2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2

[Psubs]

Tomislav is THE player I want us to draft in the 2nd, his bro is just a back up plan.

But if we could net another 2nd in a trade for Olynk or Boucher, I'd use that to move up into the late 1st to ensure we get him. Short of getting a franchise big...he's about as an ideal of a C prospect that we could get to fit into the lineup, reminds me a lot of Brook Lopez but has shown a better 3pt shot earlier.

Big Z looks ok but his feet are a little slow. Again would still be a nice fall back but his younger bro seems ideal imo.

Get both as they complement each other. Look at Capela abusing our glued to the ground "bigs"; at least the Ivisic's are 7'2.

They both have quick and confident releases on their 3pt shots. It makes be believe.

I'm just being realistic that it will be likely one or the other SHOULD the FO decide to draft another big man.

There's zero rumours of Yak being shopped/traded so I think he'll be here for the foreseeable future and Masai isn't going to give up on Chomche so quickly. One of those 2 would likely take Kelly's spot in the rotation and if I have to pick between the 2, I'm taking Tomislav and it's really not close.

As I said, for me Big Z is purely a fallback plan. If we can't move up to the late 1st Rd to secure Tomislav (because I think there will be some team that can just as easily recognize as many of us on here do that TIvisic has some really nice potential as a stretch big) then sure take Big Z. But I don't think it's realistic to expect us to take both especially when again, I think Tommy goes late 1st.

That's why, I'm waiting for moves to get more 2nd picks and ultimately make a trade with a 2nd pick for a late 1st.

[RoteSchroder]

Get both as they complement each other. Look at Capela abusing our glued to the ground "bigs"; at least the Ivisic's are 7'2.

They both have quick and confident releases on their 3pt shots. It makes be believe.

I'm just being realistic that it will be likely one or the other SHOULD the FO decide to draft another big man.

There's zero rumours of Yak being shopped/traded so I think he'll be here for the foreseeable future and Masai isn't going to give up on Chomche so quickly. One of those 2 would likely take Kelly's spot in the rotation and if I have to pick between the 2, I'm taking Tomislav and it's really not close.

As I said, for me Big Z is purely a fallback plan. If we can't move up to the late 1st Rd to secure Tomislav (because I think there will be some team that can just as easily recognize as many of us on here do that TIvisic has some really nice potential as a stretch big) then sure take Big Z. But I don't think it's realistic to expect us to take both especially when again, I think Tommy goes late 1st.

That's why, I'm waiting for moves to get more 2nd picks and ultimately make a trade with a 2nd pick for a late 1st.

I'm fine with just getting multiple early 2nds. Feels like there's a lot of late prospects this draft that can be contributors in the NBA

I wouldn't mind getting Tom Ivisic, Alex Karaban, Rasheer Fleming, Isaiah Evans, Bogoljub Markovic, Johni Broome and maybe a few others I haven't looked into.

Haven't looked at too many late 1sts yet, but I like Adou Theiro and Labaron Philon

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Tre Johnson is a really sketchy player. The best outcome for him would be something along the lines of Isaiah Joe but I'm not sure he can work his way to neutrality on D or embrace that role. Between the inability to get to the hole or draw fouls, awful rebounding and poor D even if he were to shoot 50/40/90 w/ his 3par+ftr it wouldn't make him a guy I want to be forced to pay a max to.

I highly reject this claim that the best outcome will be along the lines of Isaiah Joe to the point I'd be tempted to quote it in a sig so it's not forgotten but I won't be that petty lol.

I'm not saying he will be Booker but I think he'll be closer to being something like a DBook than he will Isaiah Joe. Isaiah Joe can not create off the dribble for himself anywhere near what Tre is showing. Again I'm not certain he'll be as high level as Dev but he'll be much better than Joe, that I'm confident in.

quote it then, tre johnson is a loser

devin booker is the absolute apex of that archetype and it's a bad archetype for winning, tre has a hell of a long way to go and myriads of things to clean up to get there

[Psubs]

I'm just being realistic that it will be likely one or the other SHOULD the FO decide to draft another big man.

There's zero rumours of Yak being shopped/traded so I think he'll be here for the foreseeable future and Masai isn't going to give up on Chomche so quickly. One of those 2 would likely take Kelly's spot in the rotation and if I have to pick between the 2, I'm taking Tomislav and it's really not close.

As I said, for me Big Z is purely a fallback plan. If we can't move up to the late 1st Rd to secure Tomislav (because I think there will be some team that can just as easily recognize as many of us on here do that TIvisic has some really nice potential as a stretch big) then sure take Big Z. But I don't think it's realistic to expect us to take both especially when again, I think Tommy goes late 1st.

That's why, I'm waiting for moves to get more 2nd picks and ultimately make a trade with a 2nd pick for a late 1st.

I'm fine with just getting multiple early 2nds. Feels like there's a lot of late prospects this draft that can be contributors in the NBA

I wouldn't mind getting Tom Ivisic, Alex Karaban, Rasheer Fleming, Isaiah Evans, Bogoljub Markovic, Johni Broome and maybe a few others I haven't looked into.

Haven't looked at too many late 1sts yet, but I like Adou Theiro and Labaron Philon

Why is Philon declaring? He can't shoot at all, like Davion.

[RoteSchroder]

That's why, I'm waiting for moves to get more 2nd picks and ultimately make a trade with a 2nd pick for a late 1st.

I'm fine with just getting multiple early 2nds. Feels like there's a lot of late prospects this draft that can be contributors in the NBA

I wouldn't mind getting Tom Ivisic, Alex Karaban, Rasheer Fleming, Isaiah Evans, Bogoljub Markovic, Johni Broome and maybe a few others I haven't looked into.

Haven't looked at too many late 1sts yet, but I like Adou Theiro and Labaron Philon

Why is Philon declaring? He can't shoot at all, like Davion.

How his shooting develops is a question mark, but I think he's shown more versatility in his scoring compared to Davion. Davion was at -0.3 BPM in his freshman year..whereas Labaron's at 9.4.

CMB, Adou, Cooper Flagg, Edgecombe and a few others have all been poor shooters..doesn't mean they shouldn't declare.

[Ell Curry]

Tre Johnson is a really sketchy player. The best outcome for him would be something along the lines of Isaiah Joe but I'm not sure he can work his way to neutrality on D or embrace that role. Between the inability to get to the hole or draw fouls, awful rebounding and poor D even if he were to shoot 50/40/90 w/ his 3par+ftr it wouldn't make him a guy I want to be forced to pay a max to.

I highly reject this claim that the best outcome will be along the lines of Isaiah Joe to the point I'd be tempted to quote it in a sig so it's not forgotten but I won't be that petty lol.

I'm not saying he will be Booker but I think he'll be closer to being something like a DBook than he will Isaiah Joe. Isaiah Joe can not create off the dribble for himself anywhere near what Tre is showing. Again I'm not certain he'll be as high level as Dev but he'll be much better than Joe, that I'm confident in.

quote it then, tre johnson is a loser

devin booker is the absolute apex of that archetype and it's a bad archetype for winning, tre has a hell of a long way to go and myriads of things to clean up to get there

Bit harsh on Booker. He had a team up 2-1 in the finals. A hot night of Pat Connaughton shooting away from a game 7.

He's actually one of the guys I could see us going all in on with a picks trade in a year or 2.

Say it's the summer of 2026 and we've ended up with Flagg in this draft, and Phoenix would take an expiring Barrett + whoever we sign for the MLE this coming summer + Dick and our 2027 + 2029 + 2031 1sts for Booker:

Poeltl-2026IND-Chomche
Barnes-Mogbo
Flagg-Agbaji-Battle
Booker-Walter
Quickley-2026TOR-Shead

Or if we draft Harper, put in Quickley instead of RJ and take out a first:

Poeltl-2026IND-Chomche
Barnes-Mogbo
Agbaji-Barrett-Battle
Booker-Walter
Harper-2026TOR-Shead

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I highly reject this claim that the best outcome will be along the lines of Isaiah Joe to the point I'd be tempted to quote it in a sig so it's not forgotten but I won't be that petty lol.

I'm not saying he will be Booker but I think he'll be closer to being something like a DBook than he will Isaiah Joe. Isaiah Joe can not create off the dribble for himself anywhere near what Tre is showing. Again I'm not certain he'll be as high level as Dev but he'll be much better than Joe, that I'm confident in.

quote it then, tre johnson is a loser

devin booker is the absolute apex of that archetype and it's a bad archetype for winning, tre has a hell of a long way to go and myriads of things to clean up to get there

Bit harsh on Booker. He had a team up 2-1 in the finals. A hot night of Pat Connaughton shooting away from a game 7.

He's actually one of the guys I could see us going all in on with a picks trade in a year or 2.

Say it's the summer of 2026 and we've ended up with Flagg in this draft, and Phoenix would take an expiring Barrett + whoever we sign for the MLE this coming summer + Dick and our 2027 + 2029 + 2031 1sts for Booker:

Poeltl-2026IND-Chomche
Barnes-Mogbo
Flagg-Agbaji-Battle
Booker-Walter
Quickley-2026TOR-Shead

Or if we draft Harper, put in Quickley instead of RJ and take out a first:

Poeltl-2026IND-Chomche
Barnes-Mogbo
Agbaji-Barrett-Battle
Booker-Walter
Harper-2026TOR-Shead

i mean it's a bad draft archetype

cam thomas is another trashcan he can turn into

[PhilBlackson]

quote it then, tre johnson is a loser

devin booker is the absolute apex of that archetype and it's a bad archetype for winning, tre has a hell of a long way to go and myriads of things to clean up to get there

Bit harsh on Booker. He had a team up 2-1 in the finals. A hot night of Pat Connaughton shooting away from a game 7.

He's actually one of the guys I could see us going all in on with a picks trade in a year or 2.

Say it's the summer of 2026 and we've ended up with Flagg in this draft, and Phoenix would take an expiring Barrett + whoever we sign for the MLE this coming summer + Dick and our 2027 + 2029 + 2031 1sts for Booker:

Poeltl-2026IND-Chomche
Barnes-Mogbo
Flagg-Agbaji-Battle
Booker-Walter
Quickley-2026TOR-Shead

Or if we draft Harper, put in Quickley instead of RJ and take out a first:

Poeltl-2026IND-Chomche
Barnes-Mogbo
Agbaji-Barrett-Battle
Booker-Walter
Harper-2026TOR-Shead

i mean it's a bad draft archetype

cam thomas is another trashcan he can turn into

No idea why he’s being compared to a much more limited ballhandler like Joe or shorter, stubby ballhog like Cam Thomas but Tre is shooting 51% from 2, 43% from 3 and 83% from the FT line which are again more in line with Booker (and actually Tre is shooting a better 3pt % but we’ll obv expect a slight drop) but especially his college numbers despite having more shot attempts and projecting (at the time) to be an even more potent scorer by the per 40 production (although ofc I acknowledge Book’s ppg would’ve been affected by a more limited role but likewise Tre should be given the credit of producing at the same level of efficiency with a greater demand).

But he’s also not some stubby built SG that has questionable PG like measurements like Thomas but again a similar height to Booker and looks to have at least an equivalent wingspan (potentially better) AND better athleticism. Most fair draft analysts have dubbed him the best pure scorer in this draft class. But hey whatever you want to use to fuel your odd hate for Tre is up to you. Not every prospect is for everyone but I’m not buying into this oddly pessimistic stance on him and again to be clear I’m not saying he will be Booker but I see no reason to believe his “potential” is capped out at the level of prospects that don’t have the same skill sets, production or same physical attributes but do you…

[Psubs]

No idea why he’s being compared to a much more limited ballhandler like Joe or shorter, stubby ballhog like Cam Thomas but Tre is shooting 51% from 2, 43% from 3 and 83% from the FT line which are again more in line with Booker (and actually Tre is shooting a better 3pt % but we’ll obv expect a slight drop) but especially his college numbers despite having more shot attempts and projecting (at the time) to be an even more potent scorer by the per 40 production (although ofc I acknowledge Book’s ppg would’ve been affected by a more limited role but likewise Tre should be given the credit of producing at the same level of efficiency with a greater demand).

But he’s also not some stubby built SG that has questionable PG like measurements like Thomas but again a similar height to Booker and looks to have at least an equivalent wingspan (potentially better) AND better athleticism. Most fair draft analysts have dubbed him the best pure scorer in this draft class. But hey whatever you want to use to fuel your odd hate for Tre is up to you. Not every prospect is for everyone but I’m not buying into this oddly pessimistic stance on him and again to be clear I’m not saying he will be Booker but I see no reason to believe his “potential” is capped out at the level of prospects that don’t have the same skill sets, production or same physical attributes but do you…

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Now through 11 games, he's shooting 49/44/84

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Bit harsh on Booker. He had a team up 2-1 in the finals. A hot night of Pat Connaughton shooting away from a game 7.

He's actually one of the guys I could see us going all in on with a picks trade in a year or 2.

Say it's the summer of 2026 and we've ended up with Flagg in this draft, and Phoenix would take an expiring Barrett + whoever we sign for the MLE this coming summer + Dick and our 2027 + 2029 + 2031 1sts for Booker:

Poeltl-2026IND-Chomche
Barnes-Mogbo
Flagg-Agbaji-Battle
Booker-Walter
Quickley-2026TOR-Shead

Or if we draft Harper, put in Quickley instead of RJ and take out a first:

Poeltl-2026IND-Chomche
Barnes-Mogbo
Agbaji-Barrett-Battle
Booker-Walter
Harper-2026TOR-Shead

i mean it's a bad draft archetype

cam thomas is another trashcan he can turn into

No idea why he’s being compared to a much more limited ballhandler like Joe or shorter, stubby ballhog like Cam Thomas but Tre is shooting 51% from 2, 43% from 3 and 83% from the FT line which are again more in line with Booker (and actually Tre is shooting a better 3pt % but we’ll obv expect a slight drop) but especially his college numbers despite having more shot attempts and projecting (at the time) to be an even more potent scorer by the per 40 production (although ofc I acknowledge Book’s ppg would’ve been affected by a more limited role but likewise Tre should be given the credit of producing at the same level of efficiency with a greater demand).

But he’s also not some stubby built SG that has questionable PG like measurements like Thomas but again a similar height to Booker and looks to have at least an equivalent wingspan (potentially better) AND better athleticism. Most fair draft analysts have dubbed him the best pure scorer in this draft class. But hey whatever you want to use to fuel your odd hate for Tre is up to you. Not every prospect is for everyone but I’m not buying into this oddly pessimistic stance on him and again to be clear I’m not saying he will be Booker but I see no reason to believe his “potential” is capped out at the level of prospects that don’t have the same skill sets, production or same physical attributes but do you…

The fact you are interested in a wing averaging 3.0 rebounds per 36 is actually disgusting and Texas' SOS has been easy sauce so far.

[Mark_83]

Tre Johnson is a really sketchy player. The best outcome for him would be something along the lines of Isaiah Joe but I'm not sure he can work his way to neutrality on D or embrace that role. Between the inability to get to the hole or draw fouls, awful rebounding and poor D even if he were to shoot 50/40/90 w/ his 3par+ftr it wouldn't make him a guy I want to be forced to pay a max to.

I highly reject this claim that the best outcome will be along the lines of Isaiah Joe to the point I'd be tempted to quote it in a sig so it's not forgotten but I won't be that petty lol.

I'm not saying he will be Booker but I think he'll be closer to being something like a DBook than he will Isaiah Joe. Isaiah Joe can not create off the dribble for himself anywhere near what Tre is showing. Again I'm not certain he'll be as high level as Dev but he'll be much better than Joe, that I'm confident in.

quote it then, tre johnson is a loser

devin booker is the absolute apex of that archetype and it's a bad archetype for winning, tre has a hell of a long way to go and myriads of things to clean up to get there

Might be time to create a new account soon with all these cringey hot takes.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I highly reject this claim that the best outcome will be along the lines of Isaiah Joe to the point I'd be tempted to quote it in a sig so it's not forgotten but I won't be that petty lol.

I'm not saying he will be Booker but I think he'll be closer to being something like a DBook than he will Isaiah Joe. Isaiah Joe can not create off the dribble for himself anywhere near what Tre is showing. Again I'm not certain he'll be as high level as Dev but he'll be much better than Joe, that I'm confident in.

quote it then, tre johnson is a loser

devin booker is the absolute apex of that archetype and it's a bad archetype for winning, tre has a hell of a long way to go and myriads of things to clean up to get there

Might be time to create a new account soon with all these cringey hot takes.

Your draft board was a steaming pile of manure and you posted it POST draft, what a massive loser. How is Zaccharie Risacher, the worst #1 overall pick since Anthony Bennett doing?

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

What about superstar on-ball creator Bilal Coulibaly or GG Jackson? Crickets.

This board is so cringey and 90% of you **** talked Zach Edey.

[Mark_83]

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

go suck on your mom's thumb manchild

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Only on realgm raptors will you find people simping for a wing with a .193 free throw rate, ~1 DBPM and 2 offensive rebounds in 339 minutes on a college court vs one of the worst schedules in CBB through 11 games, thinking he's going to save this offensively anemic franchise just because he can create and nail tough jumpshots while being borderline useless in many other facets of the game.

It's the Smitch MO SHATS mentality. Basketball is more nuanced and requires more nuanced players to win at the highest level.

[RoteSchroder]

Only on realgm raptors will you find people simping for a wing with a .193 free throw rate, ~1 DBPM and 2 offensive rebounds in 339 minutes on a college court vs one of the worst schedules in CBB through 11 games, thinking he's going to save this offensively anemic franchise just because he can create and nail tough jumpshots while being borderline useless in many other facets of the game.

It's the Smitch MO SHATS mentality. Basketball is more nuanced and requires more nuanced players to win at the highest level.

A Klay Thompson, Devin Booker, Cam Thomas type wouldn’t be the end of the world. Ideally we want a guy who has better on-ball slashing ability in addition to perimeter shooting. If he can hit an efficient 20+ PPG, his upside boils down to how well he can defend.

Not too concerned about rebounding, more concerned about 1v1 D and rotational/help D. Another thing to note is that all these players were able to improve parts of their non-scoring game in college/NBA.

[God Squad]

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Get them both and figure it out later.

Without looking at advanced stats Tomislov looked better than Zvonimir on offense, but not sure about defense, at least in this matchup. I don't see why they couldn't be atop our 2nd round big board.

[Bruin]

I remember when RBC was simping for Podz

[God Squad]

Ace Bailey doesn’t belong in the top 5.

You don't know basketball. What does the raptors struggle with? Folks that can score. What is Ace good at ? Bucket maker

Why are Fears and Johnson rising? Buckets

Both Fears and Johnson are currently better basketball players than Ace.

That's a FACT, period. Now Ace has plenty of time to turn things around. But I wouldn't touch him top 5(Yet), and would be fine letting some other team take that swing.