Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond

[Riot Randolph]

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[HerSports85]

Josh Green and Nick Richards for Mitch + whatever rookie they want + DET and Was FRP. throw in a few 2nds if we have to.

[Moose]

Josh Green and Nick Richards for Mitch + whatever rookie they want + DET and Was FRP. throw in a few 2nds if we have to.

We don't have the DET pick anymore. And I'm not sure the Knicks would be interested in Green and his contract. Cody Martin and Nick Richards is a trade that could work if the Knicks are okay with Martin's offensive production. He isn't much of a three-point shooter.

The Knicks could also shave some salary by trading Mitch in this deal.

P.s. I wouldn't do this trade, personally.

[spree2kawhi]

Any chance we could get Turner from Indy?

Yes - by offering OG Anunoby.

Which brings up an interesting question - if KAT is at his best offensively playing next to a floor spacer but needs to play next to a rim protector on defense does this kind of a trade make sense.

Expanding on this, can we land a quality wing the 16.7mm salary difference.

I don’t think Anunoby is a fit in Indiana, but I could see a 3 way trade working here.

An idea would be Anunoby to Sacramento, a 1st and filler from SAC to Indiana, Turner, Malik Monk and a SAC 1st to NY.

Brunson/Bridges/Hart/KAT/Turner
McBride/Monk/Shamet/Precious (Robinson)

Anyway, food for thought.

OG is irreplaceable.

[R-DAWG]

Josh Green and Nick Richards for Mitch + whatever rookie they want + DET and Was FRP. throw in a few 2nds if we have to.

We don't have the DET pick anymore. And I'm not sure the Knicks would be interested in Green and his contract. Cody Martin and Nick Richards is a trade that could work if the Knicks are okay with Martin's offensive production. He isn't much of a three-point shooter.

The Knicks could also shave some salary by trading Mitch in this deal.

P.s. I wouldn't do this trade, personally.

I don’t love Martin or Richard’s, but I see the logic in the trade. Turning Mitch into a durable backup big and backup wing under team control for next year. I would prefer Green and don’t think his contract is horrible, but it would make us a 2nd apron team next year. Given that we have McBride and Shamet in these roles, and that Green is a little undersized to play SF, it’s not worth the risk.

Ideally you would have a team that gives up value for Mitch in the form of 2nds and we keep the Was pick as our 2nd rd stash is getting depleted and most of what we have left isn’t high upside. While you can always trade into the 30’s, you need some trade chips for the next handful of years.

Back to the 2nd apron conversation, we are most likely going to need to choose between Mitch and Precious next summer. We sit a little less than 9mm (8,969,038) below the 2nd apron next year with 10 guys under contract - KAt, OG, Brunson, Bridges, Hart, Mitch, McBride, Pacome, Kolek, and Hukporti. Hukporti is a team option who can likely be replaced with a purchased 2nd rd pick to save 750k. So the idea of a Mitch for Richard’s swap, which frees up 7.95mm below the apron, is worth considering. But remember, the best version of Mitch is a far superior player than Richards.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Josh Green and Nick Richards for Mitch + whatever rookie they want + DET and Was FRP. throw in a few 2nds if we have to.

We don't have the DET pick anymore. And I'm not sure the Knicks would be interested in Green and his contract. Cody Martin and Nick Richards is a trade that could work if the Knicks are okay with Martin's offensive production. He isn't much of a three-point shooter.

The Knicks could also shave some salary by trading Mitch in this deal.

P.s. I wouldn't do this trade, personally.

I don’t love Martin or Richard’s, but I see the logic in the trade. Turning Mitch into a durable backup big and backup wing under team control for next year. I would prefer Green and don’t think his contract is horrible, but it would make us a 2nd apron team next year. Given that we have McBride and Shamet in these roles, and that Green is a little undersized to play SF, it’s not worth the risk.

Ideally you would have a team that gives up value for Mitch in the form of 2nds and we keep the Was pick as our 2nd rd stash is getting depleted and most of what we have left isn’t high upside. While you can always trade into the 30’s, you need some trade chips for the next handful of years.

Back to the 2nd apron conversation, we are most likely going to need to choose between Mitch and Precious next summer. We sit a little less than 9mm (8,969,038) below the 2nd apron next year with 10 guys under contract - KAt, OG, Brunson, Bridges, Hart, Mitch, McBride, Pacome, Kolek, and Hukporti. Hukporti is a team option who can likely be replaced with a purchased 2nd rd pick to save 750k. So the idea of a Mitch for Richard’s swap, which frees up 7.95mm below the apron, is worth considering. But remember, the best version of Mitch is a far superior player than Richards.

I believe I read we will be 13mil under the 2nd Apron next year with 10 players signed. I think they will try to avoid the apron one more season to avoid the pick freeze that will happen before the core is off the books. With Mikal due an extension in the future this all gets a little tricky.

As for the trade, I think the team will keep Mitch the rest of the year and trade him next summer.

[KnicksGadfly]

Didn’t Nick Richards just get injured recently? Or is he back now?

[Moose]

We don't have the DET pick anymore. And I'm not sure the Knicks would be interested in Green and his contract. Cody Martin and Nick Richards is a trade that could work if the Knicks are okay with Martin's offensive production. He isn't much of a three-point shooter.

The Knicks could also shave some salary by trading Mitch in this deal.

P.s. I wouldn't do this trade, personally.

I don’t love Martin or Richard’s, but I see the logic in the trade. Turning Mitch into a durable backup big and backup wing under team control for next year. I would prefer Green and don’t think his contract is horrible, but it would make us a 2nd apron team next year. Given that we have McBride and Shamet in these roles, and that Green is a little undersized to play SF, it’s not worth the risk.

Ideally you would have a team that gives up value for Mitch in the form of 2nds and we keep the Was pick as our 2nd rd stash is getting depleted and most of what we have left isn’t high upside. While you can always trade into the 30’s, you need some trade chips for the next handful of years.

Back to the 2nd apron conversation, we are most likely going to need to choose between Mitch and Precious next summer. We sit a little less than 9mm (8,969,038) below the 2nd apron next year with 10 guys under contract - KAt, OG, Brunson, Bridges, Hart, Mitch, McBride, Pacome, Kolek, and Hukporti. Hukporti is a team option who can likely be replaced with a purchased 2nd rd pick to save 750k. So the idea of a Mitch for Richard’s swap, which frees up 7.95mm below the apron, is worth considering. But remember, the best version of Mitch is a far superior player than Richards.

I believe I read we will be 13mil under the 2nd Apron next year with 10 players signed. I think they will try to avoid the apron one more season to avoid the pick freeze that will happen before the core is off the books. With Mikal due an extension in the future this all gets a little tricky.

As for the trade, I think the team will keep Mitch the rest of the year and trade him next summer.

I'm not sure what the plan is, but we'll eventually have to plan a future without Mitch.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I don’t love Martin or Richard’s, but I see the logic in the trade. Turning Mitch into a durable backup big and backup wing under team control for next year. I would prefer Green and don’t think his contract is horrible, but it would make us a 2nd apron team next year. Given that we have McBride and Shamet in these roles, and that Green is a little undersized to play SF, it’s not worth the risk.

Ideally you would have a team that gives up value for Mitch in the form of 2nds and we keep the Was pick as our 2nd rd stash is getting depleted and most of what we have left isn’t high upside. While you can always trade into the 30’s, you need some trade chips for the next handful of years.

Back to the 2nd apron conversation, we are most likely going to need to choose between Mitch and Precious next summer. We sit a little less than 9mm (8,969,038) below the 2nd apron next year with 10 guys under contract - KAt, OG, Brunson, Bridges, Hart, Mitch, McBride, Pacome, Kolek, and Hukporti. Hukporti is a team option who can likely be replaced with a purchased 2nd rd pick to save 750k. So the idea of a Mitch for Richard’s swap, which frees up 7.95mm below the apron, is worth considering. But remember, the best version of Mitch is a far superior player than Richards.

I believe I read we will be 13mil under the 2nd Apron next year with 10 players signed. I think they will try to avoid the apron one more season to avoid the pick freeze that will happen before the core is off the books. With Mikal due an extension in the future this all gets a little tricky.

As for the trade, I think the team will keep Mitch the rest of the year and trade him next summer.

I'm not sure what the plan is, but we'll eventually have to plan a future without Mitch.

I will assume it's going to involve avoiding the second apron one more year. Mitch is a valuable salary slot heading into the summer. He's also a very good player when healthy. I think they will take the risk at least this season but, Leon comes out of nowhere with trades.

[R-DAWG]

I believe I read we will be 13mil under the 2nd Apron next year with 10 players signed. I think they will try to avoid the apron one more season to avoid the pick freeze that will happen before the core is off the books. With Mikal due an extension in the future this all gets a little tricky.

As for the trade, I think the team will keep Mitch the rest of the year and trade him next summer.

I'm not sure what the plan is, but we'll eventually have to plan a future without Mitch.

I will assume it's going to involve avoiding the second apron one more year. Mitch is a valuable salary slot heading into the summer. He's also a very good player when healthy. I think they will take the risk at least this season but, Leon comes out of nowhere with trades.

I’m using Spotrac’s $8.9mm number. My assumption is they keep Huk at his 1.9 number and sign a 2nd rd pick to a similar contract (the Knicks own the more favorable of the Celtics/Grizzlies pick which will fall in the mid 50’s, but I think they can use cash to move up 10-15 slots to grab a guy they want).

This would leave the Knicks 7.7mm below the 2nd apron, with 11 guys on the roster.

Brunson/Kolek
Bridges/McBride
Anunoby/Dadiet
Hart
Towns/Robinson/Huk
2025 2nd rd pick.

Using 3 vet min slots (2.1mm) allows NY to round round the roster to 14 with 1.4 or so below the apron, which is enough for a mid season buy out guy. Under the new CBA, there have ben more and better opportunities with the minimums as guys have been opting for a prove it year on a contender over a few more dollars on a bad team (ie: Tyus Jones, Gary Trent Jr)

So we basically have to choose between Mitch or Precious to round out the roster unless Precious can be had for $3.5mm.

The most likely goal is to stay below the 2nd apron next year - unless a great opportunity presents itself - and then become a 2nd apron team for the following 2 years. After that, you need to drop below the 2nd apron (28-29 season) but the books are clear outside Brunson and Anunoby’s player options.

In short, outside of moving off the core, there is a limited opportunity to use Robinson’s contract to get a more durable piece of this roster.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I'm not sure what the plan is, but we'll eventually have to plan a future without Mitch.

I will assume it's going to involve avoiding the second apron one more year. Mitch is a valuable salary slot heading into the summer. He's also a very good player when healthy. I think they will take the risk at least this season but, Leon comes out of nowhere with trades.

I’m using Spotrac’s $8.9mm number. My assumption is they keep Huk at his 1.9 number and sign a 2nd rd pick to a similar contract (the Knicks own the more favorable of the Celtics/Grizzlies pick which will fall in the mid 50’s, but I think they can use cash to move up 10-15 slots to grab a guy they want).

This would leave the Knicks 7.7mm below the 2nd apron, with 11 guys on the roster.

Brunson/Kolek
Bridges/McBride
Anunoby/Dadiet
Hart
Towns/Robinson/Huk
2025 2nd rd pick.

Using 3 vet min slots (2.1mm) allows NY to round round the roster to 14 with 1.4 or so below the apron, which is enough for a mid season buy out guy. Under the new CBA, there have ben more and better opportunities with the minimums as guys have been opting for a prove it year on a contender over a few more dollars on a bad team (ie: Tyus Jones, Gary Trent Jr)

So we basically have to choose between Mitch or Precious to round out the roster unless Precious can be had for $3.5mm.

The most likely goal is to stay below the 2nd apron next year - unless a great opportunity presents itself - and then become a 2nd apron team for the following 2 years. After that, you need to drop below the 2nd apron (28-29 season) but the books are clear outside Brunson and Anunoby’s player options.

In short, outside of moving off the core, there is a limited opportunity to use Robinson’s contract to get a more durable piece of this roster.

They have until next deadline to decide what they do with Mitch. He's not coming back for another month at least. I never say never but, I have a feeling they take the risk of keeping him the rest of the year. We have 5+ weeks to find out.

[R-DAWG]

I will assume it's going to involve avoiding the second apron one more year. Mitch is a valuable salary slot heading into the summer. He's also a very good player when healthy. I think they will take the risk at least this season but, Leon comes out of nowhere with trades.

I’m using Spotrac’s $8.9mm number. My assumption is they keep Huk at his 1.9 number and sign a 2nd rd pick to a similar contract (the Knicks own the more favorable of the Celtics/Grizzlies pick which will fall in the mid 50’s, but I think they can use cash to move up 10-15 slots to grab a guy they want).

This would leave the Knicks 7.7mm below the 2nd apron, with 11 guys on the roster.

Brunson/Kolek
Bridges/McBride
Anunoby/Dadiet
Hart
Towns/Robinson/Huk
2025 2nd rd pick.

Using 3 vet min slots (2.1mm) allows NY to round round the roster to 14 with 1.4 or so below the apron, which is enough for a mid season buy out guy. Under the new CBA, there have ben more and better opportunities with the minimums as guys have been opting for a prove it year on a contender over a few more dollars on a bad team (ie: Tyus Jones, Gary Trent Jr)

So we basically have to choose between Mitch or Precious to round out the roster unless Precious can be had for $3.5mm.

The most likely goal is to stay below the 2nd apron next year - unless a great opportunity presents itself - and then become a 2nd apron team for the following 2 years. After that, you need to drop below the 2nd apron (28-29 season) but the books are clear outside Brunson and Anunoby’s player options.

In short, outside of moving off the core, there is a limited opportunity to use Robinson’s contract to get a more durable piece of this roster.

They have until next deadline to decide what they do with Mitch. He's not coming back for another month at least. I never say never but, I have a feeling they take the risk of keeping him the rest of the year. We have 5+ weeks to find out.

I agree re Mitch. Your not getting any value for him and with the incentives we have to add the return doesn’t seem like it will be great. But he’s a strong playoff run away from being worth a first round pick in a trade. I don’t think a guy with as much upside is available.

One other thing to add to the thought above - don’t be surprised to see Jericho Sims back on one of the minimum slots that preserves his bird rights with the goal of signing him to a human trade exception contract in the summer of 2026. While the CBA restricts sign and trades to create salary slots for 2nd apron teams, it doesn’t restrict trading your own players a few months after signing them. So I see a world where the Knicks explode over the 2nd apron for 2 years.

Expanding on that thought, NY can potentially offer Precious 1+1 starting at 3.5mm, with year 2 being a $4mm player option to retain bird rights.

[Jonathan2347]

Jonas is available for 2nd round pick.

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[NoDopeOnSundays]

Jonas is available for 2nd round pick.

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We really don't need him; he's just a big body that doesn't really defend.

[3toheadmelo]

Jonas is available for 2nd round pick.

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We really don't need him; he's just a big body that doesn't really defend.

Who do you think is our last piece to win a chip?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Jonas is available for 2nd round pick.

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We really don't need him; he's just a big body that doesn't really defend.

Who do you think is our last piece to win a chip?

Health



I think next year is when we'll be the favorites, after we have a chance to load up on vet minimum guys and get maybe another bench scorer or Brock works some magic.

This year, we'd need another wing that can play. Just look at the Celtics from last year, very top heavy but Sam Hauser got real minutes all throughout the playoffs and played legitimate minutes in the finals, he played more than anyone outside the starting 5. Maybe Shamet can be that, but even then we still need 1 more wing/forward that can hit threes.

[stuporman]

The deadline all these nice depth guys be available for cheap the Knicks don't have the wiggle room to make it work.

Still suspect nothing gets done for the Knicks, they running with the guys they got this season.

[R-DAWG]

Jonas is available for 2nd round pick.

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We really don't need him; he's just a big body that doesn't really defend.

Who do you think is our last piece to win a chip?

I hate to say it, but for this team to be favored to win a chip they need another top-10 player who is also a 2 way player.

Teams built around a fringe top-10 and fringe top-20 player, both of whom are below average defensively, tend not to win championships. They look great against most of the league in the regular season, but come playoff time it’s a different story.

[stuporman]

We really don't need him; he's just a big body that doesn't really defend.

Who do you think is our last piece to win a chip?

I hate to say it, but for this team to be favored to win a chip they need another top-10 player who is also a 2 way player.

Teams built around a fringe top-10 and fringe top-20 player, both of whom are below average defensively, tend not to win championships. They look great against most of the league in the regular season, but come playoff time it’s a different story.

Mavs fans will be upset to hear your hypothesis....

Nuggets fans shining up their rings.... *shrugging*

Warriors fans counting the trophies...

[Knicksfan1992]

Jalen Brunson putting up Curry numbers is fringe top 10 now? He's been the best guard in the league for 2 seasons now. And no Luka and SGA aren't guards they are wings.

I swear some of you don't even like the Knicks lol