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Post#2001 » by Fierce1 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 5:50 am

This is the same as Ant sweeping the Suns and KD.

Ant was proclaimed the next MJ after Ant dominated KD and the Suns.

And when Ant was taken out by Luka and the Mavs, Ant is not so MJ after all. :lol:

Spida has been in the league for 8 seasons now and he has yet to reach the finals.

Even with the Jazz and having the #1 seed, Spida has never reached the conference finals.

I don't think crazy mamba mentality applies to someone who hasn't even played in a conference finals yet.
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Post#2002 » by Triple7 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:51 am

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Lee Van Cleef wrote:Cavs are kicking Warriors’ butt on the road. Spida is a difference maker. He knocked down 3 3s in a row, basically destroying the Warriors.


Yup just like what he did to us sinking 3 straight 3’s. That dude is a fighter. With a crazy mamba like ability and mentality of taking over games. Something JT doesn’t have unfortunately. JT would shrink against Curry. Still have that finals trauma.

Wow!

So Spida has already won a championship?

Has Spida already been to the finals?


What does mentality got to do with winning a championship? Lol. Lebron has won 4, but he’s still scared **** to take free throws on crucial situations. Lebron doesn’t have the killer mentality of a Kobe or MJ. Its either you have it or don’t. Sadly, Tatum doesn’t
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Post#2003 » by Triple7 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:56 am

Fierce1 wrote:I find it hard to believe JT has finals trauma when JT led the Celtics in scoring, rebounding, and assists in the postseason last season.

Spida on the other hand does not have finals trauma, just trauma because he has yet to reach the finals.


Lol. He has trauma against the Steph and the warriors. Yup he led the team in stats, but he failed the eye test, hence, losing all the awards he should have easily gotten, if he didn’t kept on chucking and bricking 3’s.
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Post#2004 » by Triple7 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:02 am

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Lee Van Cleef wrote:Cavs are kicking Warriors’ butt on the road. Spida is a difference maker. He knocked down 3 3s in a row, basically destroying the Warriors.


Yup just like what he did to us sinking 3 straight 3’s. That dude is a fighter. With a crazy mamba like ability and mentality of taking over games. Something JT doesn’t have unfortunately. JT would shrink against Curry. Still have that finals trauma.

Mitchell had 23 on 60% TS vs the Warriors. JT had 32 on 67% TS. The problem for us was the rest of the team shot horribly lol (and JB and KP were out)


That’s the problem. JT should be way above guys like Mitchell. He should be a tier above. Its his mentality at times thats a problem. Just watch JT’s game. Its all about the 3 ball. If he’s shooting the 3 fine, then he’ll have a good stats and overall game, but if his shooting is horrible, it affects him. Now he be missing layups and easy shots. Also, if the other team has an aggressive star, instead of matching the performance, he becomes passive. Just what happened against Curry, Butler two years ago, and just recently against Mitchell and the Cavs. Could also happen against Brunson and Maxey.
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Post#2005 » by Triple7 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:06 am

Fierce1 wrote:This is the same as Ant sweeping the Suns and KD.

Ant was proclaimed the next MJ after Ant dominated KD and the Suns.

And when Ant was taken out by Luka and the Mavs, Ant is not so MJ after all. :lol:

Spida has been in the league for 8 seasons now and he has yet to reach the finals.

Even with the Jazz and having the #1 seed, Spida has never reached the conference finals.

I don't think crazy mamba mentality applies to someone who hasn't even played in a conference finals yet.


Lol. But you have to admit JT doesn’t have the mamba mentality. He’s just too nice. That’s why Kerr doesn’t respect him. Try benching Kobe in the olympics lol. I would have respected Tatum if he went home straight after that first game benching.
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Post#2006 » by Fierce1 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:08 am

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Yup just like what he did to us sinking 3 straight 3’s. That dude is a fighter. With a crazy mamba like ability and mentality of taking over games. Something JT doesn’t have unfortunately. JT would shrink against Curry. Still have that finals trauma.

Wow!

So Spida has already won a championship?

Has Spida already been to the finals?


What does mentality got to do with winning a championship? Lol. Lebron has won 4, but he’s still scared **** to take free throws on crucial situations. Lebron doesn’t have the killer mentality of a Kobe or MJ. Its either you have it or don’t. Sadly, Tatum doesn’t

Kobe and MJ all have multiple championships.

That's why they're known to have that killer mentality because they make shots that result in their team winning.

The stakes are high in a conference finals and finals.

Spida has yet to reach that level.

That's why it's premature to say that he has that crazy mamba mentality because the pressure of the conference finals and finals is different from the first 2 rounds of the playoffs.

And your take on Lebron and FT's is purely your own opinion.
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Post#2007 » by Triple7 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:15 am

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Fierce1 wrote:Wow!

So Spida has already won a championship?

Has Spida already been to the finals?


What does mentality got to do with winning a championship? Lol. Lebron has won 4, but he’s still scared **** to take free throws on crucial situations. Lebron doesn’t have the killer mentality of a Kobe or MJ. Its either you have it or don’t. Sadly, Tatum doesn’t

Kobe and MJ all have multiple championships.

That's why they're known to have that killer mentality because they make shots that result in their team winning.

The stakes are high in a conference finals and finals.

Spida has yet to reach that level.

That's why it's premature to say that he has that crazy mamba mentality because the pressure of the conference finals and finals is different from the first 2 rounds of the playoffs.

And your take on Lebron and FT's is purely your own opinion.


What do you mean my own opinion???
That’s why he lost that series to dallas. He scared **** to take free throws. It affected his game which is to attack inside, since his mid range is awful. I have watched Mitchell sink tough shots after tough shots on crucial moments. Yeah, he could choke in the conf finals, or the finals if he gets there, but he could also be clutch. We don’t know. I’m just basing it off with his performance. Even as a jazz, he put up an amazing performance against the nuggets. Too bad his team is no where near the nuggets with Jokic and murray. He had gobert lol. Let see what he does this time as a number 1 seed. Also don’t like our chances against the sixers and knicks, if they hav me home court
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Post#2008 » by Fierce1 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:21 am

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Fierce1 wrote:This is the same as Ant sweeping the Suns and KD.

Ant was proclaimed the next MJ after Ant dominated KD and the Suns.

And when Ant was taken out by Luka and the Mavs, Ant is not so MJ after all. :lol:

Spida has been in the league for 8 seasons now and he has yet to reach the finals.

Even with the Jazz and having the #1 seed, Spida has never reached the conference finals.

I don't think crazy mamba mentality applies to someone who hasn't even played in a conference finals yet.


Lol. But you have to admit JT doesn’t have the mamba mentality. He’s just too nice. That’s why Kerr doesn’t respect him. Try benching Kobe in the olympics lol. I would have respected Tatum if he went home straight after that first game benching.

I never said JT does not have that mamba mentality.

JT is more like Tim Duncan.

A nice guy who just wins.

The problem with you is you're stuck in the past.

You still think the JT of today is still the JT of 2022.

What I've noticed from your takes is you get blown away by highlight reels.

You don't see that JT is now making the right plays, making the right passes.

How about that behind the back pass to Al for the 3 in the ECF against the Pacers?

That was a very critical stage of an ECF game and JT never hesitated to make the pass.

Or the rebounds that JT gets.

JT is leading the team in rebounds per game.

There are so many things that JT does that helps the Celtics win.

And he's not afraid to take the last shot.

In fact, he already has a game winning buzzer beater this season.

Just because you have a different definition of killer mentality, that doesn't mean JT does not have it.

He's a nice guy so he does not have killer mentality?

Ask Philly fans how they felt after Game 6 of the 2023 east semis.
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Post#2009 » by Fierce1 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:34 am

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What does mentality got to do with winning a championship? Lol. Lebron has won 4, but he’s still scared **** to take free throws on crucial situations. Lebron doesn’t have the killer mentality of a Kobe or MJ. Its either you have it or don’t. Sadly, Tatum doesn’t

Kobe and MJ all have multiple championships.

That's why they're known to have that killer mentality because they make shots that result in their team winning.

The stakes are high in a conference finals and finals.

Spida has yet to reach that level.

That's why it's premature to say that he has that crazy mamba mentality because the pressure of the conference finals and finals is different from the first 2 rounds of the playoffs.

And your take on Lebron and FT's is purely your own opinion.


What do you mean my own opinion???
That’s why he lost that series to dallas. He scared **** to take free throws. It affected his game which is to attack inside, since his mid range is awful. I have watched Mitchell sink tough shots after tough shots on crucial moments. Yeah, he could choke in the conf finals, or the finals if he gets there, but he could also be clutch. We don’t know. I’m just basing it off with his performance. Even as a jazz, he put up an amazing performance against the nuggets. Too bad his team is no where near the nuggets with Jokic and murray. He had gobert lol. Let see what he does this time as a number 1 seed. Also don’t like our chances against the sixers and knicks, if they hav me home court

I really don't want to talk about Lebron, but just a little bit.

Again, you're stuck in the past.
Lebron losing to Dallas was in 2011.
Come on!

The guy won back to back chips with Miami, 1 with the Cavs, and 1 with the Lakers.

That's from 2012 to 2020.

So 1 bad season does not define a player's whole career.

You said it yourself, Spida could choke in the conf finals.

That proves my point that your proclamation of Spida of having crazy mamba mentality is premature.

And don't use Jokic and Murray as an excuse because Denver didn't have a great supporting cast before Aaron Gordon arrived.

Also, Spida and the Jazz had the #1 seed in 2021.
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Post#2010 » by JaMarco » Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:05 am

The KAT trade was such a tremendous trade for the Knicks.
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Post#2011 » by phincsfan » Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:08 pm

JaMarco wrote:The KAT trade was such a tremendous trade for the Knicks.


Kats not a winner. He always folds when it has to count. On paper that roster looks good now, but IMO Randle and Donte were the better fits for that team. I felt the same way when they traded for Melo. NY is all about optics.

Trading for Kat gives them the shiny thing who's locked into a long term contract. With Randle, there was gonna be contract disputes and the fanbase was gonna get antsy. Replace the dispute with a big name and all is forgotten until they crap the bed in the playoffs year after year. The thing with Randle was the durability excuse, but it seems like he'll play a lot this season. NY fans will see Minny flounder and say "see that trade worked out for us". Randle isn't a good fit for Minny's roster. Like I said Randle and Donte were better overall fits for NY because they played that tough gritty ball that NY loves. IMO, that roster gives teams trouble when healthy especially in the playoffs. This NY roster doesn't scare me one bit. It's just a shiny thing that everybody stares at.

I'll also add, NY should have made Hartenstein a priority. That's why they're rumored to be interested in Jonas, because they lack toughness.
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Post#2012 » by phincsfan » Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:42 pm

What's being shown right now is inconsistent play because of injuries. But there also seems to be a disconnect. Something Joe really hasn't had to deal with during the regular season. Last season when KP went down, the play stayed consistent. Everybody was focused on two things: 1) getting paid 2) a championship. I put getting paid first because at the end of the day that's the reality. All the guys who were in negotiations were on their best behavior and followed everything that Joe said. The reason it may have looked like team before individual was because there were 5 guys who knew their contract situation was coming up. That's alot of mouths to feed and none of them wanted to rock the boat. JT was the only lock to get a contract regardless of how they ended the season. White and Sam seemed like they didn't miss a game, gave career years. Two huge pieces to the roster.

The disconnect is tough to watch because now that everybody is paid what's the real incentive to continue to follow Joe's every lead? What are they hungry for? Every guy on that roster has a ring. There are no ring chasers. IMO Lonnie Walker was not gonna motivate them anymore then they are right now, but what's the motivation now? Last season you had one guy who had a ring and 14 guys chasing that ring. Now you have 15 guys with rings, the main core all paid, Luke looking to get his first real contract and a bunch of 2 ways.

Joe to me, has to get blame for what's going on with that disconnect. He never had a back-up plan if a bench player like Sam got injured. And for the regular season, to lose a main bench player is going to hurt. For the playoffs, Sam and PP can have their roles reduced and the horses get all the work, but if the horses are used up in the regular season than they won't make it in the playoffs. And that's what is happening now. Something happened that Neems is not being used and I don't believe it's because KP is back or Luke was playing well. His minutes have been cut in half this month and this is still the case with KP out.

Two months to figure it out because Mar and April is where the team needs to find it's groove going into the playoffs.
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Post#2013 » by phincsfan » Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:49 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:Even if all the games in a 7-game series will be played in NY, Cs will still beat the Knicks 4-1.


Keep thinking that from what you seen of this team. Right now you can make an argument they’re the 3ed best team in the east based on their play.

3rd, 4th, or even 5th best in the regular season means nothing when the playoffs start.

I'll do you one better.

The Celtics are just the 4th best team in the east right now.

That's based on their play.


If the playoffs ended today and the C's had the trophy and the 25th pick :D
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Post#2014 » by Fierce1 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:12 pm

Those who were so in awe with the Warriors after they beat Boston last month, look at the Warriors now.

Thinking GSW can beat Father Time is just fantasy.

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