The LeBron James All-NBA (2nd) and Luka Doncic - 24-25 Thread

[zimpy27]

We still have our 2nd this year and the clippers 2nd

Not a lot of guys for that probably

Nick Richards: Likely want more, but JHS and Hayes and 2 2nds is all we got.
Alex Len: JHS and 2nds feels fair, but unsure if hes even an upgrade
Kevon Looney??: Would GS move him to us? Needs to be a 3 teamer, so thats tough
Paul Reed
Steven Adams is interesting, but I dont see a deal that makes sense unless they are interested in Gabe and 2nds. Maybe can offer a swap with some protections? Or a 3rd team who wants Vando and throw in a swap if we want Gabe?

Are we allowed to take on more salary now in a deal now or still no?

Lakers have Rui, Wood, Hayes, Koloko

They only need 10mpg in playoffs, they may choose C by committee. It might be better to have a selection of backup Cs for matchup flexibility anyway.

But yeah, maybe Lakers do make a move for a legit big by using an FRP. The salaries they have remaining are multi year, so they may need an FRP to shed anyway.

We might see Vincent+FRP for Val+3xSRPs.

These people can't play at C in the playoffs for a serious team

They may or may not be able to. Lakers have time to assess over next couple months.

[TroubleS0me]

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[The Master]

1. DFS is a good role player, but we all know how his 44% from 3s will end up in Lakers, especially considering he was 37% shooter since Doncic prior to this season and having in mind how all these players having career highs shooting-wise were slumping then in Lakers uniform.

2. Reaves-Christie-DFS-LeBron-AD may be the first time since Westbrook trade that Lakers have decent lineup in terms of defensive players and shooting. I hope Christie will keep up his splits from last month or so.

3. Russell had very tradeable contract, so moving him already suggests no other big deal will be made.

Lakers still need another ballhandler and back-up big, so I'm not over-enthusiastic, but it is a move into the right direction, better something than nothing after all.

[Slava]

Lakers cut $10M off their tax bill, which is excellent when you consider they added a potential starter for an expendable piece. Russell’s worth to LA went away the more Reaves got better and turned into the secondary ball handler who can handle high pressure situations with Lebron‘s trust.

[zimpy27]

Lakers cut $10M off their tax bill, which is excellent when you consider they added a potential starter for an expendable piece. Russell’s worth to LA went away the more Reaves got better and turned into the secondary ball handler who can handle high pressure situations with Lebron‘s trust.

Shake is being undervalued here too.

$3m per year for 3 seasons is a bargain deal for a guy who could be your backup PG.

[Slava]

Lakers cut $10M off their tax bill, which is excellent when you consider they added a potential starter for an expendable piece. Russell’s worth to LA went away the more Reaves got better and turned into the secondary ball handler who can handle high pressure situations with Lebron‘s trust.

Shake is being undervalued here too.

$3m per year for 3 seasons is a bargain deal for a guy who could be your backup PG.

I don’t know what to even make of him. If he’s better than anyone we can get with an open roster spot, like Fultz, it’s worth it as a fringe rotation guard.

[zimpy27]

Lakers cut $10M off their tax bill, which is excellent when you consider they added a potential starter for an expendable piece. Russell’s worth to LA went away the more Reaves got better and turned into the secondary ball handler who can handle high pressure situations with Lebron‘s trust.

Shake is being undervalued here too.

$3m per year for 3 seasons is a bargain deal for a guy who could be your backup PG.

I don’t know what to even make of him. If he’s better than anyone we can get with an open roster spot, like Fultz, it’s worth it as a fringe rotation guard.

He's looked really good this season.

He's struggled with consistency through his career but I believe he's showed some on the Nets.

Importantly he's a 6'5 guard,so Lakers lose no size. He's a decent O-rebounder for a guard, about double as good as DLo

[ShaqAttac]

are they good at d?

[Mos_Heat]

Lakers have Rui, Wood, Hayes, Koloko

They only need 10mpg in playoffs, they may choose C by committee. It might be better to have a selection of backup Cs for matchup flexibility anyway.

But yeah, maybe Lakers do make a move for a legit big by using an FRP. The salaries they have remaining are multi year, so they may need an FRP to shed anyway.

We might see Vincent+FRP for Val+3xSRPs.

These people can't play at C in the playoffs for a serious team

They may or may not be able to. Lakers have time to assess over next couple months.

There's nothing to assess, the answer is clear. They still match up badly against Jokic and highly depended on AD's health.

I think Kessler and Sexton are really intriguing if they can do it for 27' 1-4 + uprotected 29 + a swap I would think about it long and hard

[dcstanley]

These people can't play at C in the playoffs for a serious team

They may or may not be able to. Lakers have time to assess over next couple months.

There's nothing to assess, the answer is clear. They still match up badly against Jokic and highly depended on AD's health.

I think Kessler and Sexton are really intriguing if they can do it for 27' 1-4 + uprotected 29 + a swap I would think about it long and hard

Would balance the roster but as flawed as Rui idk if I would be willing to part with him for two unproven guys. I'm especially lukewarm on Sexton, not sure he's a playoff guy. Both Sexton and Kessler look good on EPM though.

Reaves/Sexton/Vincent
Christie/Knecht
DFS/Vando/Reddish
LBJ/Wood
AD/Kessler/Hayes

I guess that's better than what we currently have if Sexton isn't a total sieve defensively

[zimpy27]

These people can't play at C in the playoffs for a serious team

They may or may not be able to. Lakers have time to assess over next couple months.

There's nothing to assess, the answer is clear. They still match up badly against Jokic and highly depended on AD's health.

I think Kessler and Sexton are really intriguing if they can do it for 27' 1-4 + uprotected 29 + a swap I would think about it long and hard

Giving minutes to DFS that you took from DLo should boost the defense enough.

Can Kessler and Davis share the floor for 20 minutes a night in the playoffs and not badly impact the offense?

I don't see it, I think Vucevic or Olynyk are better choice. I believe Lakers will wait for Wood to return and see how he fits with the team now.

Lakers are purposefully going for big guards because they saw Schroeder's defense be useless against Jamal Murray, they need a bigger bodied guard to put on him. Sexton isn't a target.


The interesting players are on the Bulls and Raptors.
Lonzo, Vuc, Smith, Brown, Olynyk

[zimpy27]

A reason Olynyk could be the best bet:
https://www.sportingnews.com/au/nba/news/nikola-jokic-stoppers-lebron-james-warriors-blueprint/922de28c190d2f1dc3c5500e

I'd also be keen on Wendall Carter Jr

[trickshot]

Still need a 5. Maybe you get lucky and one becomes available in the buyout but it has to be a pressing concern. The West is loaded with the type of skilled 7 footers you can't outrun. You're not dodging that smoke if you want to het to the WCF. If AD has to guard them fulltime for 7 games you've already lost. If he's not up to the task you give up paint protection just so he can still get cooked anyway. It's about unlocking and retaining AD's defensive impact against several matchups. It's a silently expensive insurance to pass up on.

[trickshot]

These people can't play at C in the playoffs for a serious team

They may or may not be able to. Lakers have time to assess over next couple months.

There's nothing to assess, the answer is clear. They still match up badly against Jokic and highly depended on AD's health.

I think Kessler and Sexton are really intriguing if they can do it for 27' 1-4 + uprotected 29 + a swap I would think about it long and hard

Ainge doesn't seem to want to give him that big deal but expects someone to cough up 2FRPs for the same headache. All time most annoying negotiator. You just know they didn't make him GM in name because they knew no one would want to deal with them. Final offer should be to try get a 3rd team to send a sweetner and one FRP. If that team doesn't exist then hard pass. Wait for buyouts.

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[tsherkin]

Lebron's looking mortal so far this season in terms of his scoring, but his overall game is still there. And the fact that he's scoring in the mid-20s on over league-average efficiency while still rebounding and rocking 9 apg at this age is also WILD. Like, if he wasn't Lebron, even as a slightly above-average scorer, that's still pretty excellent production. And that is what passes as "looking mortal" for him.

Damn.

[TroubleS0me]

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[trickshot]

Lebron's looking mortal so far this season in terms of his scoring, but his overall game is still there. And the fact that he's scoring in the mid-20s on over league-average efficiency while still rebounding and rocking 9 apg at this age is also WILD. Like, if he wasn't Lebron, even as a slightly above-average scorer, that's still pretty excellent production. And that is what passes as "looking mortal" for him.

Damn.

Still mad he went and ruined his efficiency sleepwalking through that 6 game stretch. Reddick said they had a long talk about it so he has thankfully stopped chucking, turning the ball over and giving low energy. Commend the effort but shooting to play 82 games was always a bad idea.

[tsherkin]

Lebron's looking mortal so far this season in terms of his scoring, but his overall game is still there. And the fact that he's scoring in the mid-20s on over league-average efficiency while still rebounding and rocking 9 apg at this age is also WILD. Like, if he wasn't Lebron, even as a slightly above-average scorer, that's still pretty excellent production. And that is what passes as "looking mortal" for him.

Damn.

Still mad he went and ruined his efficiency sleepwalking through that 6 game stretch. Reddick said they had a long talk about it so he has thankfully stopped chucking, turning the ball over and giving low energy. Commend the effort but shooting to play 82 games was always a bad idea.

We'll see what happens with the remainder of the season, but literally anything he does is gravy at this point. LA doesn't have a competitive roster, and he's 40. It's just time to enjoy whatever's left of his storied career.

[nzahir]

They may or may not be able to. Lakers have time to assess over next couple months.

There's nothing to assess, the answer is clear. They still match up badly against Jokic and highly depended on AD's health.

I think Kessler and Sexton are really intriguing if they can do it for 27' 1-4 + uprotected 29 + a swap I would think about it long and hard

Would balance the roster but as flawed as Rui idk if I would be willing to part with him for two unproven guys. I'm especially lukewarm on Sexton, not sure he's a playoff guy. Both Sexton and Kessler look good on EPM though.

Reaves/Sexton/Vincent
Christie/Knecht
DFS/Vando/Reddish
LBJ/Wood
AD/Kessler/Hayes

I guess that's better than what we currently have if Sexton isn't a total sieve defensively

We’re definitely not giving up Rui and all those draft assets in the Utah deal

It would be Vincent and Vando or Vincent, Wood, JHS, Milton works on trade machine

I don’t think we can bench Rui with this group, offense would suffer. Need his shot making and scoring in post and fast break that DFS doesn’t offer

We for sure still need a backup 5

The question is can we get one that can also play with AD and play defense? Not many I can even think of

Myles Turner would be nice
Jalen Smith from Chicago is more of a Wood upgrade and can play backup C. But still need to think about a Jokic matchup

Would be interested to get defense data on Vuc and Olynk. Don’t think they would help the defense, but maybe I can be pleasantly surprised

The dream would be a big like Turner and then Lonzo gets bought out

Vincent+Jhs+Wood+Cam+29 1st and 2 2nds for Turner

Reaves, Christie, Rui, Bron, AD
Lonzo, Knecht, Vando, DFS, Turner