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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1821 » by Negrodamus » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:27 pm

I’d trade Embiid right now before McCain. He’s not a sure fire superstar, but trying to stack aging, injured stars around the final boss of injured stars doesn’t intrigue me.
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Post#1822 » by Iscull » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:08 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I’d trade Embiid right now before McCain. He’s not a sure fire superstar, but trying to stack aging, injured stars around the final boss of injured stars doesn’t intrigue me.


+1

I also don’t think we’d get that much in return for McCain. He’s worth more to us than getting an old 6th/7th man
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Post#1823 » by youngcrev » Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:31 pm

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youngcrev wrote:Just trying to come up with a McCain deal that I'd actually find intriguing:

Bones of a deal: Paul George/McCain for Kevin Durant (would require more players and looping in a 3rd team to make a legal deal between these 2 teams, but KD does make more than PG, so they can get around the aggregation part by making 2 separate deals on their end)

A lot of caveats here. KD would need to ask out with the Suns wanting to continue to be competitive for this to be viable. Need to find a 3rd team to eat a small amount of salary also.

I'd be worried about KD's health here, but that dude is still a killer.

Unrealistic as hell, but whatever


The Jared deals just make no sense for the team overall, and ones that may make sense are unlikely for reasons outside of Sixers control. Such as Durant needing to ask out and the Suns wanting George.

That pretty much is the problem for all the veteran superstar guys.... Even if they are unhappy... Would that team want George?

No young players makes sense to me. Like I've seen Coby White, intriguing, but I wouldn't make that trade for Jared and KJ for instance.


Herb Jones is really the only intriguing name I've heard mentioned. And even then, I'd rather overpay in picks if necessary if it meant keeping McCain.

I like Coby White, I just don't think he's a great fit with Maxey, and don't think he's good enough to give up McCain regardless.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1824 » by Negrodamus » Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:18 am

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Negrodamus wrote:I’d trade Embiid right now before McCain. He’s not a sure fire superstar, but trying to stack aging, injured stars around the final boss of injured stars doesn’t intrigue me.


+1

I also don’t think we’d get that much in return for McCain. He’s worth more to us than getting an old 6th/7th man


I’m not sure everyone on the board fully appreciates 15 ppg on 38% 3FG and 53% from 2FG over 20+ games as a rookie. He’s the real deal offensively.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1825 » by Iscull » Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:02 am

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Iscull wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I’d trade Embiid right now before McCain. He’s not a sure fire superstar, but trying to stack aging, injured stars around the final boss of injured stars doesn’t intrigue me.


+1

I also don’t think we’d get that much in return for McCain. He’s worth more to us than getting an old 6th/7th man


I’m not sure everyone on the board fully appreciates 15 ppg on 38% 3FG and 53% from 2FG over 20+ games as a rookie. He’s the real deal offensively.


He averaged almost as much as PG with more efficiency and less time on the court
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1826 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:33 am

Yeah, hold on to McCain. The meniscus injury is a little concerning, but he's going to be a damn good player in this league. Five years from now, he may be as good as Jalen Brunson. You don't let talent like that go. Not unless it's for a surefire upgrade.
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Post#1827 » by 76ciology » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:11 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Yeah, hold on to McCain. The meniscus injury is a little concerning, but he's going to be a damn good player in this league. Five years from now, he may be as good as Jalen Brunson. You don't let talent like that go. Not unless it's for a surefire upgrade.


Do you think teams have strong interest in Jared McCain?

I feel like Tre Mann, Colin Sexton, Jordan Clarkson or Cole Anthony could be more affordable alternatives.

Even if we were to trade him, I don’t think other teams value him as highly as we, the fans, do.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1828 » by NearingZero » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:25 am

76ciology wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Yeah, hold on to McCain. The meniscus injury is a little concerning, but he's going to be a damn good player in this league. Five years from now, he may be as good as Jalen Brunson. You don't let talent like that go. Not unless it's for a surefire upgrade.


Do you think teams have strong interest in Jared McCain?

I feel like Tre Mann, Colin Sexton, Jordan Clarkson or Cole Anthony could be more affordable alternatives.

Even if we were to trade him, I don’t think other teams value him as highly as we, the fans, do.

If there was a re-draft, he'd go much higher IMO, even with the injury (undergoing the full repair is good).

Obviously depends on Morey's mindset of contending over the next couple years vs. keeping the future bright. Regardless, I think he's smart enough to know though that McCain's value now has to be higher than the 16th pick and won't part with him for cheap.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1829 » by 76ciology » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:31 am

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76ciology wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Yeah, hold on to McCain. The meniscus injury is a little concerning, but he's going to be a damn good player in this league. Five years from now, he may be as good as Jalen Brunson. You don't let talent like that go. Not unless it's for a surefire upgrade.


Do you think teams have strong interest in Jared McCain?

I feel like Tre Mann, Colin Sexton, Jordan Clarkson or Cole Anthony could be more affordable alternatives.

Even if we were to trade him, I don’t think other teams value him as highly as we, the fans, do.

If there was a re-draft, he'd go much higher IMO, even with the injury (undergoing the full repair is good).

Obviously depends on Morey's mindset of contending over the next couple years vs. keeping the future bright. Regardless, I think he's smart enough to know though that McCain's value now has to be higher than the 16th pick and won't part with him for cheap.


He’d go higher for sure.

But being in the conversation as “untouchable”? Trading Embiid over McCain? I don’t think he’s anywhere near that level.

Have you guys seen how good Payton Pritchard and Donte DiVincenzo have been lately?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1830 » by Iscull » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:36 am

McCain’s also important as a future core culture / locker room guy next to Maxey.

We want effort players
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1831 » by NearingZero » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:38 am

76ciology wrote:
NearingZero wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Do you think teams have strong interest in Jared McCain?

I feel like Tre Mann, Colin Sexton, Jordan Clarkson or Cole Anthony could be more affordable alternatives.

Even if we were to trade him, I don’t think other teams value him as highly as we, the fans, do.

If there was a re-draft, he'd go much higher IMO, even with the injury (undergoing the full repair is good).

Obviously depends on Morey's mindset of contending over the next couple years vs. keeping the future bright. Regardless, I think he's smart enough to know though that McCain's value now has to be higher than the 16th pick and won't part with him for cheap.


He’d go higher for sure.

But being in the conversation as “untouchable”? Trading Embiid over McCain? I don’t think he’s anywhere near that level.

Have you guys seen how good Payton Pritchard and Donte DiVincenzo have been lately?

Oh, absolutely agreed he's not untouchable.

Though I think the talk of trading Embiid over McCain is more about wanting a franchise reset (I'm not personally there yet). I'm really not sure what trade offers for Embiid would look like at this point.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1832 » by Arsenal » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:50 am

McCain would probably go #1 overall in a redraft. He’s not being traded, Morey isn’t as myopic as certain idiot fans.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1833 » by phifans » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:54 am

76ciology wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Yeah, hold on to McCain. The meniscus injury is a little concerning, but he's going to be a damn good player in this league. Five years from now, he may be as good as Jalen Brunson. You don't let talent like that go. Not unless it's for a surefire upgrade.


Do you think teams have strong interest in Jared McCain?

I feel like Tre Mann, Colin Sexton, Jordan Clarkson or Cole Anthony could be more affordable alternatives.

Even if we were to trade him, I don’t think other teams value him as highly as we, the fans, do.


Seriously ?

Do u totally forget McCain is a 20 years old rookie player when you make these kinds of comparison ?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1834 » by 76ciology » Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:01 am

phifans wrote:
76ciology wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Yeah, hold on to McCain. The meniscus injury is a little concerning, but he's going to be a damn good player in this league. Five years from now, he may be as good as Jalen Brunson. You don't let talent like that go. Not unless it's for a surefire upgrade.


Do you think teams have strong interest in Jared McCain?

I feel like Tre Mann, Colin Sexton, Jordan Clarkson or Cole Anthony could be more affordable alternatives.

Even if we were to trade him, I don’t think other teams value him as highly as we, the fans, do.


Seriously ?

Do u totally forget McCain is a 20 years old rookie player when you make these kinds of comparison ?


Seriously? Yes.

I also factored in the 20 year old attribute.

Is there anything wrong with what I said? The names I mentioned were simply referred to as “cheaper alternatives,” nothing more. I never claimed that McCain would end up being only as good as those players.

Im not looking to trade him either. What im saying is he’s not the “untouchable” or “trade Embiid over him” type.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1835 » by phifans » Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:06 am

76ciology wrote:
phifans wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Do you think teams have strong interest in Jared McCain?

I feel like Tre Mann, Colin Sexton, Jordan Clarkson or Cole Anthony could be more affordable alternatives.

Even if we were to trade him, I don’t think other teams value him as highly as we, the fans, do.


Seriously ?

Do u totally forget McCain is a 20 years old rookie player when you make these kinds of comparison ?


Seriously? Yes.

I also factored in the 20 year old attribute.

Is there anything wrong with what I said? The names I mentioned were simply referred to as “cheaper alternatives,” nothing more. I never claimed that McCain would end up being only as good as those players.

Im not looking to trade him either. What im saying is he’s not the “untouchable” or “trade Embiid over him” type.


Well I don't think any teams interests in guys like Tre Mann, Colin Sexton, Jordan Clarkson or Cole Anthony would list McCain as their "other alternative".
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1836 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:19 am

Negrodamus wrote:I’d trade Embiid right now before McCain. He’s not a sure fire superstar, but trying to stack aging, injured stars around the final boss of injured stars doesn’t intrigue me.


I think mccain can play but let's no get carried away he aint prove to impact wins at all. We lost all our games with him playing lol. I don't like the fit here and prefer maxey ...
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1837 » by Negrodamus » Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:25 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I’d trade Embiid right now before McCain. He’s not a sure fire superstar, but trying to stack aging, injured stars around the final boss of injured stars doesn’t intrigue me.


I think mccain can play but let's no get carried away he aint prove to impact wins at all. We lost all our games with him playing lol. I don't like the fit here and prefer maxey ...


He’s a rookie. What rookie is leading a bunch of role players to wins?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1838 » by M2J » Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:58 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I’d trade Embiid right now before McCain. He’s not a sure fire superstar, but trying to stack aging, injured stars around the final boss of injured stars doesn’t intrigue me.


I think mccain can play but let's no get carried away he aint prove to impact wins at all. We lost all our games with him playing lol. I don't like the fit here and prefer maxey ...



McCain is really good guys. I don't even think he's a surefire superstar either, but at this point with Joel's contract and age and injuries.... The team may prefer to Joel than him.

I'm team make no trades at this point. But Jared I think is going to a very well rounded star player. He's a hustle and grit guy smart ass heck... And likely to become a good defender in the future in a Lowry or Billups sense. I'll admit a more natural point guard than Maxey (even though, I know for a fact Maxey is the better actual point guard from the traditional standpoint today). Efficient Movement shooter too that can thrive off ball.

With Maxey showing what his high effort defense looks like now that he has offensive help... Awesome. I'm even less worried about their fit long term than I was a month ago. But on this team right now a great 6th man. When he comes back in April (I pray).

Right now realistically, he's untradable. Especially for any role players like Herb
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1839 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:33 pm

Untouchable? No, trade bait? No. I mean I'd offer McCain in a package for Lamelo Ball, Jalen Williams, Shaeden Sharpe, Cade Cunningham, or a few other names, but that's really it.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1840 » by Iverson Armband » Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:41 pm

Arsenal wrote:McCain would probably go #1 overall in a redraft. He’s not being traded, Morey isn’t as myopic as certain idiot fans.

I’d have Castle over him but the point remains the same.
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