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SomeBunghole wrote:MrGoat wrote:Even back in my day you'd be hearing worse in the elementary schools,
Not in any classrooms I've taught at, and I'm pretty sure not in any my friends teach in.
Maybe this is my suburbia bias, but I'm pretty sure elementary school kids don't just cuss away in class while the teacher ignores it.
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bisme37 wrote:This is the oldest man thing I've said in at least a day but Edwards has little kid Wolves fans idolizing him and I wouldn't want my 6 year old watching that and then dropping F bombs for the rest of his childhood.
MrGoat wrote:Of course we didn't do it in front of the teachers, that would get you into trouble, but when they're talking with each other...
BrianInPhilly wrote:If it's 1 curse word I think it is absolutely ridiculous to fine a player .... Now context matters - If a guy is on a profanity-filled rant criticizing an opposing player or ref postgame that's different. The "professional setting" argument is BS for a couple reasons - 1 being yes it's a business but it's not some corporate meeting in an office building, it's a physical demanding sport and emotions run high. You also wouldn't hit a guy in an office building in the arm to foul him but you do in basketball; it's a totally different environment ... and 2 - Do professional people not curse? I work in an office setting, not to corporate but still professional none-theless, and have had bosses routinely throw in the F word in meetings and noone bats an eye. Can't imagine 1 of them getting fined for that. That is ridiculous.
Common dude, try to see the bigger picture. 
Onlytimewilltel wrote:BrianInPhilly wrote:If it's 1 curse word I think it is absolutely ridiculous to fine a player .... Now context matters - If a guy is on a profanity-filled rant criticizing an opposing player or ref postgame that's different. The "professional setting" argument is BS for a couple reasons - 1 being yes it's a business but it's not some corporate meeting in an office building, it's a physical demanding sport and emotions run high. You also wouldn't hit a guy in an office building in the arm to foul him but you do in basketball; it's a totally different environment ... and 2 - Do professional people not curse? I work in an office setting, not to corporate but still professional none-theless, and have had bosses routinely throw in the F word in meetings and noone bats an eye. Can't imagine 1 of them getting fined for that. That is ridiculous.
And if their 5 and 6 year old kids were sitting in those meetings watching, would the bosses still routinely throw in the F words? And if your 5 and 6 year old kids were in those meetings, would you be ok with the F words bomb brigades in the meetings?
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Comparing our professional work settings to pro athletes is kinda silly.
That being said... branding is very important for pro sports leagues. And if they don't want pro athletes cussing... then, they need to find a way to curb it. A $100k fine is one of the larger fines we're going to see. Edwards will probably take the hint eventually.
Heck, considering the league only fines players $2k for flopping, $2k for flagrant fouls, $4k for ejections, et al... it seems that they are serious about this issue compared to any of those.
Maybe a more interesting angle is the amount of fines for the same issue. For example, Edwards was also fined $75k earlier this week for ripping officials. The largest fine for such an offense since his teammate, Rudy Gobert, was hit with a $100k fine last year. Others have been fined as little as $25k.
For what it's worth... Edwards has now been fined $224,000 so far this season.
bisme37 wrote:This is the oldest man thing I've said in at least a day but Edwards has little kid Wolves fans idolizing him and I wouldn't want my 6 year old watching that and then dropping F bombs for the rest of his childhood.
NZB2323 wrote:You don’t curse while on TV.
All these people saying, “people at my work curse,” if they were being interviewed on national TV representing their company, they would not curse. Especially if part of their companies consumers are children and children were watching their TV interview. And if they did, they would get in big trouble.
It’s not that hard to substitute words, “so I was like, shoot man, screw it.”
Players who get paid millions of dollars to play in the NBA can learn how to substitute words while doing national TV.
dhsilv2 wrote:AbeVigodaLive wrote:Comparing our professional work settings to pro athletes is kinda silly.
That being said... branding is very important for pro sports leagues. And if they don't want pro athletes cussing... then, they need to find a way to curb it. A $100k fine is one of the larger fines we're going to see. Edwards will probably take the hint eventually.
Heck, considering the league only fines players $2k for flopping, $2k for flagrant fouls, $4k for ejections, et al... it seems that they are serious about this issue compared to any of those.
Maybe a more interesting angle is the amount of fines for the same issue. For example, Edwards was also fined $75k earlier this week for ripping officials. The largest fine for such an offense since his teammate, Rudy Gobert, was hit with a $100k fine last year. Others have been fined as little as $25k.
For what it's worth... Edwards has now been fined $224,000 so far this season.
I think the comp is reasonable with some context. If he yelled something to a ref or another player...that's whatever. But when you're being interviewed and have a mic, you should be able to control yourself there.
AbeVigodaLive wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:AbeVigodaLive wrote:Comparing our professional work settings to pro athletes is kinda silly.
That being said... branding is very important for pro sports leagues. And if they don't want pro athletes cussing... then, they need to find a way to curb it. A $100k fine is one of the larger fines we're going to see. Edwards will probably take the hint eventually.
Heck, considering the league only fines players $2k for flopping, $2k for flagrant fouls, $4k for ejections, et al... it seems that they are serious about this issue compared to any of those.
Maybe a more interesting angle is the amount of fines for the same issue. For example, Edwards was also fined $75k earlier this week for ripping officials. The largest fine for such an offense since his teammate, Rudy Gobert, was hit with a $100k fine last year. Others have been fined as little as $25k.
For what it's worth... Edwards has now been fined $224,000 so far this season.
I think the comp is reasonable with some context. If he yelled something to a ref or another player...that's whatever. But when you're being interviewed and have a mic, you should be able to control yourself there.
I'm not saying he shouldn't be able to control it.
Only that any professional office setting is light years away from a pro sports setting... and it's a huge reach to compare the two in any way.
D.Brasco wrote:NZB2323 wrote:You don’t curse while on TV.
All these people saying, “people at my work curse,” if they were being interviewed on national TV representing their company, they would not curse. Especially if part of their companies consumers are children and children were watching their TV interview. And if they did, they would get in big trouble.
It’s not that hard to substitute words, “so I was like, shoot man, screw it.”
Players who get paid millions of dollars to play in the NBA can learn how to substitute words while doing national TV.
This, is what a few here are missing. Ant is being interviewed by media as a representative of his team and the greater league as a whole.
If for some reason I was interviewed by media representing my profession or company, no, I wouldn't throw in random s*** and f*** man, in a TV interview like I was if I was having beers with friends.
Appropriate time and place does not equal censorship.
dhsilv2 wrote:AbeVigodaLive wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:
I think the comp is reasonable with some context. If he yelled something to a ref or another player...that's whatever. But when you're being interviewed and have a mic, you should be able to control yourself there.
I'm not saying he shouldn't be able to control it.
Only that any professional office setting is light years away from a pro sports setting... and it's a huge reach to compare the two in any way.
A professional office setting should be much more casual than a live TV interview for a family friendly product. Just like if you work for a public company, your company's earnings call will be more formal than in someone's office where you might hear some F bombs if someone screws something up.
