PG Bulls- Ugly Loss

[Fotis St]

Turnovers should be counted as missed FG Attempts.
When I coached a co workers team, I instructed them to not risk a pass and I would rather see them airball a shot than turn the ball over which 80-90% leads to opponents fast break points. Therefore whoever has 7 turnovers either Khris or Giannis or Dame should be called out to stop their stupidity.

We had 82 FG attempts and 22 turnovers...
This is key to start scoring 130+ points daily.
We need to get to that status in order to compete against Boston and other elite teams

[Dick Tate]

I’d like to see some more Rollins-Green-Lillard lineups.

[ShootingtheJ]

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Giddey just turned 22. If he ever decided to exert himself heavily on defense he’d be a borderline all star.

Fully recognize he plays D like Charlie Villanueva did. That’s the whole problem right there. Otherwise offensively he’s like Kukoc.

He's the same player at 22 as he was at 19, and will likely be pretty similar to this at 26. Fringe starter on mediocre teams.

He'll continue to do all the things he did last night. Fun passes, sloppy turnovers, hit the side of the backboard on a 3 attempt, make a wild runner, blow a defensive rotation.

He's about to get grossly overpaid because teams mistake age for potential.

[rilamann]

Middleton is a role player now.

In the games where he has accepted that fact he has been a positive.

In the games where he thinks he's the same guy he was in 2021 he has sabotaged us.

What he's supposed to take 5 shots in games where Giannis and Dame aren't playing?

Number of shots isn't a huge deal.

But Middleton needs to have the ball in his hands less and when he does have the ball in his hands, look to make a play more often than trying to get your own shot.

These last 2 games Middleton had the ball in his hands way too much in the 4th and it was a big reason why we lost both games.

The 2025 version of Middleton needs to play off of his teammates to get his offense, he's not the same guy he was in 2021 were he can consistently get his own shot. If he tries to be the 2021 version of himself he's going to be a negative.

If Middleton plays off of his teammates and ends up shooting the ball 20 times I have no issue with that, he can still be a scorer and a positive factor.

That said, I will take these last few games with a grain of salt since we didn't have Giannis out there.

[-Jragon-]

Middleton is a role player now.

In the games where he has accepted that fact he has been a positive.

In the games where he thinks he's the same guy he was in 2021 he has sabotaged us.

What he's supposed to take 5 shots in games where Giannis and Dame aren't playing?

Number of shots isn't a huge deal.

But Middleton needs to have the ball in his hands less and when he does have the ball in his hands, look to make a play more often than trying to get your own shot.

These last 2 games Middleton had the ball in his hands way too much in the 4th and it was a big reason why we lost both games.

The 2025 version of Middleton needs to play off of his teammates to get his offense, he's not the same guy he was in 2021 were he can consistently get his own shot. If he tries to be the 2021 version of himself he's going to be a negative.

If Middleton plays off of his teammates and ends up shooting the ball 20 times I have no issue with that, he can still be a scorer and a positive factor.

That said, I will take these last few games with a grain of salt since we didn't have Giannis out there.

Thank you... this has been an issue for several years now

[Fotis St]

Down the stretch Brook Khris Pat only care about how to spend their fat checks. They are wealthy and they just don't care about Bucks nation any more.
Unfortunately Doc Rivers is the one who didn't let Jimmy Butler lead the Sixers and kept Ben Simmons handling the ball.... Well we just saw Khris playing point guard and Dame Lillard at the wing ... Doc please adapt early ... Give the keys of the team to Lillard ... Especially when Giannis is not playing... Don't do the Jimmy mistake again.

[Sigra]

He's the same player at 22 as he was at 19, and will likely be pretty similar to this at 26. Fringe starter on mediocre teams.

He'll continue to do all the things he did last night. Fun passes, sloppy turnovers, hit the side of the backboard on a 3 attempt, make a wild runner, blow a defensive rotation.

Compare him to Haliburton and tell me what you got?

Put Giddey in this Pacers team insteed of Haliburton. Are they same? I think they are.

[ShootingtheJ]

What he's supposed to take 5 shots in games where Giannis and Dame aren't playing?

Number of shots isn't a huge deal.

But Middleton needs to have the ball in his hands less and when he does have the ball in his hands, look to make a play more often than trying to get your own shot.

These last 2 games Middleton had the ball in his hands way too much in the 4th and it was a big reason why we lost both games.

The 2025 version of Middleton needs to play off of his teammates to get his offense, he's not the same guy he was in 2021 were he can consistently get his own shot. If he tries to be the 2021 version of himself he's going to be a negative.

If Middleton plays off of his teammates and ends up shooting the ball 20 times I have no issue with that, he can still be a scorer and a positive factor.

That said, I will take these last few games with a grain of salt since we didn't have Giannis out there.

Thank you... this has been an issue for several years now

Middleton lead the NBA in mid range shooting last year, and his assist numbers have jumped this year.

[ShootingtheJ]

He's the same player at 22 as he was at 19, and will likely be pretty similar to this at 26. Fringe starter on mediocre teams.

He'll continue to do all the things he did last night. Fun passes, sloppy turnovers, hit the side of the backboard on a 3 attempt, make a wild runner, blow a defensive rotation.

Compare him to Haliburton and tell me what you got?

Put Giddey in this Pacers team insteed of Haliburton. Are they same? I think they are.

Haliburton was more VORP last season than Giddey has for his career. No comparison. This season? Haliburton is a massively distracted party boy.

[blazza18]

Down the stretch Brook Khris Pat only care about how to spend their fat checks. They are wealthy and they just don't care about Bucks nation any more.
Unfortunately Doc Rivers is the one who didn't let Jimmy Butler lead the Sixers and kept Ben Simmons handling the ball.... Well we just saw Khris playing point guard and Dame Lillard at the wing ... Doc please adapt early ... Give the keys of the team to Lillard ... Especially when Giannis is not playing... Don't do the Jimmy mistake again.

Doc never coached Jimmy.

[Ron Swanson]

At the end of the day this was another wasted opportunity with a winnable game against a bad team. The disastrous start, losing 4 of 6 against two teams in the Flagg sweepstakes, and early season load management have resulted once again in this team likely having to dig themselves out of a hole for the next three quarters of the season. Really thought a full offseason would benefit this squad and that they'd come out swinging to start the year. But maybe I should just resign myself to the fact that the days of challenging for the top-seed and giving even the tiniest of **** about the regular season are over, because we've now become a culture/infrastructure deficient organization.