Potential Zach Trade Partners? 24/25 Edition

[Dan Z]

My prediction is Zach will still be a Bull after the deadline, because there "wasn't a deal that made us better".

I'll be happy to be wrong, but I've got a pretty good feeling I'm correct.

I'm honestly expecting there to be zero movement before/at the deadline as they'll be flirting with the play-in once again.

I think they will trade Carter and Craig but wisely are waiting to see if they are needed in any kind of package
I think they will trade Vuc but are wisely trying to hedge his great season
Ball should have some value, I hate to get rid of him but I think you have to realize his health is such a wild card it's smarter to send him somewhere for a 2nd.
I don't think they will trade Zach because the market won't be there. Wisely.

They will do the smart things and not do the dumb things

I'd be surprised if anyone offers an expiring contract plus a 2nd for Lonzo. He's looked better than I expected so far, but is shooting .333 from the field and has only played in 13 games.

[Guru]

My prediction is Zach will still be a Bull after the deadline, because there "wasn't a deal that made us better".

I'll be happy to be wrong, but I've got a pretty good feeling I'm correct.

I'm honestly expecting there to be zero movement before/at the deadline as they'll be flirting with the play-in once again.

I think they will trade Carter and Craig but wisely are waiting to see if they are needed in any kind of package
I think they will trade Vuc but are wisely trying to hedge his great season
Ball should have some value, I hate to get rid of him but I think you have to realize his health is such a wild card it's smarter to send him somewhere for a 2nd.
I don't think they will trade Zach because the market won't be there. Wisely.

They will do the smart things and not do the dumb things

I'd be surprised if anyone offers an expiring contract plus a 2nd for Lonzo. He's looked better than I expected so far, but is shooting .333 from the field and has only played in 13 games.

He's looked fantastic and makes everyone on the floor better. His salary might be tough to get to though, but he would be absolutely coveted amongst playoff teams. Plus he is an expiring, that's a wash for another team.

[Dan Z]

I think they will trade Carter and Craig but wisely are waiting to see if they are needed in any kind of package
I think they will trade Vuc but are wisely trying to hedge his great season
Ball should have some value, I hate to get rid of him but I think you have to realize his health is such a wild card it's smarter to send him somewhere for a 2nd.
I don't think they will trade Zach because the market won't be there. Wisely.

They will do the smart things and not do the dumb things

I'd be surprised if anyone offers an expiring contract plus a 2nd for Lonzo. He's looked better than I expected so far, but is shooting .333 from the field and has only played in 13 games.

He's looked fantastic and makes everyone on the floor better. His salary might be tough to get to though, but he would be absolutely coveted amongst playoff teams. Plus he is an expiring, that's a wash for another team.

You'd take a bad contract for him? I wouldn't.

I doubt he's "coveted" by anyone right now. If a team wants him they can offer him a deal at the end of the year. I agree that he's looked better than expected, but like I said he's only played in 13 games and has a FG % of .333. That's not good.

[Guru]

I'd be surprised if anyone offers an expiring contract plus a 2nd for Lonzo. He's looked better than I expected so far, but is shooting .333 from the field and has only played in 13 games.

He's looked fantastic and makes everyone on the floor better. His salary might be tough to get to though, but he would be absolutely coveted amongst playoff teams. Plus he is an expiring, that's a wash for another team.

You'd take a bad contract for him? I wouldn't.

I doubt he's "coveted" by anyone right now. If a team wants him they can offer him a deal at the end of the year. I agree that he's looked better than expected, but like I said he's only played in 13 games and has a FG % of .333. That's not good.

If a team could match contracts for players they aren't playing for Ball who playoff teams would love to have just swapping expiring I am sure they would do that for a 2nd. What are you talking about taking on a bad contract?

[Dan Z]

He's looked fantastic and makes everyone on the floor better. His salary might be tough to get to though, but he would be absolutely coveted amongst playoff teams. Plus he is an expiring, that's a wash for another team.

You'd take a bad contract for him? I wouldn't.

I doubt he's "coveted" by anyone right now. If a team wants him they can offer him a deal at the end of the year. I agree that he's looked better than expected, but like I said he's only played in 13 games and has a FG % of .333. That's not good.

If a team could match contracts for players they aren't playing for Ball who playoff teams would love to have just swapping expiring I am sure they would do that for a 2nd. What are you talking about taking on a bad contract?

What you said in the bold above. Plus, a team has to have the right contracts to offer and who has that?

If I'm a GM I wouldn't give up a 2nd and expiring contracts for him.

[Guru]

You'd take a bad contract for him? I wouldn't.

I doubt he's "coveted" by anyone right now. If a team wants him they can offer him a deal at the end of the year. I agree that he's looked better than expected, but like I said he's only played in 13 games and has a FG % of .333. That's not good.

If a team could match contracts for players they aren't playing for Ball who playoff teams would love to have just swapping expiring I am sure they would do that for a 2nd. What are you talking about taking on a bad contract?

What you said in the bold above. Plus, a team has to have the right contracts to offer and who has that?

If I'm a GM I wouldn't give up a 2nd and expiring contracts for him.

I wouldn't take on a bad contract to get to him. A GM would absolutely give up a 2nd and expiring for him. Expirings are a wash. HE can help you win a championship. He will be even better with better players on the court.

[Dan Z]

If a team could match contracts for players they aren't playing for Ball who playoff teams would love to have just swapping expiring I am sure they would do that for a 2nd. What are you talking about taking on a bad contract?

What you said in the bold above. Plus, a team has to have the right contracts to offer and who has that?

If I'm a GM I wouldn't give up a 2nd and expiring contracts for him.

I wouldn't take on a bad contract to get to him. A GM would absolutely give up a 2nd and expiring for him. Expirings are a wash. HE can help you win a championship. He will be even better with better players on the court.

When the Bulls acquired Lonzo they traded Tomas Satoransky, Garrett Temple, a 2nd round pick and cash. You think he still has that value?

I guess we can agree to disagree. I'd be surprised if AK traded him.

[Guru]

What you said in the bold above. Plus, a team has to have the right contracts to offer and who has that?

If I'm a GM I wouldn't give up a 2nd and expiring contracts for him.

I wouldn't take on a bad contract to get to him. A GM would absolutely give up a 2nd and expiring for him. Expirings are a wash. HE can help you win a championship. He will be even better with better players on the court.

When the Bulls acquired Lonzo they traded Tomas Satoransky, Garrett Temple, a 2nd round pick and cash. You think he still has that value?

I guess we can agree to disagree. I'd be surprised if AK traded him.

The Ball trade was a sign and trade. They were willing to take anything.

[Dan Z]

I wouldn't take on a bad contract to get to him. A GM would absolutely give up a 2nd and expiring for him. Expirings are a wash. HE can help you win a championship. He will be even better with better players on the court.

When the Bulls acquired Lonzo they traded Tomas Satoransky, Garrett Temple, a 2nd round pick and cash. You think he still has that value?

I guess we can agree to disagree. I'd be surprised if AK traded him.

The Ball trade was a sign and trade. They were willing to take anything.

It was still a trade. An older Lonzo who was out 2.5 seasons has more value? He's only played in 14 out of the 33 games this year and hasn't put up good stats. Sure, he's looked better than expected, but I doubt teams are looking to give up assets for him. Like I said, we can agree to disagree.

I guess we'll see at the trade deadline (although I doubt AK will even try to trade him).

[Stratmaster]

When the Bulls acquired Lonzo they traded Tomas Satoransky, Garrett Temple, a 2nd round pick and cash. You think he still has that value?

I guess we can agree to disagree. I'd be surprised if AK traded him.

The Ball trade was a sign and trade. They were willing to take anything.

It was still a trade. An older Lonzo who was out 2.5 seasons has more value? He's only played in 14 out of the 33 games this year and hasn't put up good stats. Sure, he's looked better than expected, but I doubt teams are looking to give up assets for him. Like I said, we can agree to disagree.

I guess we'll see at the trade deadline (although I doubt AK will even try to trade him).

Lonzo had put up 1 good stat. The Bulls are 11 points better per 100 possessions when he plays. I can't think of any playoff team who wouldn't love to add that as long as they aren't giving up any of their top 4 players to get him.

[Charlesareed]

I hear the kings called about Zach lavine so why is he still on the team

[Red8911]

I hear the kings called about Zach lavine so why is he still on the team

Zach for Demar lol ? . Or do they really want to pair those two together again after Bulls already failed with them ? I know they have Sabonis/Fox as well but still idk how Zach fits in there with them.

[HomoSapien]

I hear the kings called about Zach lavine so why is he still on the team

It's hard for me to understand how Zach would fit in here, especially with them already having DeRozan but really the only trade that works here is Zach for Murray, Monk, and Huerter.

Some people are high on Murray. I've always been kind of lukewarm on him, but I'd be open to taking a look at him. He's shown some glimpses in the past. But then we're acquiring Monk for four years, who I do like but has a lot of redundancies with Coby and Ayo. Huerter is a kind of a useful throw-in, but we'd have a big guard glut that would make it hard to play him too. We'd also have to free up a few roster spots to make it happen.

It's not a slam dunk, but it is an interesting trade.

Edit: Salary wise Lyles instead of Murray works too, but then I'd be completely off-board.

[sco]

I hear the kings called about Zach lavine so why is he still on the team

It's hard for me to understand how Zach would fit in here, especially with them already having DeRozan but really the only trade that works here is Zach for Murray, Monk, and Huerter.

Some people are high on Murray. I've always been kind of lukewarm on him, but I'd be open to taking a look at him. He's shown some glimpses in the past. But then we're acquiring Monk for four years, who I do like but has a lot of redundancies with Coby and Ayo. Huerter is a kind of a useful throw-in, but we'd have a big guard glut that would make it hard to play him too. We'd also have to free up a few roster spots to make it happen.

It's not a slam dunk, but it is an interesting trade.

Edit: Salary wise Lyles instead of Murray works too, but then I'd be completely off-board.

To me Murray is the next "logical" AK acquistion in the mold of Giddey. I'd do the Murray, Monk, Huerter deal (optimistically with a 1st coming back, but probably without it). Monk is signed for 4 years as you say at $19 per, and he's only 26. His stats are Coby-like, and would allow us to trade Coby too without losing anything. Huerter isn't terrible, and his deal is only 1 more year, and may be movable in the offseason as an expiring.

[Charlesareed]

I hear the kings called about Zach lavine so why is he still on the team

Zach for Demar lol ? . Or do they really want to pair those two together again after Bulls already failed with them ? I know they have Sabonis/Fox as well but still idk how Zach fits in there with them.

This was my first thought aswell lol

[Muzbar]

I hear the kings called about Zach lavine so why is he still on the team

Zach for Demar lol ? . Or do they really want to pair those two together again after Bulls already failed with them ? I know they have Sabonis/Fox as well but still idk how Zach fits in there with them.

I'd imagine any trade for Zach would include Demar being traded elsewhere as he can't be traded back to Chicago anyways.

Zach would be a great fit in Sacto (assuming DDR) is gone, he'd EASILY be their best 3pt shooter, something they severely lack.

[Infinity2152]

I hear the kings called about Zach lavine so why is he still on the team

Zach for Demar lol ? . Or do they really want to pair those two together again after Bulls already failed with them ? I know they have Sabonis/Fox as well but still idk how Zach fits in there with them.

I'd imagine any trade for Zach would include Demar being traded elsewhere as he can't be traded back to Chicago anyways.

Zach would be a great fit in Sacto (assuming DDR) is gone, he'd EASILY be their best 3pt shooter, something they severely lack.

I was thinking the same, but that would be doing Derozan SOOOO dirty. Signs with you as a free agent this year, back in his home state, then traded to say Detroit without even getting a full season? Would hope if they do something like this, they give Debo some input on his destination. They just fired a popular coach, think Derozan probably has a longer leash.

Zach-Derozan actually worked with Ball, they have Fox and Sabonis. Zach/Debo stopped working when we lost Ball. Fox is far better than any PG we've started since and Sabonis is better on defense than Vucevic. On paper, it should work better than the lineup that had us at the top of the East. Certainly much better than what they currently have. Zach/Debo works much better when they're not starting with Coby White and Vucevic.

Devin Carter should be playing soon, he'll replace some of their bench production.

[Muzbar]

Zach for Demar lol ? . Or do they really want to pair those two together again after Bulls already failed with them ? I know they have Sabonis/Fox as well but still idk how Zach fits in there with them.

I'd imagine any trade for Zach would include Demar being traded elsewhere as he can't be traded back to Chicago anyways.

Zach would be a great fit in Sacto (assuming DDR) is gone, he'd EASILY be their best 3pt shooter, something they severely lack.

I was thinking the same, but that would be doing Derozan SOOOO dirty. Signs with you as a free agent this year, back in his home state, then traded to say Detroit without even getting a full season? Would hope if they do something like this, they give Debo some input on his destination. They just fired a popular coach, think Derozan probably has a longer leash.

Zach-Derozan actually worked with Ball, they have Fox and Sabonis. Zach/Debo stopped working when we lost Ball. Fox is far better than any PG we've started since and Sabonis is better on defense than Vucevic. On paper, it should work better than the lineup that had us at the top of the East. Certainly much better than what they currently have. Zach/Debo works much better when they're not starting with Coby White and Vucevic.

Devin Carter should be playing soon, he'll replace some of their bench production.

In the end, I guess it depends on where they send DDR. I proposed a trade idea in another thread that had him going to the Lakers.

I think DDR actually needs to go, they have no spacing, especially with Murray currently stinking it up. They're 24th in 3pt%, their 2 main guys operate around the rim or mid range. Same place as DDR.

DDR and Zach was a bad fit from the start, IMO.

[Infinity2152]

I'd imagine any trade for Zach would include Demar being traded elsewhere as he can't be traded back to Chicago anyways.

Zach would be a great fit in Sacto (assuming DDR) is gone, he'd EASILY be their best 3pt shooter, something they severely lack.

I was thinking the same, but that would be doing Derozan SOOOO dirty. Signs with you as a free agent this year, back in his home state, then traded to say Detroit without even getting a full season? Would hope if they do something like this, they give Debo some input on his destination. They just fired a popular coach, think Derozan probably has a longer leash.

Zach-Derozan actually worked with Ball, they have Fox and Sabonis. Zach/Debo stopped working when we lost Ball. Fox is far better than any PG we've started since and Sabonis is better on defense than Vucevic. On paper, it should work better than the lineup that had us at the top of the East. Certainly much better than what they currently have. Zach/Debo works much better when they're not starting with Coby White and Vucevic.

Devin Carter should be playing soon, he'll replace some of their bench production.

In the end, I guess it depends on where they send DDR. I proposed a trade idea in another thread that had him going to the Lakers.

I think DDR actually needs to go, they have no spacing, especially with Murray currently stinking it up. They're 24th in 3pt%, their 2 main guys operate around the rim or mid range. Same place as DDR.

DDR and Zach was a bad fit from the start, IMO.

Isn't it more that Demar is a bad fit in the modern NBA? He's on an entirely different team, no Zach. Don't know how much the Kings are actually looking to move Debo in the first place. So if they're NOT planning on trading him, who's a better fit that's available than Zach? If they don't want to stand pat, and they're not moving Derozan, who should they go after. Again, far from convinced the Zach/Derozan pairing was even close to the main problem with our team. Of course either guy would look better next to Paul George, but you're not getting him for Murray, Huerter and Monk.

[ChettheJet]

Happy New Year, happy new moves

Butler to HOU is one idea over on Bleacher report so why not
MIA doesn't really want a package of youth and picks, they want to contend right F'n now. The Bulls want that package

so, send Zach Lavine to MIA to score baskets, that's what he does.
Jimmy B to HOU
Eason, Tate, Londale and a spare pick from HOU to CHI

maybe the Bulls take Duncan Robinson and send Jevon Carter, Craig and Terry to MIA or find a fourth playoff team to take those 3 and send one good sized salary to the Bulls.