The LeBron James All-NBA (2nd) and Luka Doncic - 24-25 Thread

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Hindsight: Would you trade Luka back to Dallas for Anthony Davis?

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Post#701 » by nzahir » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:25 pm

Would you guys move Reaves, Dlo, filler and picks for Fox?

Any odds the suns or warriors go the other way and become sellers?

I wonder if we can enter KD ir Curry sweepstakes
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Post#702 » by Tracymcgoaty » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:10 pm

nzahir wrote:Would you guys move Reaves, Dlo, filler and picks for Fox?

Any odds the suns or warriors go the other way and become sellers?

I wonder if we can enter KD ir Curry sweepstakes


Nope.

Why would Kangz even entertain that?
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Post#703 » by zimpy27 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:22 pm

nzahir wrote:Would you guys move Reaves, Dlo, filler and picks for Fox?

Any odds the suns or warriors go the other way and become sellers?

I wonder if we can enter KD ir Curry sweepstakes


Yes I would do that.

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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#704 » by nzahir » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:10 am

Tracymcgoaty wrote:
nzahir wrote:Would you guys move Reaves, Dlo, filler and picks for Fox?

Any odds the suns or warriors go the other way and become sellers?

I wonder if we can enter KD ir Curry sweepstakes


Nope.

Why would Kangz even entertain that?

You wouldnt make the upgrade for Fox?

Not saying its super realistic, but if they want to make a mini reset and retool and get assets

Time frame may not make sense so maybe a 3 teamer?

Unless its Knecht, Dlo, Vincent, Maxwell Lewis, and 29 and 31 unprotected. 28 swap, 30 swap. Send Hayes and Get Mclaughlin back

I dont see that, but would be sick

Trade 2-3 2nds and JHS for a backup C like Sharpe

Fox, Christie, Rui, Bron, AD
Mclaughlin, Reaves, Vando, Wood, Sharpe
Cam, sign a couple vet mins
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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#705 » by Tracymcgoaty » Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:53 am

nzahir wrote:
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nzahir wrote:Would you guys move Reaves, Dlo, filler and picks for Fox?

Any odds the suns or warriors go the other way and become sellers?

I wonder if we can enter KD ir Curry sweepstakes


Nope.

Why would Kangz even entertain that?

You wouldnt make the upgrade for Fox?

Not saying its super realistic, but if they want to make a mini reset and retool and get assets

Time frame may not make sense so maybe a 3 teamer?

Unless its Knecht, Dlo, Vincent, Maxwell Lewis, and 29 and 31 unprotected. 28 swap, 30 swap. Send Hayes and Get Mclaughlin back

I dont see that, but would be sick

Trade 2-3 2nds and JHS for a backup C like Sharpe

Fox, Christie, Rui, Bron, AD
Mclaughlin, Reaves, Vando, Wood, Sharpe
Cam, sign a couple vet mins


I'd do it. Maybe not for both DLO and Reaves but one of them and picks if that works. Either way Fox is better than both of them put together so i dont think Kangz would entertain it.
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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#706 » by The Master » Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:02 am

Lakers will move these long term assets only for allstar-level player, and Fox is one of the few who can become available - but if he's available, considering inflation of contemporary trade prices (Bridges for five 1st rounders and a swap), I don't think he's within a reach for the Lakers.

And while I'd move these pieces, I don't think he would be a good fit for LeBron and AD: streaky shooter (33% from 3s), on ball scorer (2/3 shots unassisted) and mediocre defender --> there's very limited synergy here, so while I'd love to see any move at this point that could improve LAL, considering how easily would it be to outbid Lakers, and Fox being a so-so fit, this is not something I'd dream about.
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Post#707 » by ShaqAttac » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:46 am

so is jj legit or fraud?
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Post#708 » by trickshot » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:18 am

ShaqAttac wrote:so is jj legit or fraud?

Very legit. There's a lot of youtubers seesawing over shallow narratives without actually knowing what's going on. "OMG look same record as last year". They don't see how Lakers make adjustments and go on huge winning streaks. JJ saw the team was deadlast in defensive rating and had them put together a 5 game stretch with the best defensive rating in the league. This is without any of the injured frontcourt players coming back and the same sorry defensive options. There's only so much he can do under the present circumstances and he's doing a lot with it. It's basically last year's team with all of the frontcourt injured and all of the wing depth swapped for 2 sophomores, Koloko and christie. On paper it should be worse but they are rolling.
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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#709 » by ShaqAttac » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:24 am

donnieme wrote:
ShaqAttac wrote:so is jj legit or fraud?

Very legit. There's a lot of youtubers seesawing over shallow narratives without actually knowing what's going on. "OMG look same record as last year". They don't see how Lakers make adjustments and go on huge winning streaks. JJ saw the team was deadlast in defensive rating and had them put together a 5 game stretch with the best defensive rating in the league. This is without any of the injured frontcourt players coming back and the same sorry defensive options. There's only so much he can do under the present circumstances and he's doing a lot with it.

maybe but its gonna look bad if we dont do no better than the guy we called hamas
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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#710 » by LesGrossman » Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:55 pm

Would it make sense for LeBron and AD to give up some salary to help the team akquire talent? Would it technically be possible? I think i recall Dirk doing it and he certainly had a lot less total income than both of them…
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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#711 » by trickshot » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:18 pm

Agree, but have to prefix it with this.

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Numbers don't tell the whole story but when I see the team I find that this one is legit. On many nights the flaws aggressively hold the team back more than the strengths propel them. Without a frontcourt rotation Lakers should be 500 or below until wing and big reinforcements return. Don't get me wrong, talent aplenty but it's still an assembly of mostly scorers who can barely rebound and defend. They are supposed to fall off and stay fallen until Wood and Vando get back or Dlo is moved for multifaceted contributors. JJ is very creative with how he balances what he has. He has Reddish and Max doing exactly what the team needs to stay viable. He didn't throw stuff at the wall, he asked them to grind first and only score as a bonus.
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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#712 » by nzahir » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:03 am

Thoughts on Deandre Hunter?

Also would you guys move Knecht for CamJ?

Any chance you guys see a random star move like Lamelo, Curry, KD or a random great role guy like Herb Jones?
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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#713 » by AmIWrongDude » Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:31 am

nzahir wrote:Thoughts on Deandre Hunter?

Also would you guys move Knecht for CamJ?

Any chance you guys see a random star move like Lamelo, Curry, KD or a random great role guy like Herb Jones?

I’m pretty sure the Pels said Herb is off the table unfortunately but I could just be posturing.

It’s clear the Suns and Warriors are nowhere near close to being contenders so it makes sense for Curry or KD to be on the move but I feel like it would never happen.
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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#714 » by Mos_Heat » Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:09 am

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DFS+Sharpe is the most logical trade. It's a very easy trade to execute, so let's watch how the master gonna fumble it

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Post#715 » by TroubleS0me » Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:23 am

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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#716 » by nzahir » Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:17 am

Mos_Heat wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:
DFS+Sharpe is the most logical trade. It's a very easy trade to execute, so let's watch how the master gonna fumble it

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Eh while that would be annoying

Does DFS and Sharpe do enough to make us a real contender?
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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#717 » by nzahir » Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:30 am

AmIWrongDude wrote:
nzahir wrote:Thoughts on Deandre Hunter?

Also would you guys move Knecht for CamJ?

Any chance you guys see a random star move like Lamelo, Curry, KD or a random great role guy like Herb Jones?

I’m pretty sure the Pels said Herb is off the table unfortunately but I could just be posturing.

It’s clear the Suns and Warriors are nowhere near close to being contenders so it makes sense for Curry or KD to be on the move but I feel like it would never happen.

Herb probably is, but if they are gonna rebuild maybe I can see it. Only 26

But I wonder if they would be interested in a deal around Knecht, 29 1st unprotected, 31 Top 3 protected (becomes 2 2nds if not converyed), 28 swap, 30 swap. Vando/Vincent as the extra salary

Could be a disasterous trade for us in the long term, likely more of a deal you give up for a guy like Fox, but hes on a very good deal and hes an all nba level defender

Bridges got 5 1sts and a swap. Herb is a couple years younger and a much better defender at this point, but Bridges the better offensive player by a good amount

Those 1sts, especially the bucks 1st (at the time even moreso) and the 25, 27, and probably the 29 NY 1sts will be later picks anyways as the team has a lot of talent that isnt old. Maybe 2031 has some high upside. The 28 swap is likely useless

I think our 2 1sts and 2 swaps are worth 3-4 of their 1sts and the swap. And then Knecht is worth a couple 1sts

Would be interesting.

Reaves, Christie, Herb, Bron, AD
Dlo, Vincent, Cam, Rui, Wood/Koloko

Can still send out Dlo and 2nds for an upgrade or a wing like DFS. Or Lonzo?
Still have JHS and 2nds for a C as well
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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#718 » by Mos_Heat » Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:37 am

nzahir wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:
DFS+Sharpe is the most logical trade. It's a very easy trade to execute, so let's watch how the master gonna fumble it

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Eh while that would be annoying

Does DFS and Sharpe do enough to make us a real contender?

No, but there's not a trade or trades that would make LAL A real contender anyways. DFS and Sharpe could adress their needs for a relatively cheep price
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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#719 » by zimpy27 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:24 am

Mos_Heat wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:
DFS+Sharpe is the most logical trade. It's a very easy trade to execute, so let's watch how the master gonna fumble it

Almost there


DFS might be a grizzly


CamJ+Sharpe is better anyway.

DLo+Vando+Knecht+LAL28swap
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CamJ+Sharpe
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Re: The LeBron James & Anthony Davis- 24-25 Thread 

Post#720 » by Mos_Heat » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:39 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:
DFS+Sharpe is the most logical trade. It's a very easy trade to execute, so let's watch how the master gonna fumble it

Almost there


DFS might be a grizzly


CamJ+Sharpe is better anyway.

DLo+Vando+Knecht+LAL28swap
For
CamJ+Sharpe

If they can get Johnson for Knecht and a swap they should do it right now
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