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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#441 » by 2weekswithpay » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:23 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Being a Laker fan and hearing that Vuc only needing 2 srp's, this on youtube ... 2 srp's for Vuc ... Trade works on spotrac.

Rui, Wood, Hayes and 2 Srp's should get the job done? just wondering.


You'd be okay with trading Rui for Vuc?

I'd be fine with this in return.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#442 » by sco » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:25 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Being a Laker fan and hearing that Vuc only needing 2 srp's, this on youtube ... 2 srp's for Vuc ... Trade works on spotrac.

Rui, Wood, Hayes and 2 Srp's should get the job done? just wondering.

I imagine that if we did a Vuc to LAL for 2 2nds, they salaries would all need to be expiring. I think Rui's deal is for 2 years, but Russell has an expiring deal. Personally, I think 2nd's are worth next to nothing, so I wouldn't do it. It's not clear to me what direction the Bulls' FO is looking to go. If a tank is in the offing, then your deal might get done. If they want to build for the future, they might be looking to get someone like Vandy in the deal.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#443 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:26 pm

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SlimShady83 wrote:Being a Laker fan and hearing that Vuc only needing 2 srp's, this on youtube ... 2 srp's for Vuc ... Trade works on spotrac.

Rui, Wood, Hayes and 2 Srp's should get the job done? just wondering.


You'd be okay with trading Rui for Vuc?

I'd be fine with this in return.


We like Rui, I mean I would, he mostly just rebounds, scared to shoot IMO I think It's an upgrade and we get a decent center, age Is a prob with Vuc, but he produces sooo.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#444 » by ChettheJet » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:55 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Being a Laker fan and hearing that Vuc only needing 2 srp's, this on youtube ... 2 srp's for Vuc ... Trade works on spotrac.

Rui, Wood, Hayes and 2 Srp's should get the job done? just wondering.



Hayes and Wood make that work. A 3 man center rotation can sort itself out. For teams who haven't traded most of the 2nd round picks they aren't worth much but the Bulls' cupboard is bare. They can use a couple of 2nds just to have options.

If Rui isn't shooting much it's probably being with Lebron and AD who shoot plenty. Look at how Kuzma's game changed when those two showed up and then when he moved on to other teams. Rui doesn't have to score as much as Vuc, the Bulls can get more shots for Giddey, Lonzo, Coby and Patrick, they win more when they spread the wealth.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#445 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:00 pm

ChettheJet wrote:If Rui isn't shooting much it's probably being with Lebron and AD who shoot plenty.


He just seems scared to me, his open quite a lot, but will often drive It In and then he'll kick It back out to someone else. Doesn't do It all the time, though. I like him, but Lakers need a center
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#446 » by Muzbar » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:30 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Being a Laker fan and hearing that Vuc only needing 2 srp's, this on youtube ... 2 srp's for Vuc ... Trade works on spotrac.

Rui, Wood, Hayes and 2 Srp's should get the job done? just wondering.

That's a 3 for 1 trade, the Bulls would have to release 2 players before completing this trade. I'd try and alter it to the Bulls can add more salary/players.

Overall, I don't dislike the trade. It's just a bit complicated.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#447 » by Dan Z » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:07 am

Muzbar wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Being a Laker fan and hearing that Vuc only needing 2 srp's, this on youtube ... 2 srp's for Vuc ... Trade works on spotrac.

Rui, Wood, Hayes and 2 Srp's should get the job done? just wondering.

That's a 3 for 1 trade, the Bulls would have to release 2 players before completing this trade. I'd try and alter it to the Bulls can add more salary/players.

Overall, I don't dislike the trade. It's just a bit complicated.


If I'm AK I'd ask for Bronny. Haha.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#448 » by SlimShady83 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:11 am

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SlimShady83 wrote:Being a Laker fan and hearing that Vuc only needing 2 srp's, this on youtube ... 2 srp's for Vuc ... Trade works on spotrac.

Rui, Wood, Hayes and 2 Srp's should get the job done? just wondering.

That's a 3 for 1 trade, the Bulls would have to release 2 players before completing this trade. I'd try and alter it to the Bulls can add more salary/players.

Overall, I don't dislike the trade. It's just a bit complicated.


If I'm AK I'd ask for Bronny. Haha.


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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#449 » by BigJimFinn » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:56 am

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HomoSapien wrote:I want Walker Kessler.

I wanted to draft him several years ago. We took Dalen Terry instead.

Walker Kessler isn't a star, but he's a building block and a defensive force. Here's a bunch of random trade ideas. Does Ainge agree to any of them?

1. Kessler and Clarkson for Coby White and Duarte

2. Kessler and Eubanks for Josh Giddey

3. Kessler and Clarkson for Patrick WIlliams

4. Bulls trade: Vucevic, Craig, Duarte
Bulls receive: Kessler, Moody, Looney, Payton II

Warriors Trade: 2025 1st, Looney, Moody, Payton II
Warriors Receive: Vucevic and Craig

Jazz Trade: Kessler
Jazz Receive: GS 2025 1st and Duarte



2. Kessler and Eubanks for Josh Giddey

Would love this trade, turn Giddy into a real long term asset and the Jazz have been dying to have a real PG to help
guide the team and direct there younger players.


Sorry but this isn't actually true. The Jazz have been dying to tank properly, and for that purpose they have gotten rid of any half-decent playmaker that would increase the risk of unwanted wins. FGS, they had to release Kris Effin Dunn because he was too useful for them last year! Sure, having Giddey on the Jazz might make them half-watchable again, but no way does Ainge do this. Having the tanking triumvirate of Keyonte George, Sexton and Clarkson wasting possessions is key to their race for the Flagg.
Although he might trade Sexton or Clarkson at the deadline to give more minutes for Isaiah Collier, currently rating as the worst player in the league.

None of the Kessler proposals here make sense for Utah, his asking price has been 2 real firsts and Ainge will happily keep him, as he is simultaneously a useful future piece and not really hurting the tank at the moment despite playing well, as he can't prevent the guards throwing the ball away.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#450 » by ChettheJet » Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:03 pm

SAC fires Mike Brown.

One of my cardinal rules is look for teams that fire their coach to start trading. They know the coach isn't why they're losing, no new guy is going to turn it around. The GM/VP knows he's the next one out the door so he needs to shake up the roster. Of course in the Kings space he's the one that signed DeRozan so he either finds some guys he thinks compliment Demar or he changes direction and trades him.

You wonder if SAC thinks Lavine might bring enough scoring for them and the finds a 3rd team that will take Demar. Or Zach's contract is enough to take as they send Fox to SAS, what besides the Bulls pick, can the Spurs to them.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#451 » by Clint Eastwood » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:02 pm

ChettheJet wrote:SAC fires Mike Brown.

One of my cardinal rules is look for teams that fire their coach to start trading. They know the coach isn't why they're losing, no new guy is going to turn it around. The GM/VP knows he's the next one out the door so he needs to shake up the roster. Of course in the Kings space he's the one that signed DeRozan so he either finds some guys he thinks compliment Demar or he changes direction and trades him.

You wonder if SAC thinks Lavine might bring enough scoring for them and the finds a 3rd team that will take Demar. Or Zach's contract is enough to take as they send Fox to SAS, what besides the Bulls pick, can the Spurs to them.

If they want to shake it up, this works financially…
Vuc, Lavine and Torrey Craig for Sabonis, Huerter, Lyles.

Sabonis is under contract for one more year than zach and is one year younger. He is a flawed player who puts up great numbers. Isnt fast paced player and isnt a defender at the rim. They replace him with a similar player in vuc, who is a poor mans version of him and they get a stud fast scoring player in Zach who is light years better than Huerter and they get out of Huerters extra year of contract past this year. Lyles and Craig are kind of a wash as far as contributions and make the money work.

Sacramento lineup
Vuc
Murray
Derozan
Lavine
Fox

Their owner wants an offensive team, and this is an offensive team. No defense at all, but who can stop them on offense? Clearly, they should move derozan for a 3 and D player after this, but maybe this nutty offense only team is what they want?

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Sabonis
Jalen Smith
Matas
Ayo
Giddey
———-
Coby
Huerter
Pat Williams
Lyles
Phillips

Good for the tank this year, good for balance. Good for youth development.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#452 » by ChiTownHero1992 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:32 pm

Just waiting for the trades to begin, want to see some action!

A funny for sh*ts and giggles trade deadline:

Trade #1 - A 4-team highly-unlikely trade:

Bulls In: Capela, Nance, Zeller, Russell, Wood, Lyles and Draft Capital
Bulls Out: Lavine, Vuc, Carter, Terry

Lakers In: Vuc
Lakers Out: Wood, Hayes, Russell, Draft Capital

Kings In: Lavine
Kings Out: Huerter, Derozan, Lyles, Draft Capital

Hawks In: Hayes, Derozan, Huerter
Hawks Out: Capela, Nance, Zeller

Trade #2 -

Bulls In: Kessler, Clarkson
Bulls Out: Giddey, Zeller, Duarte

Trade #3 -

Bulls In: Adams, Tate
Bulls Out: Clarkson, Wood, Lyles

Rockets In: Clarkson, Wood, Lyles
Rockets Out: Adams, Tate

End of Deadline Roster:

Ball/Russell
Coby/Ayo
Williams/Tate/Phillips
Matas/Nance, Craig
Kessler/Capela/Adams/Smith/Wood


We go from PG heavy to PF/C heavy (shocking), get a staple in Kessler and basically the entire roster is expiring nearly 100 Million, except Coby, Ayo, Williams, Matas, Kessler lol

Never gonna happen but was fun to figure out!


And the best part is that we'd be ungodly terrible to finish out the season!
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#453 » by 2weekswithpay » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:57 pm

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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#454 » by sco » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:10 pm

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Carter for a 2nd and expirings works for me.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#455 » by Chi town » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:39 pm

Hahahaha. Carter goes nuclear one game and now there is trade interest?

Him and Craig should both be gone soon.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#456 » by ChettheJet » Sat Dec 28, 2024 7:36 pm

I'd take close to anything for Carter,

Yes SAC would love to change their roster, there's no way that they consider swapping out who they want to move on from for a busload of Chicago Bulls. It makes no sense to think they see 60% of last year's Bulls starting lineup as any kind of step up.

I can't see how the Bulls make such a huge 3 trade move and end up with one new starter Buzelis and FIVE centers, you're bumping Smith to after thought? I'd want to make these moves well before the deadline so when it comes you look for contenders who would want Adams, Wood, Craig even DLo for minimum guards and 2nd round picks

If they moved all those pieces I'd see

Ayo Ball THT
White Russell
Williams Tate Buzelis
Smith Nance Phillips Craig Wood
Kessler Capela Adams
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#457 » by Muzbar » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:42 pm

Chi town wrote:Hahahaha. Carter goes nuclear one game and now there is trade interest?

Him and Craig should both be gone soon.

Not only that, but the team he blew up against is the team that's interested. Are they run by a RealGM'er?
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#458 » by Clint Eastwood » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:35 pm

ChettheJet wrote:I'd take close to anything for Carter,

Yes SAC would love to change their roster, there's no way that they consider swapping out who they want to move on from for a busload of Chicago Bulls. It makes no sense to think they see 60% of last year's Bulls starting lineup as any kind of step up.

I can't see how the Bulls make such a huge 3 trade move and end up with one new starter Buzelis and FIVE centers, you're bumping Smith to after thought? I'd want to make these moves well before the deadline so when it comes you look for contenders who would want Adams, Wood, Craig even DLo for minimum guards and 2nd round picks

If they moved all those pieces I'd see

Ayo Ball THT
White Russell
Williams Tate Buzelis
Smith Nance Phillips Craig Wood
Kessler Capela Adams

I understand about not wanting 60% of bulls starters last year, but remember lavine was hurt, and vuc was playing terrible. Lavine is at his best now and healthy, vuc is playing the best of his career, and you sub out pat williams and coby for Murray and fox. That team is much better than our bulls squad last year. Their roster as constructed is going nowhere, and is terrible on defense. This new lineup for them would be quite the offensive spectacle.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#459 » by Infinity2152 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:01 am

Rumors swirling around the Kings after really slow start. Assume the coach firing was to appease Fox, but he turned down their super max extension and appears to be viewing the market. If they keep losing, who knows? Saw it on several articles, but here's one discussing it.
https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-deaaron-fox-linked-to-4-teams-by-nba-insider-as-trade-buzz-intensifies
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #11 

Post#460 » by Chi town » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:08 am

Infinity2152 wrote:Rumors swirling around the Kings after really slow start. Assume the coach firing was to appease Fox, but he turned down their super max extension and appears to be viewing the market. If they keep losing, who knows? Saw it on several articles, but here's one discussing it.
https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-deaaron-fox-linked-to-4-teams-by-nba-insider-as-trade-buzz-intensifies


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