Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread

[Papi_swav]

Ace looks like the guy for me, Harper too. Flagg seems like a great all around player but i dont see him as a superstar that would take over games and get you a bucket in crunch time. It seems like he's better playing in the flow of the game IMO

[Decipher]

Read on Twitter

Did the Lakers a massive favour

[ecuhus1981]

That's for sure, Decipher. Lakers fans are saying this is merely a payroll deal, they don't know how much DFS is going to improve them.

He immediately becomes their primary perimeter defender in the 1st unit, so they don't need to over utilize Max Christie.

His advanced metrics suggest this is a career season for Doe, his improved 3pt% will help keep some attention off of Lebron and AD.

I don't like the return for Brooklyn. 1 heavily protected 1st and 2 efficient role players from Memphis is a better haul than this, we should have taken the rumored deal with the Grizzlies.

[Decipher]

The Lakers got the 2 best players in the deal (on current form/fit) and saved money

I preferred the Memphis deal as well but Marks obviously doesn’t want any more salary on the books for next season

[vincecarter4pres]

I’m fine with the value here. Trading either of the Cam’s or Nic need to return significant value though.

[Karate Diop]

I’m fine with the value here. Trading either of the Cam’s or Nic need to return significant value though.

Same. I'm not entirely sure either gets moved though...

The team seems to have fallen in love with Cam and Claxton's value is down...

[Papi_swav]

this was a trash return. I'm not excited about Dlo coming back here. We should just flip him for a 2nd. He's not horrible but ehh been there done that, and he seems to be more of a distraction during his career.

[Netaman]

they have so many picks now, and had before these 2 trades, that holding out for crappy protection FRP's is kind of irrelevant. These trades were obviously to accelerate the tank. That is the draft value they are trying to gain via these trades.

i think they will treat camj/clax trades differently but who knows. something like firsts filler and kuminga for camj seems like a good move for all involved.

if Fox ends up on the outs with SAC, that's an interesting target to keep an eye on in the offseason.

im really excited to see how marks shapes the roster in the next 7-8 months. it's going to be a very busy time and a major transformation.

[vincecarter4pres]

this was a trash return. I'm not excited about Dlo coming back here. We should just flip him for a 2nd. He's not horrible but ehh been there done that, and he seems to be more of a distraction during his career.

To me the return was the 3 2nd’s and taking on no long term salary. DLo is a bonus if he can flipped for an uber late 1st or good value second and different expiring trash at the deadline.

[vincecarter4pres]

I’m fine with the value here. Trading either of the Cam’s or Nic need to return significant value though.

Same. I'm not entirely sure either gets moved though...

The team seems to have fallen in love with Cam and Claxton's value is down...

Yeah I’d agree. More likely Cam J is moved only if the return is truly substantial, and even then more probable on draft night.

Cam T is kind of a move him now or never piece, but unlikely because of his injury and looming free agency.

[Wisedude]

Cam Johnson and his agent have most likely already requested a trade. The trade returns on Dennis S. and DFS have not been what many here were talking about. No 1st round picks. The same will be true for Cam Johnson. Folks will be disappointed. Johnson's salary is much higher also. People will respond back that I will be wrong. These are the same people that expected much more for the other 2 players that were traded. So, who will be wrong. Wait and see. I expect Marks to not trade Johnson by the trade deadline unless the heat from Johnson's agent is too much that Mark's will have to take what he can get. Time will tell.

[76ciology]

I think the new CBA has significantly reduced the value of players like DFS and Cam Johnson. Under the current system, they seem more like $8M-per-year players.

As for Cam Thomas, I see the Nets taking a similar approach to what the Rockets did with Jalen Green. They might offer Cam a similar contract to Jalen Green, a 3-year, $108M-ish contract with a 10% trade kicker (which incentives the player too). The deal could also include a player option in the third year, allowing Cam to opt out if he performs well and pursue a higher contract. If not, then its an easy contract to dispose.

[vincecarter4pres]

Cam Johnson and his agent have most likely already requested a trade. The trade returns on Dennis S. and DFS have not been what many here were talking about. No 1st round picks. The same will be true for Cam Johnson. Folks will be disappointed. Johnson's salary is much higher also. People will respond back that I will be wrong. These are the same people that expected much more for the other 2 players that were traded. So, who will be wrong. Wait and see. I expect Marks to not trade Johnson by the trade deadline unless the heat from Johnson's agent is too much that Mark's will have to take what he can get. Time will tell.

I didn’t think Schröder or DFS would bring back
much of ****, but I do think Cam J will if he’s even moved.

[vincecarter4pres]

I think the new CBA has significantly reduced the value of players like DFS and Cam Johnson. Under the current system, they seem more like $8M-per-year players.

As for Cam Thomas, I see the Nets taking a similar approach to what the Rockets did with Jalen Green. They might offer Cam a similar contract to Jalen Green, a 3-year, $108M-ish contract with a 10% trade kicker (which incentives the player too). The deal could also include a player option in the third year, allowing Cam to opt out if he performs well and pursue a higher contract. If not, then its an easy contract to dispose.

Cam Johnson an $8 mill a year player? Where? In the Big3?

[Netaman]

non-net fans seem so butt hurt by showing their asses on the Bridges trade, that they are sledgehammering the value of every following trade to double down and "be right".

the rental vets (schroder/dfs) this year were always likely to have comparable value to Royce at last year's deadline (or crowder the year prior). minimal. that was obvious. and even still there were some weak protection 1sts at least discussed via Mem. If the Nets wanted to hold out for slightly more than they got it's possible they could have gotten someone like JHS or Carter (sac) but there was no reason to hold out for those guys with the lotto odds getting worse every day. the 2025 draft picks are their main motivating factor - as they should be.

CamJ (and Clax) are different. the same motivations are in play, but they are younger and aren't rentals. they aren't Bridges but they aren't going to get dealt without something of interest coming back. If they didn't value a crappy protection FRP from MEM for DFS, I doubt that gets it done for either of CamJ/Clax. They don't need to trade either one, though I suspect they do.

I think a Kuminga or Podz + picks deal for CamJ makes sense for both sides. Also possible there are other teams with similar offerings. Thunder can obviously put together a nice package. I'd like to get the most favorable 2026 pick they own of theirs/LAC/HOU, which would presumably be LAC in middle of round but could easily end up in lotto if they implode. They'd probably need to include at least 1 interesting body like Isaiah Joe for salary match.

[vincecarter4pres]

One has to wonder that if a “low cost” move for Fox pops up as a last second deadline deal if the Nets move on it?

Something like an all players and one or two pick kind of deal, such as:

Cam Johnson
Cam Thomas
Nic Claxton
Worst of ‘25 1sts(or maybe worst two)

For

Fox

I mean would it mess the tank up that much if we’re still in the 4th to 6th worst record slot, and only 29 playable games left for Fox and a barren roster to complete the season?


Sacramento isn’t going to necessarily look to blow it up just because they’re trading Fox.

[Netaman]

One has to wonder that if a “low cost” move for Fox pops up as a last second deadline deal if the Nets move on it?

Something like an all players and one or two pick kind of deal, such as:

Cam Johnson
Cam Thomas
Nic Claxton
Worst of ‘25 1sts(or maybe worst two)

For

Fox

I mean would it mess the tank up that much if we’re still in the 4th to 6th worst record slot, and only 29 playable games left for Fox and a barren roster to complete the season?


Sacramento isn’t going to necessarily look to blow it up just because they’re trading Fox.

Have a feeling SAC is going to give it 1 last run with Fox before bailing. If they do bail that feels more like an offseason trade.

Something around CamT+picks for Fox makes a lot of sense.

Especially if 1 of those picks is a fully unprotected 2026 SAC FRP acquired for CamJ.

I haven't investigated every interested team but of those i've looked at the 2026 SAC FRP is probably my favorite single asset to try to get even if it requires dealing them a 2025 FRP to be compliant.

[vincecarter4pres]

One has to wonder that if a “low cost” move for Fox pops up as a last second deadline deal if the Nets move on it?

Something like an all players and one or two pick kind of deal, such as:

Cam Johnson
Cam Thomas
Nic Claxton
Worst of ‘25 1sts(or maybe worst two)

For

Fox

I mean would it mess the tank up that much if we’re still in the 4th to 6th worst record slot, and only 29 playable games left for Fox and a barren roster to complete the season?


Sacramento isn’t going to necessarily look to blow it up just because they’re trading Fox.

Have a feeling SAC is going to give it 1 last run with Fox before bailing. If they do bail that feels more like an offseason trade.

Something around CamT+picks for Fox makes a lot of sense.

Especially if 1 of those picks is a fully unprotected 2026 SAC FRP acquired for CamJ.

I haven't investigated every interested team but of those i've looked at the 2026 SAC FRP is probably my favorite single asset to try to get even if it requires dealing them a 2025 FRP to be compliant.

How do we feel about the following?

How does Sacramento feel?

Cam Johnson
Cam Thomas
Worst or second worst ‘25 1st

Keegan Murray
Kevin Huerter
‘26 unprotected Sacto 1st

[Netaman]

One has to wonder that if a “low cost” move for Fox pops up as a last second deadline deal if the Nets move on it?

Something like an all players and one or two pick kind of deal, such as:

Cam Johnson
Cam Thomas
Nic Claxton
Worst of ‘25 1sts(or maybe worst two)

For

Fox

I mean would it mess the tank up that much if we’re still in the 4th to 6th worst record slot, and only 29 playable games left for Fox and a barren roster to complete the season?


Sacramento isn’t going to necessarily look to blow it up just because they’re trading Fox.

Have a feeling SAC is going to give it 1 last run with Fox before bailing. If they do bail that feels more like an offseason trade.

Something around CamT+picks for Fox makes a lot of sense.

Especially if 1 of those picks is a fully unprotected 2026 SAC FRP acquired for CamJ.

I haven't investigated every interested team but of those i've looked at the 2026 SAC FRP is probably my favorite single asset to try to get even if it requires dealing them a 2025 FRP to be compliant.

How do we feel about the following?

How does Sacramento feel?

Cam Johnson
Cam Thomas
Worst or second worst ‘25 1st

Keegan Murray
Kevin Huerter
‘26 unprotected Sacto 1st

would imagine they see dealing murray as counterproductive. maybe if it were clax if they really like him and not camt but that's probably too much salary?

i think the simple move is camj + worst '25 for unprotected 26 plus some other protected future FRP that's not as good if nets have to take back huerter's $.

[vincecarter4pres]

Have a feeling SAC is going to give it 1 last run with Fox before bailing. If they do bail that feels more like an offseason trade.

Something around CamT+picks for Fox makes a lot of sense.

Especially if 1 of those picks is a fully unprotected 2026 SAC FRP acquired for CamJ.

I haven't investigated every interested team but of those i've looked at the 2026 SAC FRP is probably my favorite single asset to try to get even if it requires dealing them a 2025 FRP to be compliant.

How do we feel about the following?

How does Sacramento feel?

Cam Johnson
Cam Thomas
Worst or second worst ‘25 1st

Keegan Murray
Kevin Huerter
‘26 unprotected Sacto 1st

would imagine they see dealing murray as counterproductive. maybe if it were clax if they really like him and not camt but that's probably too much salary?

i think the simple move is camj + worst '25 for unprotected 26 plus some other protected future FRP that's not as good if nets have to take back huerter's $.

I’m actually hoping for something like:

Isaiah Joe
Best of their ‘25 1sts
Best or second best of their ‘26 1sts

For

Cam J
Worst of our ‘25 1sts