cost? Orlando Magic fans seem willing to part with Wendell Carter. I hate that we're still in this spot despite the Drummond signing. He was supposed to eliminate the backup center issues we've been plagued by, but even his rebounding (which is his best attribute) has been lacking. Defensively he's awful, and he's gone backwards on an already limited offensive game. I still say that the perfect backup center is an athletic player that can hit an open three and play either the 4 or the 5 position. That player is Jalen Smith... Currently rotting in Chicago.

Man, I didn't realize Smith isn't getting much playing time in Chicago. His numbers are solid. It looks like they're playing him exclusively at the 5 (no minutes with Vuc).

With Vuc's age, they probably want to keep Smith even though he's underutilized at the moment. He's on a decent deal for 3 years. Would be worth exploring if they would move him, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Kessler also probably doesn't get moved this year for cheap. Low salary next year + RFA control after that. Isn't good enough to hurt their tank.

[Mik317]

.....i feel like Drummond has been fine IN A BACKUP role

or at least other players sucked more than he has lately lol

[Mik317]

People keep mentioning Fultz

he is apparently still hurt and with our crack training staff, they'd finish the job they started his first stint.

[76ciology]

People keep mentioning Fultz

he is apparently still hurt and with our crack training staff, they'd finish the job they started his first stint.

I also think heavy mid-range scorers, especially guards, have taken a hit this season. Teams are increasingly willing to trade threes for mid-range jumpers from players like Fultz, which would lead teams to lose the math game.

[M2J]

People keep mentioning Fultz

he is apparently still hurt and with our crack training staff, they'd finish the job they started his first stint.

I also think heavy mid-range scorers, especially guards, have taken a hit this season. Teams are increasingly willing to trade threes for mid-range jumpers from players like Fultz, which would lead teams to lose the math game.

A Fultz or DSJ SHOULD strictly be there to run offense, penetrate and push pace and defend in minimum minutes or as fill in.

I do think they should just keep their options open for Jared by the time April rolls around. A meniscus doesn't have to be a season ender.... If it happens early enough. He got the repair and while that would've kept anyone out in February like when Joel was weighting options.... But they should consider returning him on a minutes limit that includes the playoffs. 1. Because they need him. 2
Because that's great experience for him.... Like 15 minutes a game was good for Tyrese.

Not saying rush him back. I'm saying if he's ready physically and keep him limited.... Because Nurse will run you into the ground

[76ciology]

People keep mentioning Fultz

he is apparently still hurt and with our crack training staff, they'd finish the job they started his first stint.

I also think heavy mid-range scorers, especially guards, have taken a hit this season. Teams are increasingly willing to trade threes for mid-range jumpers from players like Fultz, which would lead teams to lose the math game.

A Fultz or DSJ SHOULD strictly be there to run offense, penetrate and push pace and defend in minimum minutes or as fill in.

I do think they should just keep their options open for Jared. By the time April rolls around. A meniscus doesn't have to be a season ender.... If it happens early enough. He got the repair and while that would've kept anyone out in February like when Joel was weighting options.... But they should consider returning him on a minutes limit that includes the playoffs. 1. Because they need him. 2
Because that's great experience for him.... Like 15 minutes a game was good for Tyrese.

Not saying rush him back. I'm saying if he's ready physically and keep him limited.... Because Nurse will run you into the ground

I think we’re fine with Eric Gordon filling McCain’s role. While McCain’s a more capable shot creator, we likely won’t need as much shot creation if Maxey and George return to their usual form and Embiid stays healthy and avoids missing too many games.