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Game 31: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024

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Game 31: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

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Re: Game 30: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

Post#2 » by JonFromVA » Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:54 pm

It's always hard to win in Denver, but if we manage the minutes hopefully we can deal with the altitude.
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Re: Game 30: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

Post#3 » by jbk1234 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:11 am

Niang is such a matchup dependant player.
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Re: Game 30: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

Post#4 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:44 am

Defense was not on the docket tonight but nothing like a W to start off the trip.
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Re: Game 31: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

Post#5 » by JonFromVA » Sat Dec 28, 2024 7:53 am

Yeah, Denver was incredibly efficient offensively, but when we're knocking down 3's like that it just doesn't matter.

We'll probably break the 50 3pt attempts in a game mark soon.
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Re: Game 31: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

Post#6 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:25 pm

JonFromVA wrote:Yeah, Denver was incredibly efficient offensively, but when we're knocking down 3's like that it just doesn't matter.

We'll probably break the 50 3pt attempts in a game mark soon.
They had 50 attempts from deep against the Wizards.
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Re: Game 31: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

Post#7 » by JonFromVA » Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:02 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:Yeah, Denver was incredibly efficient offensively, but when we're knocking down 3's like that it just doesn't matter.

We'll probably break the 50 3pt attempts in a game mark soon.
They had 50 attempts from deep against the Wizards.


Likely more on the way, but one of the cool things about this Cavs team is that you can rarely just point to one thing. It wasn't just that Braun and Murray aren't great perimeter defenders, it isn't just that Jokic camps in the paint, it wasn't just that Mitchell got hot.

This team just keeps pouring it on and even when we give up the lead, it's rare that we don't bounce right back with a big run of our own.
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Post#8 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:28 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
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JonFromVA wrote:Yeah, Denver was incredibly efficient offensively, but when we're knocking down 3's like that it just doesn't matter.

We'll probably break the 50 3pt attempts in a game mark soon.
They had 50 attempts from deep against the Wizards.


Likely more on the way, but one of the cool things about this Cavs team is that you can rarely just point to one thing. It wasn't just that Braun and Murray aren't great perimeter defenders, it isn't just that Jokic camps in the paint, it wasn't just that Mitchell got hot.

This team just keeps pouring it on and even when we give up the lead, it's rare that we don't bounce right back with a big run of our own.
Yeah, the 2 wins against the Nuggets haven't been particularly close this season.

If a team is gonna allow the entire core 4 to get going, like last night, i truly do not believe a single team stands a chance.
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Re: Game 31: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

Post#9 » by jbk1234 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:42 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:They had 50 attempts from deep against the Wizards.


Likely more on the way, but one of the cool things about this Cavs team is that you can rarely just point to one thing. It wasn't just that Braun and Murray aren't great perimeter defenders, it isn't just that Jokic camps in the paint, it wasn't just that Mitchell got hot.

This team just keeps pouring it on and even when we give up the lead, it's rare that we don't bounce right back with a big run of our own.
Yeah, the 2 wins against the Nuggets haven't been particularly close this season.

If a team is gonna allow the entire core 4 to get going, like last night, i truly do not believe a single team stands a chance.


I like Malone as a coach, but Westbrook just has zero interest in navigating a PNR defensively. Garland got where ever he wanted last night. That forced help and opened up 3 point shooters (when Garland wasn't shooting uncontested floaters). The reality is we have to get through Boston which means the best defensive guard in the NBA will be on Garland.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: Game 31: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

Post#10 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:30 am

jbk1234 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
Likely more on the way, but one of the cool things about this Cavs team is that you can rarely just point to one thing. It wasn't just that Braun and Murray aren't great perimeter defenders, it isn't just that Jokic camps in the paint, it wasn't just that Mitchell got hot.

This team just keeps pouring it on and even when we give up the lead, it's rare that we don't bounce right back with a big run of our own.
Yeah, the 2 wins against the Nuggets haven't been particularly close this season.

If a team is gonna allow the entire core 4 to get going, like last night, i truly do not believe a single team stands a chance.


I like Malone as a coach, but Westbrook just has zero interest in navigating a PNR defensively. Garland got where ever he wanted last night. That forced help and opened up 3 point shooters (when Garland wasn't shooting uncontested floaters). The reality is we have to get through Boston which means the best defensive guard in the NBA will be on Garland.
Yeah, they're a tough team in a 7 game series. Lots of good switchable defenders.
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Re: Game 31: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

Post#11 » by JonFromVA » Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:31 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Yeah, the 2 wins against the Nuggets haven't been particularly close this season.

If a team is gonna allow the entire core 4 to get going, like last night, i truly do not believe a single team stands a chance.


I like Malone as a coach, but Westbrook just has zero interest in navigating a PNR defensively. Garland got where ever he wanted last night. That forced help and opened up 3 point shooters (when Garland wasn't shooting uncontested floaters). The reality is we have to get through Boston which means the best defensive guard in the NBA will be on Garland.
Yeah, they're a tough team in a 7 game series. Lots of good switchable defenders.


We can score on Boston, we just have to be healthy.
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Re: Game 31: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

Post#12 » by jbk1234 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:18 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
I like Malone as a coach, but Westbrook just has zero interest in navigating a PNR defensively. Garland got where ever he wanted last night. That forced help and opened up 3 point shooters (when Garland wasn't shooting uncontested floaters). The reality is we have to get through Boston which means the best defensive guard in the NBA will be on Garland.
Yeah, they're a tough team in a 7 game series. Lots of good switchable defenders.


We can score on Boston, we just have to be healthy.


If the Celtics assign Derrick White to Garland, the Cavs should give serious thought to having Mitchell assume more PG duties that series.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: Game 31: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

Post#13 » by JonFromVA » Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:02 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Yeah, they're a tough team in a 7 game series. Lots of good switchable defenders.


We can score on Boston, we just have to be healthy.


If the Celtics assign Derrick White to Garland, the Cavs should give serious thought to having Mitchell assume more PG duties that series.


They have that option, but Garland can also just blow past him and get in the paint. He just has to realize White can block him from behind if he's not careful.

If Garland and Mitchell aren't being overplayed or playing hurt, there's things they can do that nobody in the league can stop.
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Re: Game 31: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

Post#14 » by jbk1234 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:28 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
We can score on Boston, we just have to be healthy.


If the Celtics assign Derrick White to Garland, the Cavs should give serious thought to having Mitchell assume more PG duties that series.


They have that option, but Garland can also just blow past him and get in the paint. He just has to realize White can block him from behind if he's not careful.

If Garland and Mitchell aren't being overplayed or playing hurt, there's things they can do that nobody in the league can stop.


I'm probably Garland's biggest fan, but the Cavs should be prepared to run the offense through whoever Jrue Holiday is guarding. Derrick White is the best defensive guard in the NBA with a ridiculous wing-span. Putting White on the secondary ball handler is sub optimal from the Celtics perspective and either one of Garland or Mitchell can force him to stay home at the 3 point line. Force the other 4 guys to do the heavy lifting on defense.

What I saw in our first meeting was a team that studied Garland's tendencies and showed him the illusion of an opening when there was none due to White's ability to recover.
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Re: Game 31: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/27/2024 

Post#15 » by JonFromVA » Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:20 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
If the Celtics assign Derrick White to Garland, the Cavs should give serious thought to having Mitchell assume more PG duties that series.


They have that option, but Garland can also just blow past him and get in the paint. He just has to realize White can block him from behind if he's not careful.

If Garland and Mitchell aren't being overplayed or playing hurt, there's things they can do that nobody in the league can stop.


I'm probably Garland's biggest fan, but the Cavs should be prepared to run the offense through whoever Jrue Holiday is guarding. Derrick White is the best defensive guard in the NBA with a ridiculous wing-span. Putting White on the secondary ball handler is sub optimal from the Celtics perspective and either one of Garland or Mitchell can force him to stay home at the 3 point line. Force the other 4 guys to do the heavy lifting on defense.

What I saw in our first meeting was a team that studied Garland's tendencies and showed him the illusion of an opening when there was none due to White's ability to recover.


I don't expect a repeat of Garland's 3-21 turd.

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