The Brock Purdy Thread

[Big J]

Shoulda kept Darnold. He's lightyears better at this point.

[Pattersonca65]

Shoulda kept Darnold. He's lightyears better at this point.

Sure he is dimwit. He would be road kill behind the 49ers oline

[zman1]

Shoulda kept Darnold. He's lightyears better at this point.

You giving up on Trey Lance already?

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[thesack12]

Shoulda kept Darnold. He's lightyears better at this point.

This is quite ironic on a couple different levels.

1) We aren't real far removed from you not being able to stand Darnold, and calling him trash because he was ahead of Lance on the depth chart.

2) You insist on giving Darnold flowers, while downgrading Purdy due to his situation saying he's solely a product of system/team mates, etc. Well apparently you aren't paying any attention to what the situation is in Minnesota.

Darnold was easily among the worst starting QB's in the NFL while he was in New York and Carolina, and his overall teams were trash.

In Minnesota he has the luxury of:

A young, very bright and promising offensive minded head coach.
Benefits from having the 4th best defense in the NFL in points allowed.
Benefits from his defense forcing the most turnovers in the NFL.
Throws to literally the best WR in the league in Jefferson
Has a damn good WR2, easily among the best WR2's in the league in Addison
Has a legit top 5 TE in Hockenson
Plays behind a top 10 ranked O-line

Only thing Minnesota doesn't excel in is the run game, but they aren't terrible there as they are 18th.

In other words, Darnold's deck is stacked. But yet again, you refuse to be consistent with your own self induced metrics.

Your view is: Darnold is amazing but not because of Minnesota's top notch situation. Whereas Purdy is solely a product of SF's system.

Got it... well at least I got it until, you inevitably move the goal posts yet again.

[Big J]

Shoulda kept Darnold. He's lightyears better at this point.

This is quite ironic on a couple different levels.

1) We aren't real far removed from you not being able to stand Darnold, and calling him trash because he was ahead of Lance on the depth chart.

2) You insist on giving Darnold flowers, while downgrading Purdy due to his situation saying he's solely a product of system/team mates, etc. Well apparently you aren't paying any attention to what the situation is in Minnesota.

Darnold was easily among the worst starting QB's in the NFL while he was in New York and Carolina, and his overall teams were trash.

In Minnesota he has the luxury of:

A young, very bright and promising offensive minded head coach.
Benefits from having the 4th best defense in the NFL in points allowed.
Benefits from his defense forcing the most turnovers in the NFL.
Throws to literally the best WR in the league in Jefferson
Has a damn good WR2, easily among the best WR2's in the league in Addison
Has a legit top 5 TE in Hockenson
Plays behind a top 10 ranked O-line

Only thing Minnesota doesn't excel in is the run game, but they aren't terrible there as they are 18th.

In other words, Darnold's deck is stacked. But yet again, you refuse to be consistent with your own self induced metrics.

Your view is: Darnold is amazing but not because of Minnesota's top notch situation. Whereas Purdy is solely a product of SF's system.

Got it... well at least I got it until, you inevitably move the goal posts yet again.

This is easy to explain. The Vikings were 7-10 the year before Darnold joined them. The big change they had in the offseason? QB.
Niners were a perennial Super Bowl contender prior to Purdy starting and CMC joining. Jimmy, who everyone here says sucks was 1 play from winning a ring with that cast. This year when we take away 2/4ths of the avengers Purdy looks like a mid tier QB.

[CrimsonCrew]

Shoulda kept Darnold. He's lightyears better at this point.

This is quite ironic on a couple different levels.

1) We aren't real far removed from you not being able to stand Darnold, and calling him trash because he was ahead of Lance on the depth chart.

2) You insist on giving Darnold flowers, while downgrading Purdy due to his situation saying he's solely a product of system/team mates, etc. Well apparently you aren't paying any attention to what the situation is in Minnesota.

Darnold was easily among the worst starting QB's in the NFL while he was in New York and Carolina, and his overall teams were trash.

In Minnesota he has the luxury of:

A young, very bright and promising offensive minded head coach.
Benefits from having the 4th best defense in the NFL in points allowed.
Benefits from his defense forcing the most turnovers in the NFL.
Throws to literally the best WR in the league in Jefferson
Has a damn good WR2, easily among the best WR2's in the league in Addison
Has a legit top 5 TE in Hockenson
Plays behind a top 10 ranked O-line

Only thing Minnesota doesn't excel in is the run game, but they aren't terrible there as they are 18th.

In other words, Darnold's deck is stacked. But yet again, you refuse to be consistent with your own self induced metrics.

Your view is: Darnold is amazing but not because of Minnesota's top notch situation. Whereas Purdy is solely a product of SF's system.

Got it... well at least I got it until, you inevitably move the goal posts yet again.

This is easy to explain. The Vikings were 7-10 the year before Darnold joined them. The big change they had in the offseason? QB.
Niners were a perennial Super Bowl contender prior to Purdy starting and CMC joining. Jimmy, who everyone here says sucks was 1 play from winning a ring with that cast. This year when we take away 2/4ths of the avengers Purdy looks like a mid tier QB.

Little bit of cherry-picking there. The Vikings were 13-4 in 2022. In 2023, Cousins got injured and they went 7-10. Cousins went 4-4 to start 2022, but they scored 17+ points in every game, and 20+ points in three of four losses. They beat us and the Packers with Cousins playing. But they went 1-7 down the stretch (including in the soft part of their schedule) with shaky QB play and a defense that struggled more and more as the season progressed.

This year's team looks a lot like that 2022 13-4 team. Given that, it's hard to put it all on Darnold IMO. He's played well. Is he head-and-shoulders above Purdy? Let's see him start a playoff game before we decide.

[Big J]

This is quite ironic on a couple different levels.

1) We aren't real far removed from you not being able to stand Darnold, and calling him trash because he was ahead of Lance on the depth chart.

2) You insist on giving Darnold flowers, while downgrading Purdy due to his situation saying he's solely a product of system/team mates, etc. Well apparently you aren't paying any attention to what the situation is in Minnesota.

Darnold was easily among the worst starting QB's in the NFL while he was in New York and Carolina, and his overall teams were trash.

In Minnesota he has the luxury of:

A young, very bright and promising offensive minded head coach.
Benefits from having the 4th best defense in the NFL in points allowed.
Benefits from his defense forcing the most turnovers in the NFL.
Throws to literally the best WR in the league in Jefferson
Has a damn good WR2, easily among the best WR2's in the league in Addison
Has a legit top 5 TE in Hockenson
Plays behind a top 10 ranked O-line

Only thing Minnesota doesn't excel in is the run game, but they aren't terrible there as they are 18th.

In other words, Darnold's deck is stacked. But yet again, you refuse to be consistent with your own self induced metrics.

Your view is: Darnold is amazing but not because of Minnesota's top notch situation. Whereas Purdy is solely a product of SF's system.

Got it... well at least I got it until, you inevitably move the goal posts yet again.

This is easy to explain. The Vikings were 7-10 the year before Darnold joined them. The big change they had in the offseason? QB.
Niners were a perennial Super Bowl contender prior to Purdy starting and CMC joining. Jimmy, who everyone here says sucks was 1 play from winning a ring with that cast. This year when we take away 2/4ths of the avengers Purdy looks like a mid tier QB.

Little bit of cherry-picking there. The Vikings were 13-4 in 2022. In 2023, Cousins got injured and they went 7-10. Cousins went 4-4 to start 2022, but they scored 17+ points in every game, and 20+ points in three of four losses. They beat us and the Packers with Cousins playing. But they went 1-7 down the stretch (including in the soft part of their schedule) with shaky QB play and a defense that struggled more and more as the season progressed.

This year's team looks a lot like that 2022 13-4 team. Given that, it's hard to put it all on Darnold IMO. He's played well. Is he head-and-shoulders above Purdy? Let's see him start a playoff game before we decide.

That 2022 Vikings team were the biggest frauds ever. 11 of their 13 wins were within 1 score, and they didn't have a single 1 score loss until the playoffs. Literally everyone was calling them out as frauds, and they proved that in the first round when they lost to the Daniel Jones Giants.

[Pattersonca65]

Shoulda kept Darnold. He's lightyears better at this point.

This is quite ironic on a couple different levels.

1) We aren't real far removed from you not being able to stand Darnold, and calling him trash because he was ahead of Lance on the depth chart.

2) You insist on giving Darnold flowers, while downgrading Purdy due to his situation saying he's solely a product of system/team mates, etc. Well apparently you aren't paying any attention to what the situation is in Minnesota.

Darnold was easily among the worst starting QB's in the NFL while he was in New York and Carolina, and his overall teams were trash.

In Minnesota he has the luxury of:

A young, very bright and promising offensive minded head coach.
Benefits from having the 4th best defense in the NFL in points allowed.
Benefits from his defense forcing the most turnovers in the NFL.
Throws to literally the best WR in the league in Jefferson
Has a damn good WR2, easily among the best WR2's in the league in Addison
Has a legit top 5 TE in Hockenson
Plays behind a top 10 ranked O-line

Only thing Minnesota doesn't excel in is the run game, but they aren't terrible there as they are 18th.

In other words, Darnold's deck is stacked. But yet again, you refuse to be consistent with your own self induced metrics.

Your view is: Darnold is amazing but not because of Minnesota's top notch situation. Whereas Purdy is solely a product of SF's system.

Got it... well at least I got it until, you inevitably move the goal posts yet again.

This is easy to explain. The Vikings were 7-10 the year before Darnold joined them. The big change they had in the offseason? QB.
Niners were a perennial Super Bowl contender prior to Purdy starting and CMC joining. Jimmy, who everyone here says sucks was 1 play from winning a ring with that cast. This year when we take away 2/4ths of the avengers Purdy looks like a mid tier QB.

LOL, did you even watch the game yesterday? You didn't. Not only does Darnold have good targets, he had ALLDAY to throw. He literally had over four seconds to throw on every play and had a clean pocket on every throw. Have him play behind the 49ers interior line and get some real pressure and see what Darnold does. Jimmy had a much better all around team than Purdy had. Jimmy's QB numbers bear that out which you always ignore. Can you come up with a better name than the Avengers? What are you 10 years old. And most of the WR cast has been missing this year. BA basically gone and Deebo has been a shell of his former self. The 49ers are on their fifth string RB. And comparison this year to Minnesota is laughable like the rest of your posts,

[Pattersonca65]

This is easy to explain. The Vikings were 7-10 the year before Darnold joined them. The big change they had in the offseason? QB.
Niners were a perennial Super Bowl contender prior to Purdy starting and CMC joining. Jimmy, who everyone here says sucks was 1 play from winning a ring with that cast. This year when we take away 2/4ths of the avengers Purdy looks like a mid tier QB.

Little bit of cherry-picking there. The Vikings were 13-4 in 2022. In 2023, Cousins got injured and they went 7-10. Cousins went 4-4 to start 2022, but they scored 17+ points in every game, and 20+ points in three of four losses. They beat us and the Packers with Cousins playing. But they went 1-7 down the stretch (including in the soft part of their schedule) with shaky QB play and a defense that struggled more and more as the season progressed.

This year's team looks a lot like that 2022 13-4 team. Given that, it's hard to put it all on Darnold IMO. He's played well. Is he head-and-shoulders above Purdy? Let's see him start a playoff game before we decide.

That 2022 Vikings team were the biggest frauds ever. 11 of their 13 wins were within 1 score, and they didn't have a single 1 score loss until the playoffs. Literally everyone was calling them out as frauds, and they proved that in the first round when they lost to the Daniel Jones Giants.

Moving the goal posts again

[CrimsonCrew]

This is easy to explain. The Vikings were 7-10 the year before Darnold joined them. The big change they had in the offseason? QB.
Niners were a perennial Super Bowl contender prior to Purdy starting and CMC joining. Jimmy, who everyone here says sucks was 1 play from winning a ring with that cast. This year when we take away 2/4ths of the avengers Purdy looks like a mid tier QB.

Little bit of cherry-picking there. The Vikings were 13-4 in 2022. In 2023, Cousins got injured and they went 7-10. Cousins went 4-4 to start 2022, but they scored 17+ points in every game, and 20+ points in three of four losses. They beat us and the Packers with Cousins playing. But they went 1-7 down the stretch (including in the soft part of their schedule) with shaky QB play and a defense that struggled more and more as the season progressed.

This year's team looks a lot like that 2022 13-4 team. Given that, it's hard to put it all on Darnold IMO. He's played well. Is he head-and-shoulders above Purdy? Let's see him start a playoff game before we decide.

That 2022 Vikings team were the biggest frauds ever. 11 of their 13 wins were within 1 score, and they didn't have a single 1 score loss until the playoffs. Literally everyone was calling them out as frauds, and they proved that in the first round when they lost to the Daniel Jones Giants.

This year's Chiefs have 11 wins in one-score games (including one eight-point win). All I've heard from you is how great they are.

And again, let's see what this year's Vikings do in the playoffs before we make any final judgments on Darnold's season.

[Big J]

Little bit of cherry-picking there. The Vikings were 13-4 in 2022. In 2023, Cousins got injured and they went 7-10. Cousins went 4-4 to start 2022, but they scored 17+ points in every game, and 20+ points in three of four losses. They beat us and the Packers with Cousins playing. But they went 1-7 down the stretch (including in the soft part of their schedule) with shaky QB play and a defense that struggled more and more as the season progressed.

This year's team looks a lot like that 2022 13-4 team. Given that, it's hard to put it all on Darnold IMO. He's played well. Is he head-and-shoulders above Purdy? Let's see him start a playoff game before we decide.

That 2022 Vikings team were the biggest frauds ever. 11 of their 13 wins were within 1 score, and they didn't have a single 1 score loss until the playoffs. Literally everyone was calling them out as frauds, and they proved that in the first round when they lost to the Daniel Jones Giants.

This year's Chiefs have 11 wins in one-score games (including one eight-point win). All I've heard from you is how great they are.

And again, let's see what this year's Vikings do in the playoffs before we make any final judgments on Darnold's season.

Right, but the Chiefs are 3 time SB champions. They have already proven they aren't frauds. Kirk Cousins has been a fraud his entire career. He always chokes in prime time.

[CrimsonCrew]

That 2022 Vikings team were the biggest frauds ever. 11 of their 13 wins were within 1 score, and they didn't have a single 1 score loss until the playoffs. Literally everyone was calling them out as frauds, and they proved that in the first round when they lost to the Daniel Jones Giants.

This year's Chiefs have 11 wins in one-score games (including one eight-point win). All I've heard from you is how great they are.

And again, let's see what this year's Vikings do in the playoffs before we make any final judgments on Darnold's season.

Right, but the Chiefs are 3 time SB champions. They have already proven they aren't frauds. Kirk Cousins has been a fraud his entire career. He always chokes in prime time.

Yeah, I don't disagree with a lot of what you've said here. But you seem to be anointing Darnold before he's ever started a playoff game. Why? Hard to read it as anything but a knock on Purdy, and in that sense, it's awfully unsubstantiated at this point.

Sure, this regular season Darnold has been statistically better, with a much higher-performing supporting cast in terms of OL, skill players, and defense. And clearly he has a bigger arm. Does that make him clearly superior to Purdy, who is 4-1 in the playoffs (not counting the Philly game)? I don't think so at this point. To a point made above, I think Darnold would be struggling behind this OL, throwing to these WRs, and playing opposite this defense.

[Big J]

This year's Chiefs have 11 wins in one-score games (including one eight-point win). All I've heard from you is how great they are.

And again, let's see what this year's Vikings do in the playoffs before we make any final judgments on Darnold's season.

Right, but the Chiefs are 3 time SB champions. They have already proven they aren't frauds. Kirk Cousins has been a fraud his entire career. He always chokes in prime time.

Yeah, I don't disagree with a lot of what you've said here. But you seem to be anointing Darnold before he's ever started a playoff game. Why? Hard to read it as anything but a knock on Purdy, and in that sense, it's awfully unsubstantiated at this point.

Sure, this regular season Darnold has been statistically better, with a much higher-performing supporting cast in terms of OL, skill players, and defense. And clearly he has a bigger arm. Does that make him clearly superior to Purdy, who is 4-1 in the playoffs (not counting the Philly game)? I don't think so at this point. To a point made above, I think Darnold would be struggling behind this OL, throwing to these WRs, and playing opposite this defense.

Darnold has the pedigree though. He's big, he's thick, he's strong, he has a big arm. When you look at him he looks like a prototypical QB. It's why he was drafted 3rd overall. He's had to endure some terrible situations. He would have killed to have Kyle Shanahan as his coach and Kittle, Deebo, & Trent by his side during his first couple of stops.

[thesack12]

Right, but the Chiefs are 3 time SB champions. They have already proven they aren't frauds. Kirk Cousins has been a fraud his entire career. He always chokes in prime time.

Yeah, I don't disagree with a lot of what you've said here. But you seem to be anointing Darnold before he's ever started a playoff game. Why? Hard to read it as anything but a knock on Purdy, and in that sense, it's awfully unsubstantiated at this point.

Sure, this regular season Darnold has been statistically better, with a much higher-performing supporting cast in terms of OL, skill players, and defense. And clearly he has a bigger arm. Does that make him clearly superior to Purdy, who is 4-1 in the playoffs (not counting the Philly game)? I don't think so at this point. To a point made above, I think Darnold would be struggling behind this OL, throwing to these WRs, and playing opposite this defense.

Darnold has the pedigree though. He's big, he's thick, he's strong, he has a big arm. When you look at him he looks like a prototypical QB. It's why he was drafted 3rd overall. He's had to endure some terrible situations. He would have killed to have Kyle Shanahan as his coach and Kittle, Deebo, & Trent by his side during his first couple of stops.

Darnold had all that same "pedigree" while he was in New York, Carolina, and also while you hated him in San Francisco.

Then you go on to allude to situation/coaching/surrounding talent mattering in helping a QB succeed. Yet, somehow Purdy doesn't get that same consideration from you.

Keep on moving them goal posts, chief.

[CrimsonCrew]

Right, but the Chiefs are 3 time SB champions. They have already proven they aren't frauds. Kirk Cousins has been a fraud his entire career. He always chokes in prime time.

Yeah, I don't disagree with a lot of what you've said here. But you seem to be anointing Darnold before he's ever started a playoff game. Why? Hard to read it as anything but a knock on Purdy, and in that sense, it's awfully unsubstantiated at this point.

Sure, this regular season Darnold has been statistically better, with a much higher-performing supporting cast in terms of OL, skill players, and defense. And clearly he has a bigger arm. Does that make him clearly superior to Purdy, who is 4-1 in the playoffs (not counting the Philly game)? I don't think so at this point. To a point made above, I think Darnold would be struggling behind this OL, throwing to these WRs, and playing opposite this defense.

Darnold has the pedigree though. He's big, he's thick, he's strong, he has a big arm. When you look at him he looks like a prototypical QB. It's why he was drafted 3rd overall. He's had to endure some terrible situations. He would have killed to have Kyle Shanahan as his coach and Kittle, Deebo, & Trent by his side during his first couple of stops.

We're talking in circles, but Trey Lance looked like an NFL QB. He has been awful pretty much every time he set foot on an NFL field, except a decent game against the worst-in-the-league Texans.

The problem is that you make these benchmarks for Purdy, he clears them, you create new benchmarks, you express a preference for guys who have not hit even the initial benchmarks, etc., etc., etc. Cousins isn't good because he can't win a playoff game. But Darnold is good because...he looks the part, I guess? Darnold hasn't won a playoff game. Darnold sure hasn't played well without a really good supporting cast.

[CharityStripe34]

I'm in the pay Purdy $55 million a year camp just to see people crying about a billionaire's money.

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[Big J]

I'm in the pay Purdy $55 million a year camp just to see people crying about a billionaire's money.

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Seahawks & Rams fans are begging us to pay him that much. I've been seeing it all over twitter.

[clyde21]

I'm in the pay Purdy $55 million a year camp just to see people crying about a billionaire's money.

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nobody cares about a billionaires bank account but we care about the salary cap and using 50+ million a pop on a slightly above average QB.

[clyde21]

we need to trade for JJ McCarthy, this QB class is an absolute disaster and we need some type of back up plan here

[Big J]

we need to trade for JJ McCarthy, this QB class is an absolute disaster and we need some type of back up plan here

Agreed. I'd offer our first rounder for McCarthy tbh.