Lakers add De’Aaron Fox, prime speed in the backcourt

redslastlaugh · Post #1 » by **redslastlaugh** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:12 pm

The Lakers have some negative salary weight, some draft assets and need some team speed and an all star in his prime. Fox gives them an all star level guard for the next 5-7 years. They take in Orlando Robinson to balance the slalries under the trade rules.

The Kings have built the BeamTeam around Sabonis and Fox but that core seems to have reached its expiration date. They can add a plus guard in Reaves and receive TWO firsts to take on bad money and years.

Lakers trade
Austin Reaves
Jarred Vanderbilt
Gabe Vincent
2029 Unprotected 1st
2031 1-4 Protected 1st

Kings trade
DeAaron Fox
Orlando Robinson

Post #2 » by **gswhoops** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:27 pm

The Lakers simply do not have the assets to make a competitive offer for Fox (unless they're willing to move AD). Plenty of teams would offer more than this.

JMAC3 · Post #3 » by **JMAC3** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:34 pm

In before some Laker fan says "take Reeves out and I would do it"

Myth · Post #4 » by **Myth** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:34 pm

The audacity to protect 2031 when it already isn’t enough.

SNPA · Post #5 » by **SNPA** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:44 pm

IBTL

Trade is irredeemably off.

redslastlaugh · Post #6 » by **redslastlaugh** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:47 pm

gswhoops wrote:The Lakers simply do not have the assets to make a competitive offer for Fox (unless they're willing to move AD). Plenty of teams would offer more than this.

I literally expected LAL fans to say back, “Uhhh, no, Reaves is better than Fox.”

Reaves and 2 FIRSTS seems fair to me. I suppose taking back the bad money of Gabe and Vando swings the balance too far.

redslastlaugh · Post #7 » by **redslastlaugh** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:49 pm

Myth wrote:The audacity to protect 2031 when it already isn’t enough.

Okay…

2029 FRP UNPROTECTED
2031 FRP UNPROTECTED

…so there, lol

DanishLakerFan · Post #8 » by **DanishLakerFan** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:07 pm

1. Fox is overrated.
2. San Antonio should just sign Fox as a free agent.

babyjax13 · Post #9 » by **babyjax13** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:12 pm

Sacramento will get better offers. LA has the assets for guys like Ingram/LaVine/Randle who are very flawed but still reasonably good.

Post #10 » by **jazzfan1971** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:12 pm

I suspect teams offer more.

redslastlaugh · Post #11 » by **redslastlaugh** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:14 pm

babyjax13 wrote:Sacramento will get better offers. LA has the assets for guys like Ingram/LaVine/Randle who are very flawed but still reasonably good.

Yes, but my understanding is that Fox wants 4yrs/$229 million extension from the team that trades for him … this lowers his value

babyjax13 · Post #12 » by **babyjax13** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:17 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:Sacramento will get better offers. LA has the assets for guys like Ingram/LaVine/Randle who are very flawed but still reasonably good.

Yes, but my understanding is that Fox wants 4yrs/$200 million … this lowers his value

Cap is rising 10 percent per year for the next 2 seasons, at least. If he is worth 40 million now (I think he is) then two years from now the equivalent will be about 49 million. I don't think that depresses his value at all.

Myth · Post #13 » by **Myth** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:18 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:
Myth wrote:The audacity to protect 2031 when it already isn’t enough.

Okay…

2029 FRP UNPROTECTED
2031 FRP UNPROTECTED

…so there, lol

Perfect. Now the Lakers just need to add a couple more assets.

redslastlaugh · Post #14 » by **redslastlaugh** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:20 pm

Myth wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:
Myth wrote:The audacity to protect 2031 when it already isn’t enough.

Okay…

2029 FRP UNPROTECTED
2031 FRP UNPROTECTED

…so there, lol

Perfect. Now the Lakers just need to add a couple more assets.

Fox is all star level player, but not all NBA (going forward) and the dude has won 3 playoff games in his career. Alex Caruso has had a more impactful career to this point as a 1st team all defense guard, despite Fox scoring and speed.

How many assets is Fox fairly worth?

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #15 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:25 pm

Which teams offering more than 2 unprotected picks and reaves? Orl and Spurs can but not convinced they will.

Myth · Post #16 » by **Myth** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:27 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:
Myth wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Okay…

2029 FRP UNPROTECTED
2031 FRP UNPROTECTED

…so there, lol

Perfect. Now the Lakers just need to add a couple more assets.

Fox is all star level player, but not all NBA (going forward) and the dude has won 3 playoff games in his career. Alex Caruso has had a more impactful career to this point as a 1st team all defense guard, despite Fox scoring and speed.

How many assets is Fox fairly worth?

Weird way to justify his value. Offer this package for Caruso if he is so much better.

jayjaysee · Post #17 » by **jayjaysee** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:30 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Which teams offering more than 2 unprotected picks and reaves? Orl and Spurs can but not convinced they will.

I would add Houston for sure and maybe before those two.

Brooklyn too good to tank.. Utah wants a star to pair with Lauri?

Myth · Post #18 » by **Myth** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:31 pm

jayjaysee wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Which teams offering more than 2 unprotected picks and reaves? Orl and Spurs can but not convinced they will.

I would add Houston for sure and maybe before those two.

Brooklyn too good to tank.. Utah wants a star to pair with Lauri?

Spurs would also eclipse this package I would think.

redslastlaugh · Post #19 » by **redslastlaugh** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:32 pm

Not saying Caruso is better but at his best he has been, arguably more impactful. Feel free to disagree but Alex Caruso is beside the point, I shouldn’t have even mentioned him.

To me, unless SAS wants to overpay with draft picks, I’d rather have Reaves and two Lakers firsts if I’m the Kings than a lot of the other deals I’ve seen suggested on Twitter. If Sacto can do better, they can do better.

jayjaysee · Post #20 » by **jayjaysee** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:38 pm

I do think if you flip Huerter with Vincent and the LAL picks and land Sac “Murray” it could work?

Not too sure on salaries. Or value. But at least it blends better and NOP might want two unprotected LAL firsts again.