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Post#41 » by Hoops Addict » Mon Dec 2, 2024 8:37 pm

Crunch 99 wrote:I probably shouldn't post this article to avoid jinx potential, but....

Do the Utah Jazz have a shot at two lottery selections?
https://www.si.com/nba/jazz/news/t-wolves-slow-start-good-news-for-jazz-draft-outlook



This is not talked about in the article, but besides the Wolves' struggle to turn the Towns-Randle trade in to wins, I wonder if they went to the well with one too many contracts for Mike Conley. Given how great Conley shot the ball last season, 62.7 TS%, I am inclined to think Conley is just suffering an early season shooting slump, 49.3 TS%, and that he will pull out of the slump soon, but at age 37, there is also the possibility that father time claimed him.


MINNY is falling apart. They are blaming each other.......it's bad.....they are 1 major injury away from being a low draft pick. At 9-10 now, that pick would be #12.

Look on NBA Draft.net

Currently we have #3 and #12. #30.

https://www.nbadraft.net/
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Post#42 » by Catchall » Mon Dec 2, 2024 10:20 pm

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Crunch 99 wrote:I probably shouldn't post this article to avoid jinx potential, but....

Do the Utah Jazz have a shot at two lottery selections?
https://www.si.com/nba/jazz/news/t-wolves-slow-start-good-news-for-jazz-draft-outlook



This is not talked about in the article, but besides the Wolves' struggle to turn the Towns-Randle trade in to wins, I wonder if they went to the well with one too many contracts for Mike Conley. Given how great Conley shot the ball last season, 62.7 TS%, I am inclined to think Conley is just suffering an early season shooting slump, 49.3 TS%, and that he will pull out of the slump soon, but at age 37, there is also the possibility that father time claimed him.


MINNY is falling apart. They are blaming each other.......it's bad.....they are 1 major injury away from being a low draft pick. At 9-10 now, that pick would be #12.

Look on NBA Draft.net

Currently we have #3 and #12. #30.

https://www.nbadraft.net/


Getting a Kasparus Jakucionis or Drake Powell with the Twolves pick would be good news, imo.
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Post#43 » by Catchall » Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:07 pm

Welp, Kasparas looks like he'll go safely inside the top 10.

There are six guys at the top of this draft who look like really solid picks so far: Flagg, Harper, Bailey, Johnson, Jakucionis and Demin. As long as the Jazz can stay in that range, they'll get a substantial player.
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Post#44 » by Inigo Montoya » Sun Dec 15, 2024 9:28 pm

I agree. The Jazz could get a really nice player even without the #1 pick and even without a top 4 pick. But they are in a precarious position, in a random draw in draft sites the Jazz slipps down several spots way too often to my liking.
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Post#45 » by HadAnEffectHere » Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:18 am

I don't think there's any genuine game changers after 2.

Most guys are just too athletically limited or lacking in skill to have any realistic all-star projections other than Flagg and Harper.

Jak, Ace, Demin, and Tre are just not physically gifted enough. You pick them for them to hopefully be your #3 or #4.

Completely flat class from like 3 to 20.
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Post#46 » by Catchall » Thu Dec 26, 2024 3:18 am

If the Jazz don't get a top 6 pick, I'd be okay with Jeremiah Fears in the 7-9 range. I think he's at least a more viable prospect than Rob Dillingham last year.
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Post#47 » by Catchall » Thu Dec 26, 2024 3:25 am

HadAnEffectHere wrote:I don't think there's any genuine game changers after 2.

Most guys are just too athletically limited or lacking in skill to have any realistic all-star projections other than Flagg and Harper.

Jak, Ace, Demin, and Tre are just not physically gifted enough. You pick them for them to hopefully be your #3 or #4.

Completely flat class from like 3 to 20.


Demin is physically gifted enough to make a difference. He's a legit 6'8", athletic and should be a decent initiator. That's worth a lot. He also has a nice inside-outside defensive impact. His shooting has been a bit inconsistent, but his numbers for the season so far are still good.

Tre Johnson is as physically gifted as Devin Booker. He can handle and self create, as well as make shots all over the floor.

I think both these guys have #2 option and at least some All Star potential. Truthfully, I'd see Flagg and Harper as more #2 options. It's next year's draft that has a few guys who could be #1s.
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Post#48 » by Catchall » Wed Jan 1, 2025 1:08 am

Quick update on the top 5 - 7 guys I have right now:
1) Flagg - Still #1 though the gap has shrunk. He's still likely to have the greatest 2-way impact.
2) Harper - Versatile on-ball creator and potential advantage creator with elite size.
3) Johnson - Bankable scorer in the mold of a Devin Booker, Klay Thompson or Bradley Beal. Line-of-sight All Star potential.
4) Kasparas - Solid lead initiator with size and three-level potential. I'd just like to see him break the paint and create advantages more often. though it's possible that this is a system issue at Illinois.
5) Bailey - Inefficient on-ball creation and isolation scoring pushes him closer to the Trey Murphy archetype, and this assumes he'll be a plus defender. Can't deny his shooting gravity and ability to take and make tough shots.
6) Fears - Lead guard with quickness, shiftiness and versatility off the dribble. He needs to improve his 3pt shooting several points, but his FT shooting indicates he will.
7) Edgecombe - I need to see some more good shooting games to become a believer and I'm also concerned about his measurables, but no one else has convincingly shown greater potential at this stage.

HM: Demin's 2/21 3pt shooting over the past 4 games is giving me pause.
HM: Derik Queen might be ideal for a team who wants a high-post initiator and short-roll creator. He needs to be used the right way. He should be able to stretch his range.

It's going to suck big-time if the Jazz have to watch other teams take these top 6 guys.
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Post#49 » by Catchall » Thu Jan 2, 2025 1:55 am

Kasparas looks shiftier and more dynamic than I've seen in other games I've watched. There's some real upside here. A cheesey nickname for him would be 'Lithuanian Lamelo.' I'll probably put him back ahead of Fears.

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Post#50 » by Catchall » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:22 am

Ace Bailey showing his length defensively, making some tough buckets, and he even passes the ball a few times. He's likely favored to round out the top 3 in the class for most teams.

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Post#51 » by MalonesElbows » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:50 pm

Catchall wrote:Ace Bailey showing his length defensively, making some tough buckets, and he even passes the ball a few times. He's likely favored to round out the top 3 in the class for most teams.



His selfishness and lack of awareness is a red flag for the modern NBA. Some research would need to be done to see if any college player averaging less than 1.1 APG ever became a star in the NBA in the last 15 years. The 6'10" Marvin Bagley might be a similar case study. Very efficient in college (far more than Bailey), but lacked basketball IQ and has been a bench player in the NBA most his career.
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Post#52 » by Catchall » Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:21 pm

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Catchall wrote:Ace Bailey showing his length defensively, making some tough buckets, and he even passes the ball a few times. He's likely favored to round out the top 3 in the class for most teams.



His selfishness and lack of awareness is a red flag for the modern NBA. Some research would need to be done to see if any college player averaging less than 1.1 APG ever became a star in the NBA in the last 15 years. The 6'10" Marvin Bagley might be a similar case study. Very efficient in college (far more than Bailey), but lacked basketball IQ and has been a bench player in the NBA most his career.


He'd be the #2 option, imo, in the mold of a Brandon Miller, Trey Murphy, MPJ and Khris Middleton. You wouldn't run your offense through him, expect him to create advantages off the dribble, or rely on his passing. I think a coach in an NBA situation should be able to convince him to get off the ball. It's a fair question though.
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Post#53 » by AingesBurner » Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:59 am

Talent and willingness to play in Utah. Flagg and Demin.
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Post#54 » by babyjax13 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:39 pm

AingesBurner wrote:Talent and willingness to play in Utah. Flagg and Demin.

How do you know that Flagg would want to play in Utah?
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Post#55 » by AingesBurner » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:58 am

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AingesBurner wrote:Talent and willingness to play in Utah. Flagg and Demin.

How do you know that Flagg would want to play in Utah?


He’s from a small town in Maine so SLC is high falootin.
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Post#56 » by AingesBurner » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:03 am

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AingesBurner wrote:Talent and willingness to play in Utah. Flagg and Demin.

How do you know that Flagg would want to play in Utah?


It’s also cold as hell in Maine so he’s used to it. Every major prospect is either from a warm area or major city, how often do we hold onto those prospects? Demon is from Moscow but Europeans tend to like SLC and he already plays for BYU. You have to draft the stars that will most likely stay.
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Post#57 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:30 am

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babyjax13 wrote:
AingesBurner wrote:Talent and willingness to play in Utah. Flagg and Demin.

How do you know that Flagg would want to play in Utah?


He’s from a small town in Maine so SLC is high falootin.

Maybe, or he could want to be in the Northeast near home. I just don't think there is any clearer signal for him than most other players.
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Re: The Official 2025 NBA Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#58 » by Inigo Montoya » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:47 am

I honestly don't care where a future draft pick wants to play. If he's the best prospect for your team, you draft him and figure it out later. Should we draft a worse player because player X doesn't want to play in Utah? They have no control over where they play, that's how the system works unless you're Bronny James.
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Re: The Official 2025 NBA Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#59 » by Hoops Addict » Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:54 am

https://www.nbadraft.net/2025-nba-draft-extended-mock-draft-2-0/

Check out the new Extended MOck Draft.

If the draft was today I think the Jazz would pick #3, #12, #30.

MInny guard Divencenzo was injured.....wearing a boot.

Minny is an injury away from giving us a #10-#16 draft pick.



Timberwolves lost a a few more games.
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Post#60 » by Hoops Addict » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:39 am

Try the Simulated Lottery.

https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

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