PG: Knick vs Wizards: 12/30/24; 8 in a row!

[mpharris36]

I think I would rather take my chances on Mitch getting healthy. But if they think he won’t get back then we have to consider other options

I think I would too. And I guess the Knicks could package Precious, Sims and a the Wiz pick and maybe get it done, assuming the Wiz have the rights to a worthless Euro stash player to balance the trade (I'll assume other teams besides the The Brock Allers do this), but then the Knicks would stay too deep at C for no reason, while removing one of the few players who can play the 4.

Now, I know KAT can play the 4. OG or Hart IS the 4 and then it follows that either OG or Hart can back up the 4.
So losing one doesn't seem like a big deal until you realize that Thibs trusts almost no one on the bench to backup Hart and OG, and barely to back up Mikal.

But I guess that's a way (didn't check it) that he could come over without Mitch going out. But then Mitch wouldn't really play.

Or they move Mitch for a wing after that trade.

They probably don't do any trade unless one opens up that is EXACTLY what they were hoping would happen in the offseason, only it happens at the during this trade deadline. Whatever that would be.

Jonas...I dont think he is playable against a team like Boston and Prescious would be better fit in that series for us since he is more agile on the perimter. I have a tough time moving Prescious since I think he could help against Boston.

In other series Jonas would be better, and he is better overall though.

I would probably wait until closer to the trade deadline to see what is out there. We will probably hear more rumors of vets available and maybe we can find the right guy at the right cost. Plus we should have a better idea on Mitch.

Yeah I'm not interested in acquiring someone that can get exposed by BOS or Indy in the P&R.

[thebuzzardman]

Beef Stew is still one of the likely guys I see us trading for. One of the better guys with rim protection. Has switch ability. He's one of the best guys that has guarded Giannis so he has versatility.

I think he would fit right in with the toughness and a local kid.

He has also has some offensive skills. Has made 3's before and decent FT shooter.

Think he is the type of ideal fit if the Knicks don't trust Mitchs health.

That's probably the better move

[knicksNOTslick]

Yeah Val is a solid option but watching both games he's going to give us nothing defensively. Knicks got whatever they wanted with him on the floor.

I would take my chances Mitch stays healthy they trade him for Val. Mitch at minimum has value against CLE and Philly two teams we could likely face in playoffs.

Not saying Mitch untouchable but I don't want to acquire a big that will get exposed in P&R defense.

I wouldn't say nothing. His height disrupted some stuff and he's a really good defensive and offensive rebounder.
But agreed, he's not really a rim protector.

It's not just the rim protection. They purposely put a smaller defender on KAT so the Knicks couldn't run Brunson and KAT P&Rs. Val just can't move his feet. He's a great rebounder and has great touch on offense. Good passer too. Just not sure that's what we need. You couldnt play KAT and Val together.

I would much rather go after a Beef Stew someone who can defend and also play some small ball 4. Like a better version of precious if we were going down that route.

I feel like a healthy mitch though gives us just another play style we can win at. We could go Mitch and KAT vs Cleveland and destroy them on the glass.

This. I'm willing to trade Mitch for the right trade. But Mitch is way more valuable in the playoffs for us than a lot of the available centers simply because of that potential matchup vs Cleveland. If we want to win a ring, Jonas isn't the answer.

We have to be smart about what we do with Mitchell Robinson, whether it's the player or the contract. Both are valuable and pretty much the only asset that can improve the team drastically.

[ctorres]

credit to Thibs for making an adjustment

there was a moment late in the game where he recognized that the team needed to rebound better to combat the wizards' bigs

so he played mcbride , hart, anunoby, achiuwa, and towns on the floor together

[3toheadmelo]

Look if it had not been for Thibs' 31 straight DNP-CDs

He was balling when he was playing... 22+ppg on 55FG% when he attempted at least 10 shots

The 31 straight DNP-CDs torpedoed his confidence... you serve a 31 straight DNP-CDs to prime MJ, prime Luka, prime LeBron, they confidence get hurt too... this game is all about confidence.

I was sure of his superstardom as sure could be, but DNP-CDs got in the way ... outta anyone's control

Comparing cam reddish to prime Jordan, prime Bron now too?

LOL you can't be serious ! WHO was comparing Cam to them?? Not me !! I was saying if DNP-CDs could affect top tier players like prime MJ and prime LeBron, it would DEFINITELY affect lower tier players like Cam...

Anyway I had not posted about Cam maybe since his first month as a Laker (last season), I've moved on.

For you? I' give a week before you start posting again wishing the team had not traded Randle, or had acquired D-Mitch, Ayton, LaVine, and all other possible non winning inefficient volume chuckers in the L

Imagine still writing essays about how cam could’ve been the next Jordan in 2024 this is the definition of being down bad

[stuporman]

After the 11th game of the season...the Knicks were 5-6 and the Cavs were 11-0

Since then the Cavs are 17-4 and the Knicks are 18-4

[GettinitDone]

Comparing cam reddish to prime Jordan, prime Bron now too?

LOL you can't be serious ! WHO was comparing Cam to them?? Not me !! I was saying if DNP-CDs could affect top tier players like prime MJ and prime LeBron, it would DEFINITELY affect lower tier players like Cam...

Anyway I had not posted about Cam maybe since his first month as a Laker (last season), I've moved on.

For you? I' give a week before you start posting again wishing the team had not traded Randle, or had acquired D-Mitch, Ayton, LaVine, and all other possible non winning inefficient volume chuckers in the L

Imagine still writing essays about how cam could’ve been the next Jordan in 2024 this is the definition of being down bad

Not me you're putting words in my mouth

[GettinitDone]

After the 11th game of the season...the Knicks were 5-6 and the Cavs were 11-0

Since then the Cavs are 17-4 and the Knicks are 18-4

Interesting the record makes them look invincible, Kenny coaches the hell out of them

We won't meet them until 22nd Feb, CAN'T WAIT !!!

[Jeff Van Gully]

LOL you can't be serious ! WHO was comparing Cam to them?? Not me !! I was saying if DNP-CDs could affect top tier players like prime MJ and prime LeBron, it would DEFINITELY affect lower tier players like Cam...

Anyway I had not posted about Cam maybe since his first month as a Laker (last season), I've moved on.

For you? I' give a week before you start posting again wishing the team had not traded Randle, or had acquired D-Mitch, Ayton, LaVine, and all other possible non winning inefficient volume chuckers in the L

Imagine still writing essays about how cam could’ve been the next Jordan in 2024 this is the definition of being down bad

Not me you're putting words in my mouth

oh snap. look.

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[3toheadmelo]

LOL you can't be serious ! WHO was comparing Cam to them?? Not me !! I was saying if DNP-CDs could affect top tier players like prime MJ and prime LeBron, it would DEFINITELY affect lower tier players like Cam...

Anyway I had not posted about Cam maybe since his first month as a Laker (last season), I've moved on.

For you? I' give a week before you start posting again wishing the team had not traded Randle, or had acquired D-Mitch, Ayton, LaVine, and all other possible non winning inefficient volume chuckers in the L

Imagine still writing essays about how cam could’ve been the next Jordan in 2024 this is the definition of being down bad

Not me you're putting words in my mouth

can’t back pedal out of that. Anyways I’m glad we traded your boy for Hart. Maybe one day you’ll be able to move on and enjoy Josh hart.

[2010]

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[Chanel Bomber]

Say no to Val.

Resist the temptation.

He's always been a talented player but when you can neither defend nor shoot 3s at the 5, it will tend to put a ceiling on the winning prospects of any lineup.

I think it's much more valuable to have Precious and/or Mitch to back up KAT. More solidity defensively, and you can pair them with KAT if a specific matchup poses challenges defensively with KAT at the 5. In that scenario, Val would only compound the issue, not mitigate it.

[3toheadmelo]

Precious is playing great. I’m more than fine with him as our backup big.

[ctorres]

Say no to Val.

Resist the temptation.

He's always been a talented player but when you can neither defend nor shoot 3s at the 5, it will tend to put a ceiling on the winning prospects of any lineup.

I think it's much more valuable to have Precious and/or Mitch to back up KAT. More solidity defensively, and you can pair them with KAT if a specific matchup poses challenges defensively with KAT at the 5. In that scenario, Val would only compound the issue, not mitigate it.

Hopefully no one in the starting lineup gets injured this year, but we need Mitch for insurance in the event he would start in place of Towns

Knock on wood

Same way Hartenstein was able to take over for Mitch

[GONYK]

Say no to Val.

Resist the temptation.

He's always been a talented player but when you can neither defend nor shoot 3s at the 5, it will tend to put a ceiling on the winning prospects of any lineup.

I think it's much more valuable to have Precious and/or Mitch to back up KAT. More solidity defensively, and you can pair them with KAT if a specific matchup poses challenges defensively with KAT at the 5. In that scenario, Val would only compound the issue, not mitigate it.

Simply put, the Knicks are not going to spend resources to acquire and pay someone who won't have a clear path see the floor in the playoffs

[Capn'O]

Say no to Val.

Resist the temptation.

He's always been a talented player but when you can neither defend nor shoot 3s at the 5, it will tend to put a ceiling on the winning prospects of any lineup.

I think it's much more valuable to have Precious and/or Mitch to back up KAT. More solidity defensively, and you can pair them with KAT if a specific matchup poses challenges defensively with KAT at the 5. In that scenario, Val would only compound the issue, not mitigate it.

All of this. And we'd have to move Mitch to get him. We just need to be patient and see what Mitch brings before doing something rash.

[GettinitDone]

Imagine still writing essays about how cam could’ve been the next Jordan in 2024 this is the definition of being down bad

Not me you're putting words in my mouth

can’t back pedal out of that. Anyways I’m glad we traded your boy for Hart. Maybe one day you’ll be able to move on and enjoy Josh hart.

Again putting words in my mouth

I love Josh Hart he's the heart and soul of this team

Again, I hadn't posted about Cam for 1+ year or so until this game when someone else posted about him... and then you also pulled receipt, and I just responded. I have moved on.

[Context]

I apologize guys!!!

KAT is HIM and we won the trade!

You have been released Mel

[jvsimonetti0514]

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Shai has been on a mission from god this season too. He’s got like a 16 net rating right now so the fact that Mikal is beating him in plus/minus this month shows how much of a corner Mikal has turned. He might have been one of the worst players in the league in November and now more good things happen with him on the court than one of the best. He did his best job shutting my azz up and on Friday he’ll have a chance to shutdown Shai’s.

[ctorres]

Say no to Val.

Resist the temptation.

He's always been a talented player but when you can neither defend nor shoot 3s at the 5, it will tend to put a ceiling on the winning prospects of any lineup.

I think it's much more valuable to have Precious and/or Mitch to back up KAT. More solidity defensively, and you can pair them with KAT if a specific matchup poses challenges defensively with KAT at the 5. In that scenario, Val would only compound the issue, not mitigate it.

All of this. And we'd have to move Mitch to get him. We just need to be patient and see what Mitch brings before doing something rash.

Might need Mitch late in the season in case Towns has to miss games

Last season to start the year, Mitch was averaging right under 30 minutes a game before he went down. So we have the luxury of being able to insert him into the starting lineup when necessary once he is healthy

Sims just can't do that for us and Hukporti isn't ready in Thibs' eyes