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Parraknick wrote:2010 wrote:Should Josh Hart be in consideration for M.I.P.?
It’s a pretty hotly contested award atm.
I like Norm Powell / Herro. Jalen Johnson also close
HighRyzer83 wrote:RHODEY wrote:I know he's a statue, but for me Valanciunas made a strong case for himself if its true he can be had at a discount. Dude just knows how to play and would be huge for our bench.
Dude was only effective against the 6'8 Precious. Kat tooled him.
2010 wrote:Parraknick wrote:2010 wrote:Should Josh Hart be in consideration for M.I.P.?
It’s a pretty hotly contested award atm.
I like Norm Powell / Herro. Jalen Johnson also close
Oh yeah. Jalen Johnson has been having a really good breakout season. Him or Herro is likely the favorite.
I just wish there was some way Hart’s tremendous all-around game could be recognized.
Knick4Real wrote:TheDavinciCHODE wrote:yes baby, let's pad the wins against really bad teams and make us look better than we really are. End of January is when the schedule starts to get really tough, so I'll wait til then to pass judgement.
I'm happy we are winning, but can't get hyped about beating Washington twice.
Wins are wins, but let's just keep it chill. This is the worst team in the league.
No, let's NOT keep it chill!
Wins don't only count against the best in the league. ALL wins count, against both good AND bad teams. And home court advantage matters when teams win the most of their 82 games -- again, against both good AND bad teams.
After decades of dysfunction, we finally have a competent front office, a consistent coach, a team loaded with (possibly) multiple all-stars and (maybe) an MVP. We're a top 3 team in the east and finally an elite and respectable team in all of the NBA. That's worth celebrating.
Sure, we're beating teams we're supposed to beat. However, that's all part of the process. Don't discount it.
RIP mags
3toheadmelo wrote:GettinitDone wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:I apologize guys!!!
KAT is HIM and we won the trade!
The next day:
The audacity of you when you wrote a thesis on Cam Reddish being as talented as rookie Kobe
by GettinitDone » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:28 am
Offensively, he can shoot: catch and shoot, shoot off dribble (step back or step side), shoot turnaround fadeaways off the post. He's pretty much ambidextrous can go left as well as he can go right, can finish with either hand in the paint. He has nasty hesi and head fake and euro step moves. He knocks down free throws. He can pass at a high level, to backdoor cutters or kick out off penetration or alley oops off dribble. Since becoming an NBA fan in 1996, I can say Cam has one of the most diverse arrays of offensive moves I've seen from a player. Mark Jackson once commentated on a game saying Cam can do what others in blue and orange can't, or Mark Jones saying hes "so effortless".
Defensively, he's far and away the best on ball defender in the entire NBA. Watching Wiggins in Finals, I thought Cam can easily be even a better lockdown defensive specialist than Wiggins.
t's clear all you critical of Cam evaluate players based on what they've already accomplished. Well if this was 1997, you'd have a hard time choosing a teenage Kobe (averaged only 15mpg, 7.6ppg, shot 4 airballs in a playoffs elimination game) over a then more accomplished Eddie Jones (established starter, on verge of becoming All Star). But the real astute talent evaluator Jerry West chose Kobe over Eddie, traded EJ to clear up playing time and starting spot for Kobe). I started collecting Kobe cards as he was getting DNP-CDs or 3-5 mins garbage time while my friends were collecting their MJs, Hills, Pippens, Shaqs... and they would never understand why I'd collect a trash player whose only forte seemed to be a dunking showboat.
Btw, I hadn't collected any dang NBA card since Kobe RCs in 1997 and I started doing again for Cam RCs (getting them while cheap becoz he's still "trash"... easiest investment choice ever)
Can you evaluate talent not based on their accomplishments but based on what they've shown in the garbage minutes they're receiving?? That's hard.
I'll just let Cam's play in the season do the talking from here on out
Besart19 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I apologize guys!!!
KAT is HIM and we won the trade!
Jalen Bluntson wrote:Knick4Real wrote:TheDavinciCHODE wrote:yes baby, let's pad the wins against really bad teams and make us look better than we really are. End of January is when the schedule starts to get really tough, so I'll wait til then to pass judgement.
I'm happy we are winning, but can't get hyped about beating Washington twice.
Wins are wins, but let's just keep it chill. This is the worst team in the league.
No, let's NOT keep it chill!
Wins don't only count against the best in the league. ALL wins count, against both good AND bad teams. And home court advantage matters when teams win the most of their 82 games -- again, against both good AND bad teams.
After decades of dysfunction, we finally have a competent front office, a consistent coach, a team loaded with (possibly) multiple all-stars and (maybe) an MVP. We're a top 3 team in the east and finally an elite and respectable team in all of the NBA. That's worth celebrating.
Sure, we're beating teams we're supposed to beat. However, that's all part of the process. Don't discount it.
People can't let their guard down for some reason. We are not operating like the team did for 20 years before Leon. We are legit one of the best built teams with one of the best FO/HC tandems in the league yet, battered fan syndrome prevents people from enjoying the ride. They have to temper expectations for everyone.
Fuq that. We are just as good as any team in the league right now. Legit championship level team. We will see how close as the season progresses but, there is ZERO reason to "keep it chill". Enjoy the damn ride!! It's been 25 years since we were near a championship. I'm all in!
GettinitDone wrote:Regarding concern for our bench production, simply bench Josh, start Precious.
Josh fanboys would come with pitchforks but it's not "demotion" at all, he'll still play starter minutes, 30+mpg, likely to end up playing with starters too anyway... instantly boosts our bench production
Precious adds size to our SL, adds rebounding and paint protection... KAT is holding his own with rebounding, but you can tell he doesn't love being the last line of rebounding and defense, and would appreciate help from another capable big... plus Precious worked hard in the summer, added some shooting and ballhandling... he can absolutely play with and complement other starters
With Josh on the bench, Mikal gets to handle the ball more and get more playmaking duties... and he'll be more aggressive... I think we're a far better team with an aggressive Mikal scoring/ assisting (think of 22+ppg, 5apg) as good as Josh has been... Mikal standing waiting for scraps is just a waste of a lethal weapon.
3toheadmelo wrote:I apologize guys!!!
KAT is HIM and we won the trade!
3toheadmelo wrote:Worst_to_First wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:KAT > Randle thank you Leon!!
Best thing about this win.
I thought we were getting the Minny version of him who mainly just posted behind the 3 point line and jacked up 3’s but we instead got a 3 level scoring machine who’s unstoppable in the post, can pass, rebounding power house, and is a cheat code from 3. His defense is still sus at times but it’s been getting better. I’m satisfied!
Capn'O wrote:TheGreenArrow wrote:
Such a glorious day. Now if we can only get you off that crack that makes you slander Jalen...
Parraknick wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Worst_to_First wrote:
Best thing about this win.
I thought we were getting the Minny version of him who mainly just posted behind the 3 point line and jacked up 3’s but we instead got a 3 level scoring machine who’s unstoppable in the post, can pass, rebounding power house, and is a cheat code from 3. His defense is still sus at times but it’s been getting better. I’m satisfied!
It was pretty obvious to me that his recent years in Minnesota weren’t his best work because he wasn’t supported properly
3toheadmelo wrote:Worst_to_First wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:KAT > Randle thank you Leon!!
Best thing about this win.
I thought we were getting the Minny version of him who mainly just posted behind the 3 point line and jacked up 3’s but we instead got a 3 level scoring machine who’s unstoppable in the post, can pass, rebounding power house, and is a cheat code from 3. His defense is still sus at times but it’s been getting better. I’m satisfied!
