Four Teamer - Butler, Wiggins, LaVine, Hachimura

[Anderson Hunt]

Bulls in: Butler, Duncan Robinson, Looney, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Max Christie, Hood-Schifino, Jaxon Hayes, and two Miami first-round picks.
Bulls out: LaVine, Vucevic, Lonzo Ball, Patrick Williams, Jevon Carter, and Horton-Tucker.
Bulls waive: Torrey Craig and Chris Duarte.

PG - Giddy - Dosunmu - Schifino
SG - White - Christie - Robinson
C --- Looney - Smith - Hayes
PF - Hachimura - Vanderbilt - Buzelis
SF - Butler - Terry - Phillips

Heat in: Andrew Wiggins, Schroeder, Kuminga, Podzeimski, Gabe Vincent, and Reddish.
Heat out: Butler, Duncan Robinson, Pelle Larsson, Keshad Johnson, and two first-round picks.
Heat waive: Josh Richardson

PG - Schroeder - Vincent - Podzeimski
SG - Herro - Rozier - Burks
C --- Adebayo - Jokic - Ware
PF - Highsmith - Kuminga - Love
SF - Wiggins - Jaquez - Reddish

Warriors in: Lonzo Ball, Vucevic, Patrick Williams, Horton-Tucker, Shake Milton, and Christian Wood.
Warriors out: Andrew Wiggins, Kuminga, Podzeimski, Looney, Gary Payton II, and Schroeder.
Warriors sign: Markelle Fultz.

PG - Fultz - Ball - Tucker
SG - Curry - Hield - Milton
C --- Vucevic - Wood - Davis
PF - Green - Anderson - Santos
SF - Williams - Moody - Waters

Lakers in: LaVine, Jevon Carter, Gary Payton II, Keshad Johnson, and Pelle Larsson.
Lakers out: Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Gabe Vincent, Max Christie, Hood-Schifino, Jaxon Hayes, Christian Wood, Shake Milton, and Reddish.
Lakers sign: Biyombo, Dwight Howard, Cedi Osman, and Troy Brown Jr.

PG - Carter - Payton - James
SG - LaVine - Reaves - Larsson
C --- Davis - Biyombo - Howard
PF - James - Osman - Johnson
SF - Smith - Knecht - Brown Jr.

[SlimShady83]

Wow! ... That's a lot to take In... Hard enough to get 2 teams, 3 teams but 4 team trades? haha love It... But not happening.

Lakers are not trading Max Chrisite, his a 2 way player and 21/2 years old - pretty much everyone else Is ok to trade that OP mentioned Milton Lakers just signed, don't think they'll trade him soo soon.

-Vando Lakers not trading him either and no team wants him on the contract 3/4 years Injury, note he is practicing atm no contact.

Happy New Year LOL.

[_GH0ST_]

This is too horrible for the Heat.

[BBallFreak]

This is too horrible for the Heat.

i echo this sentiment. We give up two first round picks to downgrade? Hell no!

[Tim Lehrbach]

I understand what the attempt is here for Miami, anyway: turn Butler into the two younger, solid pieces from GSW. The price is borderline outrageous, however. That's a lottery team afterwards, giving up two future first round picks for the privilege.

[brackdan70]

Just to many moving pieces. I think you need to really simplify this.
Why send Butler to the Bulls? Really makes no sense to me. The Heat sending two picks is a bit much maybe. Looks good for the Lakers I guess but doesn’t make any sense to me for the other teams.

[ChettheJet]

This is what it looks when you play trade machine and have no concern about the actual basketball side of a trade. The Bulls exchange 8 players get 3 new starters and who knows what they end up with.

[gswhoops]

Terrible for Golden State and way, way, WAY too good for Chicago.

They give up one of the worst contracts in the league and a bunch of meh players and somehow walk away with Jimmy Butler and two first round picks.

[Lenneth]

Easy pass for Warriors. I don't think Warriors will tank at this point by inheriting the Bulls and trading a large chunk of their young cores.

[Nate the Great]

Needs a couple more teams.

Schröder can’t be traded with other players now. Maybe there’s a way to do it as two separate trades, but it’s not worth figuring it out, because it’s not a balanced trade.

[gswhoops]

PG - Fultz - Ball - Tucker
SG - Curry - Hield - Milton
C --- Vucevic - Wood - Davis
PF - Green - Anderson - Santos
SF - Williams - Moody - Waters

Missed this the first time through. Apparently the Warriors are going to move Steph Curry, one of the greatest players of all time, off his natural position to let a guy they're signing off the street mid-season start and run point.

[gswhoops]

Easy pass for Warriors. I don't think Warriors will tank at this point by inheriting the Bulls and trading a large chunk of their young cores.

This isn't even a tanking deal - it somehow makes us worse now and in the future.

[Anderson Hunt]

This is too horrible for the Heat.

i echo this sentiment. We give up two first round picks to downgrade? Hell no!

Swapping out Butler and Robinson for Kuminga and Wiggins (plus Podzeimski and Schroeder) is worth ,at minimum, one pick (in my opinion two).

As far as the team Miami is left with after the trade, I believe they'd be damn good. Their closing lineup of Schroder, Herro, Wiggins, Kuminga, and Adebayo could be lethal.

[Lenneth]

Easy pass for Warriors. I don't think Warriors will tank at this point by inheriting the Bulls and trading a large chunk of their young cores.

This isn't even a tanking deal - it somehow makes us worse now and in the future.

Agreed. Right now, I won't trade Wiggins for Vuc, Kuminga for Williams, Podz for Lonzo, Schroder for Milton, Looney for Wood, and GPII for Horton-Tucker. It's a complete downgrade throughout the Warriors roster to tank. And, we lose both Kuminga and Podz for the future...

[DonaldSanders]

I'd love to hear the "Why" for each team on this trade. Horrific for GSW.

[BBallFreak]

This is too horrible for the Heat.

i echo this sentiment. We give up two first round picks to downgrade? Hell no!

Swapping out Butler and Robinson for Kuminga and Wiggins (plus Podzeimski and Schroeder) is worth ,at minimum, one pick (in my opinion two).

As far as the team Miami is left with after the trade, I believe they'd be damn good. Their closing lineup of Schroder, Herro, Wiggins, Kuminga, and Adebayo could be lethal.

We thoroughly disagree on value, here. We should definitely not be paying picks. If anything, we should be getting them

[SkyHook]

The Bulls are the only yes here. They're stealing value from the other three.

[BBallFreak]

The Bulls are the only yes here. They're stealing value from the other three.

Correct. I wouldn't think Vuc, Ball, and Williams, without LaVine's albatross of a contract, would fetch Butler and two first round picks, but when you add LaVine you just completely screw everything up.

This is just so bad. OP can't even seem to understand depth charts after this. He tries to sell me on Podz as an asset worthy of exchanging first round picks for, but has him as a third string point guard on our depth chart. Kuminga can't even find his way into the starting lineup, even though he's the only truly valuable piece (and even then, his contract status subtracts from that). It's just a mess with skewed value completely favoring Chicago.

[SkyHook]

The Bulls are the only yes here. They're stealing value from the other three.

Correct. I wouldn't think Vuc, Ball, and Williams, without LaVine's albatross of a contract, would fetch Butler and two first round picks, but when you add LaVine you just completely screw everything up.

This is just so bad. OP can't even seem to understand depth charts after this. He tries to sell me on Podz as an asset worthy of exchanging first round picks for, but has him as a third string point guard on our depth chart. Kuminga can't even find his way into the starting lineup, even though he's the only truly valuable piece (and even then, his contract status subtracts from that). It's just a mess with skewed value completely favoring Chicago.

He didn't include the rationale for each team so I don't really have any idea what he was thinking. It's an oddball.