PG Bulls- Ugly Loss

[stellation]

So you think he is going to give it up to Cam?

Cam who?

Camus

Is there a Stranger guy on the roster?

[Plossum]

Incredible how we go out and acquire one of the most clutch half court players in the history of basketball only to have him dawdle off-ball in the final minutes of games like this.

Dude was coming off a pretty serious illness from sounds of it. I will play optimist and give him a pass for this game.

[soboMP3]

Caught the last 4 minutes at the bar at Ballistreris on Bluemound with my wife (after a wonderful dinner as usual) and it was just everything you’d expect. Middleton dribbling into trouble and losing it, iso ball nightmares… that has to be on coaching. Still not ready to write off Doc just yet but come on. These last few losses over the last 2-3 minute collapses have to be mostly coaching. Ugh.

[MickeyDavis]

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[Daver]

Brook taking 22 shots is…uh, something?

Lol maybe if our starting SG could um fu.... shoot or better yet score maybe brooks wouldnt have to shoot 21xs as you say

[yannisk]

Did not watch the game but looking at the box score Middleton was 8/15 21 points so it does not look bad

on the other hand
Portis 5/17 for 14 points, Brook 22 shots for 22 points, AJJ 1 rebound and 1 assist in 23 minutes.

[fansinceforever]

Above avg-good teams without their best player will lose these games. Not much else to take from this.

[Sigra]

Just finished watching. The Bulls played as good as they can play. The Bucks that played gave maybe 50% effort. And offcourse Giannis didnt play.

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[Packbuckman]

Brook taking 22 shots is…uh, something?

Lol maybe if our starting SG could um fu.... shoot or better yet score maybe brooks wouldnt have to shoot 21xs as you say

Ya without Giannis in the lineup Ajax willingness not to shot is magnified especially with Portis shot being off. I still like him in the starting lineup when our team is a full strength. Dame Ajax midds Giannis Lopez starting 5 you don’t need him to shoot much.
Really liked how Rollins played last nite his defense was really good he’s a quicker player to guard those players like Lavine.

[ejn1214]

Doc is a horrible coach. I don't want to hear anything about how he's fueling success, when we actually have it.

He sparked a big run for Chicago at the beginning of the 4th by not having any offensive engines on the court. In the 1st half there was a stretch w/ just Bobby. No reason he can't take out Khris/Dame early then bring them back for the other. Last game it was the Delon minutes & icing Ajax. Plus he doesn't challenge when Khris was livid and correct. We went full iso down the stretch.

We need to overcome him as an albatross. We're either going to be able to do it, or we aren't.

This may be a very stupid question, but is there an assistant coach that handles substitutions in game and is the rotation for each game discussed and generally known by the coaches coming into the game with specific times. For example, do they have it mapped out when people are subbing in and maybe written down with times? Obviously Doc could make any in game changes, but I was sitting pretty close the other day and noticed a couple things.

For sure, a couple players just got off the bench and came in without anyone saying anything or any sign that I could see. I'm assuming some vets have their set rotation and know when to come in without needing to be told (Middleton on minutes limit especially)? I wasn't staring at the bench the whole game, but I never saw Doc motion to the bench or get anyone to come in the game. Does anyone know how this works? I guess I just never paid attention to this.

[msiris]

Did not watch the game but looking at the box score Middleton was 8/15 21 points so it does not look bad

on the other hand
Portis 5/17 for 14 points, Brook 22 shots for 22 points, AJJ 1 rebound and 1 assist in 23 minutes.

Box score means nothing unless your playing fantasy basketball.

[Bernman]

Did not watch the game but looking at the box score Middleton was 8/15 21 points so it does not look bad

on the other hand
Portis 5/17 for 14 points, Brook 22 shots for 22 points, AJJ 1 rebound and 1 assist in 23 minutes.

Box score means nothing unless your playing fantasy basketball.

So you could shoot 8/15, 4-6 from 3, & have a 2:1 ast/to ratio in an average NBA game?

Obviously it means plenty. It's relative and those things contribute to whether you win or not.

[dbrodz7]

Middleton is a role player now.

In the games where he has accepted that fact he has been a positive.

In the games where he thinks he's the same guy he was in 2021 he has sabotaged us.

What he's supposed to take 5 shots in games where Giannis and Dame aren't playing?

[Bernman]

This may be a very stupid question, but is there an assistant coach that handles substitutions in game and is the rotation for each game discussed and generally known by the coaches coming into the game with specific times. For example, do they have it mapped out when people are subbing in and maybe written down with times? Obviously Doc could make any in game changes, but I was sitting pretty close the other day and noticed a couple things.

For sure, a couple players just got off the bench and came in without anyone saying anything or any sign that I could see. I'm assuming some vets have their set rotation and know when to come in without needing to be told (Middleton on minutes limit especially)? I wasn't staring at the bench the whole game, but I never saw Doc motion to the bench or get anyone to come in the game. Does anyone know how this works? I guess I just never paid attention to this.

I think they have an initial schedule but in this one it was daft not having Dame's & Khris' minutes staggered. And then Doc has trouble breaking far from the initial gameplan. For example, he plays Brook whether he can match up or not.

As for assistants, you'd think one of the many w/ pedigree would have the capability and/or empowerment to assist him in this regard. But apparently they don't.

[msiris]

Did not watch the game but looking at the box score Middleton was 8/15 21 points so it does not look bad

on the other hand
Portis 5/17 for 14 points, Brook 22 shots for 22 points, AJJ 1 rebound and 1 assist in 23 minutes.

Box score means nothing unless your playing fantasy basketball.

So you could shoot 8/15, 4-6 from 3, & have a 2:1 ast/to ratio in an average NBA game?

Obviously it means plenty. It's relative and those things contribute to whether you win or not.

Winning should be the only thing that mattes. Make millions then lose then pat them on the back and tell them good job.

[Bernman]

Winning should be the only thing that mattes. Make millions then lose then pat them on the back and tell them good job.

That's a team thing & obviously not having your best player, your 2nd best coming back after a layoff, & almost every role player sucking, plays into a loss in a mid-level difficulty match. Doesn't mean an individual core player sucked. Quite the opposite. Multiple had to play well to even be in position to win at the end. One would be Khris.

[RogerMurdock]

Didn't watch. Was at a holiday party.

[ShootingtheJ]

Winning should be the only thing that mattes. Make millions then lose then pat them on the back and tell them good job.

That's a team thing & obviously not having your best player, your 2nd best coming back after a layoff, & almost every role player sucking, plays into a loss in a mid-level difficulty match. Doesn't mean an individual core player sucked. Quite the opposite. Multiple had to play well to even be in position to win at the end. One would be Khris.

Yup, Khris is 1 of just 2 positives from this game. The disappointment is that 2 games ago it looked like we were building some depth, and were close to have a playoff rotation. The last 2 games are erasing that hope.

[msiris]

Winning should be the only thing that mattes. Make millions then lose then pat them on the back and tell them good job.

That's a team thing & obviously not having your best player, your 2nd best coming back after a layoff, & almost every role player sucking, plays into a loss in a mid-level difficulty match. Doesn't mean an individual core player sucked. Quite the opposite. Multiple had to play well to even be in position to win at the end. One would be Khris.

Thats why I dont see no chip this year. Injuries will always be this teams excuse like the last 2 or 3 years.

[paulpressey25]

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Giddey just turned 22. If he ever decided to exert himself heavily on defense he’d be a borderline all star.

Fully recognize he plays D like Charlie Villanueva did. That’s the whole problem right there. Otherwise offensively he’s like Kukoc.