Wembanyama vs. Tatum: Who would you rather have for the 2024-25 season?

[ITYSL]

It's irrelevant that you think that it's a defensible position. A lot of people think that a lot of ridiculous positions are defensible. It has no bearing on my point, which is that if someone disagrees with an opinion strongly enough, that's pretty much the same as them thinking that opinion is silly or ridiculous.

Anyway, this is just a silly (yes, silly) semantics argument at this point and not worth pursuing further.

No, I mean. The idea of supporting Wemby over Tatum isn't silly. That position is objectively false. There are a variety of ways to prove that. It isn't wrong to support a pro-Tatum angle, but to be so dismissive of the Wemby position as to call it silly is disingenuous and inaccurate.

So you don't even know what I was calling ridiculous/silly. Got it.

[Edrees]

There should not be any doubt in anybody's mind now. Wemby > Tatum and the gap will continue to increase that in 2 years this thread will look like an insult to Wemby.

Your reading comprehension is an insult to the rest of us. This vote was this season only. Not two years from now.

[bronxknicksfan1]

There should not be any doubt in anybody's mind now. Wemby > Tatum and the gap will continue to increase that in 2 years this thread will look like an insult to Wemby.

Your reading comprehension is an insult to the rest of us. This vote was this season only. Not two years from now.

Even this season, Wemby has already surpassed Tatum

[Johnny Firpo]

I'd still take Tatum for this year, but it's probably the last time. But it could be the last time where we take Jokic, SGA, Luka over him too, so I might have not said much with that statement.

[Eightnineborn]

Lmao, im a celtics hater and don’t like the dull persona of Tatum, but wow, yall R really tripping…

[EmpireFalls]

Wembanyama

[The Master]

The poll results were pretty much in line with Tatum 2024 level and projection of generational talent (Wemby) in his 2nd year.

What's interesting about this comparison is a fact that while Wemby has already reached 'expected' level (~top5 player in the rS) - stats-wise, Tatum has been so far playing the best basketball of his career:

2025: 28.7 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 5.6 APG, 61.0 TS%, 10.5 TOV%, +7.3 BPM with +8.1 on/off on +9 SRS team
2024: 26.9 PPG, 8.1 RPG, 4.9 APG, 60.4 TS%, 10.3 TOV%, +5.1 BPM with -1.2 on/off on +11 SRS team

For me, it's a 50/50 comparison for now (especially considering how fantastic fit Wemby would've been for a stacked team like Celtics) if Tatum can maintain current level. He basically improved overall volume without losing any efficiency, that's impressive.

[Blame Rasho]

Huh? Yeah it is.

No, it really isn't.

If I disagree strongly enough with the vote being 3:1 in favor of Wemby, then it is the same as me having the opinion that the vote being 3:1 in favor of Wemby is "silly" or, as I said in a previous post, "ridiculous."

But that's the thing, it isn't. It is a defensible position. You can disagree with it, and you can disagree with it strongly, but it really isn't "ridiculous" at all.

It's irrelevant that you think that it's a defensible position. A lot of people think that a lot of ridiculous positions are defensible. It has no bearing on my point, which is that if someone disagrees with an opinion strongly enough, that's pretty much the same as them thinking that opinion is silly or ridiculous.

Anyway, this is just a silly (yes, silly) semantics argument at this point and not worth pursuing further.

It doesn’t matter what you think…

Too early for me to find the Rock gif…

You are the one with this issue, not anyone else.

I think it is silly and ridiculous that you are irked about a poll that doesn’t pander what you think…

[Lalouie]

if I'm a legit top4 or 5 contender and I have ONLY next year I don't think I want to babysit a 20yr old who is physically and mentally not mature.

wemby has stated he doesn't want to be boxed in, meaning pigeon-holed I assume. that means he's still being weaned and sukked up to. it ALSO means he's stereotypically youthful and hardheaded

I don't want this for my 1yr window. I want a fully matured star who knows who he is and how to win

right now wemby is a really tall poorman's KD, but i'll take his D
taking wemby for a year means the reconstruction of a ring team - has anyone not learned anything yet about how that doesn't work? is wemby going to do something that lebron@miami and lillard@bucks didn't do in one year. this is just ONE year

i don't think so

[Rust_Cohle]

Wemby all day everyday. The Celtics would near 70 wins with wemby instead of Tatum. Wemby surrounded by other great defenders on the perimeter and tons of shooters? That would be filthy

[Optms]

He's not even the best player in the league (yet), but give me Wemby over anyone, idgaf. That two way potential is a game changer.

[ryan in Maine]

Porzingis | Wembanyama | Horford
Brown | White | Holiday | Pritchard

I voted Tatum but sign me up.

I would have big expectations for Wembanyama as a passer though. Tatum has come a long way in that regard and in his ability to see the whole court, and i don't view it as an easily replaceable skill on our roster.

[bisme37]

I think this is my first time clicking on this thread but I'm still trying to figure out why every fanbase that's excited about their best player wants to make the argument that he's better than Jayson Tatum lol. This has to be the 75th thread about such a thing lol.

[scrabbarista]

Taking a
Tatum
VORP:
Tatum - 2.4
Wemby - 2.1


Bbref
Tatum - 10
Wemby - 1,000

If we go off of these, we see that Wemby clearly separates himself all time, while Tatum's hype is so pedestrian hould any thread discussing whether any player is better than Wemby. How could it even be a question. Just look

[Lalouie]

The poll results were pretty much in line with Tatum 2024 level and projection of generational talent (Wemby) in his 2nd year.

What's interesting about this comparison is a fact that while Wemby has already reached 'expected' level (~top5 player in the rS) - stats-wise, Tatum has been so far playing the best basketball of his career:

2025: 28.7 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 5.6 APG, 61.0 TS%, 10.5 TOV%, +7.3 BPM with +8.1 on/off on +9 SRS team
2024: 26.9 PPG, 8.1 RPG, 4.9 APG, 60.4 TS%, 10.3 TOV%, +5.1 BPM with -1.2 on/off on +11 SRS team

For me, it's a 50/50 comparison for now (especially considering how fantastic fit Wemby would've been for a stacked team like Celtics) if Tatum can maintain current level. He basically improved overall volume without losing any efficiency, that's impressive.

there's two assumptions here. THIS implies a foreseeable future. an assumption of what might be based what has developed so far. while the presense of tatum already is a KNOWN

THIS assumes wemby would already have been part of the c's rotation

neither is true. it's just one year, THIS year, to fit a new player in an already set ring team while taking out an all pro who is already part of the system

if you want to imagine this year's celts with wemby, please do mazulla the courtesy of giving the c's a healthy KP

[bronxknicksfan1]

Taking a
Tatum
VORP:
Tatum - 2.4
Wemby - 2.1


Bbref
Tatum - 10
Wemby - 1,000

If we go off of these, we see that Wemby clearly separates himself all time, while Tatum's hype is so pedestrian hould any thread discussing whether any player is better than Wemby. How could it even be a question. Just look

I see you cherry picked a stat to make it seem like there aren’t plenty others to show this is actually a conversation. Most in here value a generational player/defender over a really good 2 way wing.

[scrabbarista]

Taking a
Tatum
VORP:
Tatum - 2.4
Wemby - 2.1


Bbref
Tatum - 10
Wemby - 1,000

If we go off of these, we see that Wemby clearly separates himself all time, while Tatum's hype is so pedestrian hould any thread discussing whether any player is better than Wemby. How could it even be a question. Just look

I see you cherry picked a stat to make it seem like there aren’t plenty others to show this is actually a conversation. Most in here value a generational player/defender over a really good 2 way wing.

You see nothing of the sort.

[bronxknicksfan1]

The poll results were pretty much in line with Tatum 2024 level and projection of generational talent (Wemby) in his 2nd year.

What's interesting about this comparison is a fact that while Wemby has already reached 'expected' level (~top5 player in the rS) - stats-wise, Tatum has been so far playing the best basketball of his career:

2025: 28.7 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 5.6 APG, 61.0 TS%, 10.5 TOV%, +7.3 BPM with +8.1 on/off on +9 SRS team
2024: 26.9 PPG, 8.1 RPG, 4.9 APG, 60.4 TS%, 10.3 TOV%, +5.1 BPM with -1.2 on/off on +11 SRS team

For me, it's a 50/50 comparison for now (especially considering how fantastic fit Wemby would've been for a stacked team like Celtics) if Tatum can maintain current level. He basically improved overall volume without losing any efficiency, that's impressive.

there's two assumptions here. THIS implies a foreseeable future. an assumption of what might be based what has developed so far. while the presense of tatum already is a KNOWN

THIS assumes wemby would already have been part of the c's rotation

neither is true. it's just one year, THIS year, to fit a new player in an already set ring team while taking out an all pro who is already part of the system

if you want to imagine this year's celts with wemby, please do mazulla the courtesy of giving the c's a healthy KP

There’s no way Wemby is not in the Celtics’ rotation. Even in his rookie season

[ITYSL]

No, it really isn't.



But that's the thing, it isn't. It is a defensible position. You can disagree with it, and you can disagree with it strongly, but it really isn't "ridiculous" at all.

It's irrelevant that you think that it's a defensible position. A lot of people think that a lot of ridiculous positions are defensible. It has no bearing on my point, which is that if someone disagrees with an opinion strongly enough, that's pretty much the same as them thinking that opinion is silly or ridiculous.

Anyway, this is just a silly (yes, silly) semantics argument at this point and not worth pursuing further.

It doesn’t matter what you think…

Too early for me to find the Rock gif…

You are the one with this issue, not anyone else.

I think it is silly and ridiculous that you are irked about a poll that doesn’t pander what you think…

Haha ok. Well I respect your opinion to think that, though I will say that I'm not really mad or irked by it. I'm more amused than anything.

I'm also amused that, like bisme said, Tatum is like a benchmark player for people on this board. It's practically a meme to start a thread to compare whatever player they like best to Tatum.

[tsherkin]

I'm also amused that, like bisme said, Tatum is like a benchmark player for people on this board. It's practically a meme to start a thread to compare whatever player they like best to Tatum.

I think that, from the start, you're overreacting to Tatum's inclusion in this comparison. If anything, it's complimentary to Tatum to be compared to someone as good as Wemby has been this season.