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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#721 » by wco81 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:17 pm

Former 49ers Dana Stubblefield has a rape conviction overturned because he was accused of using a gun and a search for a gun was never conducted.

Stubblefield was convicted in July 2020 of raping a woman who was allegedly at his home to interview for a babysitting job in 2015. She claimed he threatened her with a gun, but police never searched for it. Prosecutors claimed the reason a search was never done had partly to do with Stubblefield being a famous Black man on trial during the George Floyd protests.

“The use of a firearm was centerpiece to Mr. Stubblefield’s conviction in this case, and yet the police never searched his home to see whether he even had a firearm,” legal analyst Steven Clark said.

Stubblefield was originally sentenced to 15 years to life in prison.


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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#722 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:29 pm

wco81 wrote:Former 49ers Dana Stubblefield has a rape conviction overturned because he was accused of using a gun and a search for a gun was never conducted.

Stubblefield was convicted in July 2020 of raping a woman who was allegedly at his home to interview for a babysitting job in 2015. She claimed he threatened her with a gun, but police never searched for it. Prosecutors claimed the reason a search was never done had partly to do with Stubblefield being a famous Black man on trial during the George Floyd protests.

“The use of a firearm was centerpiece to Mr. Stubblefield’s conviction in this case, and yet the police never searched his home to see whether he even had a firearm,” legal analyst Steven Clark said.

Stubblefield was originally sentenced to 15 years to life in prison.


Read in NBC Bay Area: https://apple.news/Apmiz_Kg8Tsm77dLX20tDpA


Not a ton of info on the decision there, and I'd be very interested to read more. I suppose the statements about the motivations for not searching have a racial element, but I don't see that the failure to execute the warrant would have been a compelling factor in the case. Certainly if they found a gun it would be bad for Stubblefield, but I don't know that the absence of a gun would have been good for him. Criminals dispose of incriminating evidence all the time. Presumably the jury heard that they never found a gun - or at least never heard evidence that they did.

Will be interesting to see how this one shakes out. I've got to imagine they'll retry him if at all possible.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#723 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:14 pm

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Maybe you can argue Shanahan doesn't need to reinvent himself but he definitely needs to figure out our execution issues.

I know we're fielding a lot of backups right now but I still think this team makes way too many mental mistakes on both sides of the ball.


One thing that has been pretty glaring this year is that we don't appear to be designing our offense or defense to put our players in the best position. The two best specific examples I can think of both come from the defensive side of the ball.

Campbell was fine playing the run, and okay in zone coverage, but an absolute liability in man coverage. But we just kept trotting him out there and asking him to cover TEs on third downs, and it bit us repeatedly. But we never really went away from it. Similarly, we kept putting Brown in single-high looks that he clearly couldn't execute. It kept going badly.

Now, in those cases, both of those players were replaced when the "starters" came back (and they were arguably getting phased out even before that). So clearly the coaching staff was aware of the problems. The issue for me is that those issues were clear and glaring for ages, and we didn't really try to adjust. Instead of trying to support the players we had, we just kept kind of hoping they'd turn into the guys we wanted.

The offense has similar problems, especially with the interior OL on obvious passing situations. This was a gripe of mine last year. Purdy likes going empty and being able to survey the field. But our interior OL just cannot stand up to an all-out pass rush. Without some threat of the run, our guys just get obliterated.

I'm not about to defend Brendel. He's been SOOOOO bad this year. He's arguably been the single biggest on-field issue with this team, and there's no indication they have ever contemplated giving Zakelj or Nugent any snaps. But if you have Brendel at center, you just can't go empty on third down and anything under like 9 yards. You need to give those DLs (and LBs against the blitzing teams that absolutely destroy us) something to think about. But we don't. We go empty, we get blitzed, Purdy throws hot, and it's either incomplete or complete short of the sticks.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#724 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:01 pm

Another thing that has made me pretty crazy this year is some of the roster choices at the start of the year. There were several decisions that I (and others) questioned at the time that have really come to realization.

We inexplicably kept Thomas on the roster, moved him to IR, and then cut him. In doing so, we cut Samuel Womack, who was at worst a good backup CB and an elite STs player. Fast forward a few months and Womack is the third CB in Indy with a 72.6 PFF grade, and we can't cover a kick to save our lives. Theoretically we still cut Womack, but it sure seems we should have kept the young guy over Ya-Sin, who has been a total non-factor.

We kept Zakelj around at the expense of rookie Jarrett Kingston. Then we never even tried Zakelj at the center spot despite Brendel's struggles (understatement of the year), suggesting the coaches think he's even worse. Zakelj only finally saw the field when Banks and Bartch and Williams all went down.

We kept Patrick Taylor over promising rookie Cody Schrader. Like Zakelj, we never played Taylor until we had no choice, and then he was downright bad. I guess you could argue we kept him for STs purposes, but then how did Womack get cut from this roster?

Anyway, one of the areas where this team really needs to improve is evaluating their own talent. Get some of these old, struggling players out of there and give the young guys a shot.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#725 » by WentzerWuver » Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:33 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
wco81 wrote:Former 49ers Dana Stubblefield has a rape conviction overturned because he was accused of using a gun and a search for a gun was never conducted.

Stubblefield was convicted in July 2020 of raping a woman who was allegedly at his home to interview for a babysitting job in 2015. She claimed he threatened her with a gun, but police never searched for it. Prosecutors claimed the reason a search was never done had partly to do with Stubblefield being a famous Black man on trial during the George Floyd protests.

“The use of a firearm was centerpiece to Mr. Stubblefield’s conviction in this case, and yet the police never searched his home to see whether he even had a firearm,” legal analyst Steven Clark said.

Stubblefield was originally sentenced to 15 years to life in prison.


Read in NBC Bay Area: https://apple.news/Apmiz_Kg8Tsm77dLX20tDpA


Not a ton of info on the decision there, and I'd be very interested to read more. I suppose the statements about the motivations for not searching have a racial element, but I don't see that the failure to execute the warrant would have been a compelling factor in the case. Certainly if they found a gun it would be bad for Stubblefield, but I don't know that the absence of a gun would have been good for him. Criminals dispose of incriminating evidence all the time. Presumably the jury heard that they never found a gun - or at least never heard evidence that they did.

Will be interesting to see how this one shakes out. I've got to imagine they'll retry him if at all possible.
They were biased against Dana which is why the charge was overturned. Ray Ray was charged with murder as the vic's blood was in his car but not on this suit nor on the weapon, so that was why he was acquitted. And we already know what happened with OJ. If the glove don't fit, you must aquit.

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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#726 » by Pattersonca65 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:12 am

Mckivitz is hurt and may not play this weekend. Down to two starters on the oline and the one is one of the worst in the league. Season from hell continues.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#727 » by zman1 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:20 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Another thing that has made me pretty crazy this year is some of the roster choices at the start of the year. There were several decisions that I (and others) questioned at the time that have really come to realization.

We inexplicably kept Thomas on the roster, moved him to IR, and then cut him. In doing so, we cut Samuel Womack, who was at worst a good backup CB and an elite STs player. Fast forward a few months and Womack is the third CB in Indy with a 72.6 PFF grade, and we can't cover a kick to save our lives. Theoretically we still cut Womack, but it sure seems we should have kept the young guy over Ya-Sin, who has been a total non-factor.

We kept Zakelj around at the expense of rookie Jarrett Kingston. Then we never even tried Zakelj at the center spot despite Brendel's struggles (understatement of the year), suggesting the coaches think he's even worse. Zakelj only finally saw the field when Banks and Bartch and Williams all went down.

We kept Patrick Taylor over promising rookie Cody Schrader. Like Zakelj, we never played Taylor until we had no choice, and then he was downright bad. I guess you could argue we kept him for STs purposes, but then how did Womack get cut from this roster?

Anyway, one of the areas where this team really needs to improve is evaluating their own talent. Get some of these old, struggling players out of there and give the young guys a shot.
It seems to me that Kyle is just so into his intricate offense that must be run to precision that he can't trust rookies. How can a guy like Conley get snaps every game and he has one single catch the entire season. Cowing would at least cause some concern to the defense with his speed. Would love to see him on a jet sweep or bubble screen too.

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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#728 » by WentzerWuver » Sat Dec 28, 2024 7:51 pm

zman1 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Another thing that has made me pretty crazy this year is some of the roster choices at the start of the year. There were several decisions that I (and others) questioned at the time that have really come to realization.

We inexplicably kept Thomas on the roster, moved him to IR, and then cut him. In doing so, we cut Samuel Womack, who was at worst a good backup CB and an elite STs player. Fast forward a few months and Womack is the third CB in Indy with a 72.6 PFF grade, and we can't cover a kick to save our lives. Theoretically we still cut Womack, but it sure seems we should have kept the young guy over Ya-Sin, who has been a total non-factor.

We kept Zakelj around at the expense of rookie Jarrett Kingston. Then we never even tried Zakelj at the center spot despite Brendel's struggles (understatement of the year), suggesting the coaches think he's even worse. Zakelj only finally saw the field when Banks and Bartch and Williams all went down.

We kept Patrick Taylor over promising rookie Cody Schrader. Like Zakelj, we never played Taylor until we had no choice, and then he was downright bad. I guess you could argue we kept him for STs purposes, but then how did Womack get cut from this roster?

Anyway, one of the areas where this team really needs to improve is evaluating their own talent. Get some of these old, struggling players out of there and give the young guys a shot.
It seems to me that Kyle is just so into his intricate offense that must be run to precision that he can't trust rookies. How can a guy like Conley get snaps every game and he has one single catch the entire season. Cowing would at least cause some concern to the defense with his speed. Would love to see him on a jet sweep or bubble screen too.

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The problem is not Kyle but Purdy for not targeting them. He has been known to play favorites based on trust, but that applies to many QB. There are some who will pass to anyone truly open. Maybe Purdy is thinking about getting Dak's bag and wants to make every pass count. I'm sure you do the same.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401671818#home
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#729 » by CrimsonCrew » Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:41 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
zman1 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Another thing that has made me pretty crazy this year is some of the roster choices at the start of the year. There were several decisions that I (and others) questioned at the time that have really come to realization.

We inexplicably kept Thomas on the roster, moved him to IR, and then cut him. In doing so, we cut Samuel Womack, who was at worst a good backup CB and an elite STs player. Fast forward a few months and Womack is the third CB in Indy with a 72.6 PFF grade, and we can't cover a kick to save our lives. Theoretically we still cut Womack, but it sure seems we should have kept the young guy over Ya-Sin, who has been a total non-factor.

We kept Zakelj around at the expense of rookie Jarrett Kingston. Then we never even tried Zakelj at the center spot despite Brendel's struggles (understatement of the year), suggesting the coaches think he's even worse. Zakelj only finally saw the field when Banks and Bartch and Williams all went down.

We kept Patrick Taylor over promising rookie Cody Schrader. Like Zakelj, we never played Taylor until we had no choice, and then he was downright bad. I guess you could argue we kept him for STs purposes, but then how did Womack get cut from this roster?

Anyway, one of the areas where this team really needs to improve is evaluating their own talent. Get some of these old, struggling players out of there and give the young guys a shot.
It seems to me that Kyle is just so into his intricate offense that must be run to precision that he can't trust rookies. How can a guy like Conley get snaps every game and he has one single catch the entire season. Cowing would at least cause some concern to the defense with his speed. Would love to see him on a jet sweep or bubble screen too.

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The problem is not Kyle but Purdy for not targeting them. He has been known to play favorites based on trust, but that applies to many QB. There are some who will pass to anyone truly open. Maybe Purdy is thinking about getting Dak's bag and wants to make every pass count. I'm sure you do the same.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401671818#home


That's arguably true of Pearsall, but Cowing has barely played. According to a fantasy website, since the KC game in which he showed some big play potential, he has only run 15 routes. Five of those came in the Miami game. I'm not entirely confident in that source, but it sounds consistent with what I've observed. That's not enough for an offender that is struggling to open things up.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#730 » by Pattersonca65 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 6:52 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
zman1 wrote:It seems to me that Kyle is just so into his intricate offense that must be run to precision that he can't trust rookies. How can a guy like Conley get snaps every game and he has one single catch the entire season. Cowing would at least cause some concern to the defense with his speed. Would love to see him on a jet sweep or bubble screen too.

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The problem is not Kyle but Purdy for not targeting them. He has been known to play favorites based on trust, but that applies to many QB. There are some who will pass to anyone truly open. Maybe Purdy is thinking about getting Dak's bag and wants to make every pass count. I'm sure you do the same.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401671818#home


That's arguably true of Pearsall, but Cowing has barely played. According to a fantasy website, since the KC game in which he showed some big play potential, he has only run 15 routes. Five of those came in the Miami game. I'm not entirely confident in that source, but it sounds consistent with what I've observed. That's not enough for an offender that is struggling to open things up.


Earlier in the season Shanahan basically said Cowling isnt playing more because he is still trying to grasp the offense. Lets just hope this isnt another Danny Gray situation.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#731 » by Big J » Sun Dec 29, 2024 7:36 pm

Pearsol is so mid. No idea why we drafted such a low ceiling receiver what that high of a pick.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#732 » by WentzerWuver » Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:02 pm

Big J wrote:Pearsol is so mid. No idea why we drafted such a low ceiling receiver what that high of a pick.
Cause he was a friend of BA, so they hoped drafting Pearsall would facilitate a home town discount on an extension. Frazier would have been my first choice instead.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/san-francisco-49ers-2024-nfl-mock-draft-february/

This guy did a much better mock on the 49ers needs than their current GM. They should hire him to replace Lynch, who pushed for Lance where Kyle finally relented on another QB.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/151440-shanahan-right-about-jones-passing-affect-these-niners/
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#733 » by wco81 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:16 pm

Haven’t looked it up but the Jets haven’t played well since Ulbrich took over, especially their defense.

Not sure Ulbrich will improve the 49ers defense if he became DC here. No pass rush unless Bosa wins, which isn’t often enough to make the unit a top playoffs defense let alone a championship level one.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#734 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 1, 2025 1:57 am

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This is an insane stat. Special teams losing you 3.4 points per game is absurdly terrible. With that kind of performance, SF is expectedly dead last in the NFL by a massive margin.

This is thoroughly unacceptable. If Kyle runs it back with Schneider again, his seat should be doused with gasoline and have Jed on standby with a match in hand.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#735 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Jan 1, 2025 2:26 am

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This is an insane stat. Special teams losing you 3.4 points per game is absurdly terrible. With that kind of performance, SF is expectedly dead last in the NFL by a massive margin.

This is thoroughly unacceptable. If Kyle runs it back with Schneider again, his seat should be doused with gasoline and have Jed on standby with a match in hand.

You have been gone for a bit. Glad you are back. I think the 49ers special teams are among the worst in the league
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#736 » by Samurai » Thu Jan 2, 2025 7:52 pm

Big J wrote:Pearsol is so mid. No idea why we drafted such a low ceiling receiver what that high of a pick.

I have no idea how good Pearsall can be and obviously missing a chunk of games to begin the year due to a shooting will hamper any rookie's development. But we should at least call out both sides of the issue and note that he did have our third highest offensive grade (78.4) behind only Kittle (an absolute stud again at 93.2) and Purdy (80.2). He caught 8 of 10 targets for 141 yards and 7 of those 8 catches went for a first down or touchdown. And 37 of his 141 yards came after the catch. Nobody is calling the guy a pro bowl receiver but it is at least encouraging to see that he can produce that type of game. I'm at least curious to see what he can do next year with a full off-season under his belt.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#737 » by Big J » Thu Jan 2, 2025 8:48 pm

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Big J wrote:Pearsol is so mid. No idea why we drafted such a low ceiling receiver what that high of a pick.

I have no idea how good Pearsall can be and obviously missing a chunk of games to begin the year due to a shooting will hamper any rookie's development. But we should at least call out both sides of the issue and note that he did have our third highest offensive grade (78.4) behind only Kittle (an absolute stud again at 93.2) and Purdy (80.2). He caught 8 of 10 targets for 141 yards and 7 of those 8 catches went for a first down or touchdown. And 37 of his 141 yards came after the catch. Nobody is calling the guy a pro bowl receiver but it is at least encouraging to see that he can produce that type of game. I'm at least curious to see what he can do next year with a full off-season under his belt.


It did come against the Lions turrible secondary though. Not as impressive as it looks on paper.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#738 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Jan 2, 2025 9:24 pm

Big J wrote:
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Big J wrote:Pearsol is so mid. No idea why we drafted such a low ceiling receiver what that high of a pick.

I have no idea how good Pearsall can be and obviously missing a chunk of games to begin the year due to a shooting will hamper any rookie's development. But we should at least call out both sides of the issue and note that he did have our third highest offensive grade (78.4) behind only Kittle (an absolute stud again at 93.2) and Purdy (80.2). He caught 8 of 10 targets for 141 yards and 7 of those 8 catches went for a first down or touchdown. And 37 of his 141 yards came after the catch. Nobody is calling the guy a pro bowl receiver but it is at least encouraging to see that he can produce that type of game. I'm at least curious to see what he can do next year with a full off-season under his belt.


It did come against the Lions turrible secondary though. Not as impressive as it looks on paper.


As said above, there is some truth to that, but he also beat some good players in Branch and Arnold (Arnold hasn't been great this year, but he is a highly regarded rookie). It was a promising showing and a good outing to build some confidence, but of course it doesn't mean he's going to be a true #1 receiver in the league. Richie James had one great game in this system.

That said, we finally saw production from what the film had shown previously: that this is a guy who can get open against NFL corners. And we went to him against man coverage instead of trying to force the ball to Deebo. I'm not certain what Pearsall's upside is. Despite elite measurables (good straight-line speed, and really good jumping and change of direction), he doesn't really play that way. But he has excellent short-area quickness, runs good routes, and has good hands. I think he can be a very good player for this offense, especially once he and Purdy (assuming he's the QB) get on the same page with an offseason to work together. For now, that's all that really matters.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#739 » by Samurai » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:16 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
Samurai wrote:I have no idea how good Pearsall can be and obviously missing a chunk of games to begin the year due to a shooting will hamper any rookie's development. But we should at least call out both sides of the issue and note that he did have our third highest offensive grade (78.4) behind only Kittle (an absolute stud again at 93.2) and Purdy (80.2). He caught 8 of 10 targets for 141 yards and 7 of those 8 catches went for a first down or touchdown. And 37 of his 141 yards came after the catch. Nobody is calling the guy a pro bowl receiver but it is at least encouraging to see that he can produce that type of game. I'm at least curious to see what he can do next year with a full off-season under his belt.


It did come against the Lions turrible secondary though. Not as impressive as it looks on paper.


As said above, there is some truth to that, but he also beat some good players in Branch and Arnold (Arnold hasn't been great this year, but he is a highly regarded rookie). It was a promising showing and a good outing to build some confidence, but of course it doesn't mean he's going to be a true #1 receiver in the league. Richie James had one great game in this system.

That said, we finally saw production from what the film had shown previously: that this is a guy who can get open against NFL corners. And we went to him against man coverage instead of trying to force the ball to Deebo. I'm not certain what Pearsall's upside is. Despite elite measurables (good straight-line speed, and really good jumping and change of direction), he doesn't really play that way. But he has excellent short-area quickness, runs good routes, and has good hands. I think he can be a very good player for this offense, especially once he and Purdy (assuming he's the QB) get on the same page with an offseason to work together. For now, that's all that really matters.

For me, the thing that was most encouraging was that he has been touted since the draft that he can run the entire route tree. That's great, but I haven't seen that guy. This game was the first time this season that he showed me he was getting open on a wide range of routes. To me, that is encouraging.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#740 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:40 pm

Yahoo Fantasy Football came out with their annual awards yesterday. Shanahan won an award. Kind of funny,

Liar, Liar Award: Kyle Shanahan
Liar, Liar Award: Kyle Shanahan
Never a doubt. Kyle had this one locked up in September.

Let’s please never forget that Christian McCaffrey was looking good to play in opening week according to Kyle. A few days later, CMC was on injured reserve. And a few weeks after that, McCaffrey was on a flight to Germany, seeking exotic calf treatments.

A little less dishonesty would have gone a long way, particularly for anyone who landed the No. 1 pick in their draft. Even by the usual standards of NFL head coaches, Shanahan was an exceptional source of misinformation. — Behrens

Honorable mention: Nope, no one is close

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