Game 34: Knicks vs Utah@MSG: 1/1/2025; 7:30pm. MSG-Gotham App

[Context]

Remember when folks complained we weren’t beating good teams ? Knicks have a 13-5 record vs winning teams and we’re just getting started

https://clutchpoints.com/nba/new-york-knicks/records

Clutch points has already been debunked. No one can name those 13 winning teams we beat cause it never happened, so not sure how they came up with that.

We have a 8-6 record against teams with a winning record. That's the real record. But we are def getting better. I am fully ready to become a homer if we beat OKC

Yes and No. The 13-5 stat is based on what the opponent record was at the time they played the Knicks. The 8-6 record is based on the current standings of the teams the Knicks played. While both stats are accurate, you have to keep in mind the 8-6 can easily change to a different stat daily as team records change daily. The 8-6 doesn't include the Indy win because they're 16-18 (a losing team). Same can be said for Philly. In 2 weeks, both teams can have the winning records stat changed to 10-6. I would hold off until end of season to use that metric.

mel...Spree has made a good point here...
Which reminds me of our SAS Christmas game. When we played them they were 15-14- ie +500...when they lost to us they became
a 500 team. This is why I always base everything on context first no pun intended...

[HerSports85]

Remember when folks complained we weren’t beating good teams ? Knicks have a 13-5 record vs winning teams and we’re just getting started

https://clutchpoints.com/nba/new-york-knicks/records

Clutch points has already been debunked. No one can name those 13 winning teams we beat cause it never happened, so not sure how they came up with that.

We have a 8-6 record against teams with a winning record. That's the real record. But we are def getting better. I am fully ready to become a homer if we beat OKC

Yes and No. The 13-5 stat is based on what the opponent record was at the time they played the Knicks. The 8-6 record is based on the current standings of the teams the Knicks played. While both stats are accurate, you have to keep in mind the 8-6 can easily change to a different stat daily as team records change daily. The 8-6 doesn't include the Indy win because they're 16-18 (a losing team). Same can be said for Philly. In 2 weeks, both teams can have the winning records stat changed to 10-6. I would hold off until end of season to use that metric.

I will assume that this is why we keep rising in the power rankings as well. It’s all about that team record when you face them.

But I agree, I rather look at this in the middle and end of the season.

[TheGreenArrow]

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Hey man even jhart says it…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[K_ick_God]

Jesus

[TheGreenArrow]

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Not good imo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No bench!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HarthorneWingo]

I think it's time to ask what the Knicks RealGM winning streak record? I think that rajajackal had a 7-game winning streak at the end of last season. I think Context must be in the running.

[Iron Mantis]

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Not good imo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No bench!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That can't be correct

[Context]

I think it's time to ask what the Knicks RealGM winning streak record? I think that rajajackal had a 7-game winning streak at the end of last season. I think Context must be in the running.

Raj is my guy Wingo...shout out to Raj...
I was told under Thib's Knick tenure 9 games was the longest streak...
I just want us to break the all time record which I think is 18 games- just for the sake of Knick team confidence and Knick realgm board confidence...I think it will do a lot to move us in a more unified direction Wingo

[HarthorneWingo]

I think it's time to ask what the Knicks RealGM winning streak record? I think that rajajackal had a 7-game winning streak at the end of last season. I think Context must be in the running.

Raj is my guy Wingo...shout out to Raj...
I was told under Thib's Knick tenure 9 games was the longest streak...
I just want us to break the all time record which I think is 18 games- just for the sake of Knick team confidence and Knick realgm board confidence...I think it will do a lot to move us in a more unified direction Wingo

Yes, Captain.

[Jeff Van Gully]

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Not good imo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No bench!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That can't be correct

Health and cohesiveness

[Guano]

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Hey man even jhart says it…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There might be other greats but no one greater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spree2kawhi]

Let’s watch Sexton too.

[Context]

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Not good imo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No bench!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

According to Gilbert Arenas, players in the NBA get injured frequently because they often go from minimal training to playing high-intensity games immediately, meaning their bodies aren't adequately prepared for the sudden strain, and they frequently play through injuries without proper recovery time, leading to further complications; he also criticizes the lack of sufficient game-speed training during pre-season compared to the intensity of actual games.
Key points from Arenas' perspective:
Lack of proper preparation:
Players might not be adequately conditioned for the demands of a game due to a lack of high-intensity training during the off-season or pre-season.
Playing through pain:
Athletes often feel pressure to play through injuries, even when not fully healed, which can exacerbate the issue.
Intensity gap between practice and games:
Training drills in practice might not replicate the same level of physical exertion as a real game, leading to unpreparedness when facing high pressure situations.

“The reason you guys are getting these dumba** injuries is you guys are going from zero to 100 real fast,” Arenas said on the 'Gil's Arena' podcast. “You're starting off in the preseason, not really getting into condition.Dec 10, 2024

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Lets just hope that our Knicks are getting in shape with all of these mintues and will be stronger than the rest of the contenders come
play-off time..
In the mean time -I think some of you should check out the^ video to gain a deeper perspective on the matter...

[aq_ua]

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Not good imo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No bench!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That can't be correct

Through the first 8 games or something? Even if you adjust for missed games, it means the Hawks play their starting 5 less than 10 minutes per game. Something way off there.

[Iron Mantis]

Clutch points has already been debunked. No one can name those 13 winning teams we beat cause it never happened, so not sure how they came up with that.

We have a 8-6 record against teams with a winning record. That's the real record. But we are def getting better. I am fully ready to become a homer if we beat OKC

Yes and No. The 13-5 stat is based on what the opponent record was at the time they played the Knicks. The 8-6 record is based on the current standings of the teams the Knicks played. While both stats are accurate, you have to keep in mind the 8-6 can easily change to a different stat daily as team records change daily. The 8-6 doesn't include the Indy win because they're 16-18 (a losing team). Same can be said for Philly. In 2 weeks, both teams can have the winning records stat changed to 10-6. I would hold off until end of season to use that metric.

mel...Spree has made a good point here...
Which reminds me of our SAS Christmas game. When we played them they were 15-14- ie +500...when they lost to us they became
a 500 team. This is why I always base everything on context first no pun intended...

Here's what I came up with.

Teams we beat that were .500 or better when we played them:

1. Pacers
2. Heat
3. Suns
4. Nuggets
5. Magic
6. Twolves
7. Magic
8. Spurs
9. Magic


Teams we lost to that were .500 or better when we played them:

1. Celtics
2 Cavs
3. Rockets
4. Mavs
5. Hawks


Teams we beat that were below .500 when we played them:

1. Wiz
2. Sixers
3. Pistons
4. Hornets
5. Bucks
6. Nets
7. Nets
8. Hornets
9. Pelicans
10. Raps
11. Pelicans
12. Raps
13. Wiz
14. Wiz


Teams we lost to that were below .500 when we played them:

1. Jazz
2. Hawks
3. Pacers
4. Bulls
5. Pistons

[Context]

Yes and No. The 13-5 stat is based on what the opponent record was at the time they played the Knicks. The 8-6 record is based on the current standings of the teams the Knicks played. While both stats are accurate, you have to keep in mind the 8-6 can easily change to a different stat daily as team records change daily. The 8-6 doesn't include the Indy win because they're 16-18 (a losing team). Same can be said for Philly. In 2 weeks, both teams can have the winning records stat changed to 10-6. I would hold off until end of season to use that metric.

mel...Spree has made a good point here...
Which reminds me of our SAS Christmas game. When we played them they were 15-14- ie +500...when they lost to us they became
a 500 team. This is why I always base everything on context first no pun intended...

Here's what I came up with.

Teams we beat that were .500 or better when we played them:

1. Pacers
2. Heat
3. Suns
4. Nuggets
5. Magic
6. Twolves
7. Magic
8. Spurs
9. Magic


Teams we lost to that were .500 or better when we played them:

1. Celtics
2 Cavs
3. Rockets
4. Mavs
5. Hawks


Teams we beat that were below .500 when we played them:

1. Wiz
2. Sixers
3. Pistons
4. Hornets
5. Bucks
6. Nets
7. Nets
8. Hornets
9. Pelicans
10. Raps
11. Pelicans
12. Raps
13. Wiz
14. Wiz


Teams we lost to that were below .500 when we played them:

1. Jazz
2. Hawks
3. Pacers
4. Bulls
5. Pistons

now we need to add in dates(the earlier the date- the less chemistry our team had)
and we need to know which games only had the 6 man roation running as well...

[Deeeez Knicks]

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No bench!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That can't be correct

Through the first 8 games or something? Even if you adjust for missed games, it means the Hawks play their starting 5 less than 10 minutes per game. Something way off there.

It's minutes that all 5 starters are the floor at the same time. 13 minutes per game for the Knicks so makes sense. Thibs almost always closes with the same 5 this year. On one end it is good to have a clear top 5, on the other we do need to establish the bench a little more

[3toheadmelo]

Yes and No. The 13-5 stat is based on what the opponent record was at the time they played the Knicks. The 8-6 record is based on the current standings of the teams the Knicks played. While both stats are accurate, you have to keep in mind the 8-6 can easily change to a different stat daily as team records change daily. The 8-6 doesn't include the Indy win because they're 16-18 (a losing team). Same can be said for Philly. In 2 weeks, both teams can have the winning records stat changed to 10-6. I would hold off until end of season to use that metric.

mel...Spree has made a good point here...
Which reminds me of our SAS Christmas game. When we played them they were 15-14- ie +500...when they lost to us they became
a 500 team. This is why I always base everything on context first no pun intended...

Here's what I came up with.

Teams we beat that were .500 or better when we played them:

1. Pacers
2. Heat
3. Suns
4. Nuggets
5. Magic
6. Twolves
7. Magic
8. Spurs
9. Magic


Teams we lost to that were .500 or better when we played them:

1. Celtics
2 Cavs
3. Rockets
4. Mavs
5. Hawks


Teams we beat that were below .500 when we played them:

1. Wiz
2. Sixers
3. Pistons
4. Hornets
5. Bucks
6. Nets
7. Nets
8. Hornets
9. Pelicans
10. Raps
11. Pelicans
12. Raps
13. Wiz
14. Wiz


Teams we lost to that were below .500 when we played them:

1. Jazz
2. Hawks
3. Pacers
4. Bulls
5. Pistons

So far we haven’t beaten any team in the top 4 of each conference (Orlando was missing banchero/franz). I think once we start beating those teams we’ll really see the true potential of this squad. The Denver and Minny wins are the most impressive games so far. If we can replicate that against a team like Boston/Cavs

[JXL]

I think it's time to ask what the Knicks RealGM winning streak record? I think that rajajackal had a 7-game winning streak at the end of last season. I think Context must be in the running.

Other than me (9 game win streak after J-Hart got traded here), who did the 12 game win streak in 2013?

[Context]

I think it's time to ask what the Knicks RealGM winning streak record? I think that rajajackal had a 7-game winning streak at the end of last season. I think Context must be in the running.

Other than me (9 game win streak after J-Hart got traded here), who did the 12 game win streak in 2013?

You posting in the thread is good luck