ATL - LAC - SAC - SAS

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ATL Gets: PJ Tucker, Trey Lyles, Bones Hyland, Amir Coffey, 2026 SAC 1st (changing from top 10 protected to unprotected), 2026 LAC/MEM 2nd (Less favorable of the two), & 2030 LAC/UTA 2nd (Less favorable for the two)
ATL Gives: De'Andre Hunter, Larry Nance, Cody Zeller, & 2025 SAC 1st (Top 12 Protected)
Why for ATL? The Hawks do this to ensure that they will get a 1st since the Kings could easily be a bottom 12 team this year and a bottom 10 team next year (leaving the Hawks with only 2 2nds to show for the original Huerter trade). They also add 2 future 2nd round picks to add to their asset pool. They lose Hunter and Nance, but the Hawks have a lot of young, promising wings/forwards (Daniels, Risacher, & Johnson) and a couple good/solid Cs (Capela & Okongwu) so I don't think they will miss these guys all that much (especially since Coffey can give some solid minutes at the wing spot). Hyland should also be an upgrade at backup PG for them which can help them out this season (and he'd be a RFA next season so they have the flexibility to keep him long term if they think he's a good long term fit). Lyles maybe helpful as a deep bench PF/C but he (and Tucker) are expirings which can help their cap a bit.

PG - Young / Hyland / Krejci
SG - Daniels / Bogdanovic / Matthews / Bufkin
SF - Risacher / Coffey / Tucker
PF - Johnson / Roddy / Gueye
C - Capela / Okongwu / Lyles

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LAC Gets: DeMar DeRozan
LAC Gives: PJ Tucker, Bones Hyland, Amir Coffey, 2026 LAC/MEM 2nd (Less favorable of the two), 2030 LAC/UTA 2nd (Less favorable for the two), & 2031 LAC 2nd
Why for LAC? The Clippers are 22nd in ORTG and 4th in DRTG. They could really use another playmaker & shotmaker to help carry the offense (especially since Leonard rarely plays). If Leonard is able to come back healthy, perhaps a Leonard, Harden, & DeRozan trio (surrounded by lengthy defenders who can space the floor) is enough to make some noise in the western conference. They could even look at making DeRozan a super 6th man which would allow the Clippers to prioritize a strong defensive starting lineup out of the gate.

PG - Harden / Dunn / Porter
SG - Powell / Mann / Christie
SF - DeRozan / Jones
PF - Leonard / Batum / Brown
C - Zubac / Bamba

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SAC Gets: De'Andre Hunter, Zach Collins, Larry Nance Jr, & 2025 SAC 1st (Top 12 Protected)
SAC Gives: DeMar DeRozan, Kevin Huerter, Trey Lyles, & 2026 SAC 1st (Unprotected)
Why for Kings? The Kings try to shake things up and add a lot more size, length, and defense around their core. Hunter can also help replace some of the scoring that DeRozan gives the Kings while being longer, a better shooter, and a better defender than DeRozan. Collins gives them a solid shotblocking backup C who isn't a stiff on offense. Nance gives them another good defender at the PF/C spot who can be an excellent lob threat while also spacing the floor a bit. By moving Huerter, this also opens up the log jam at the guard spot a bit which gives Devin Carter the ability to get some minutes (since he will be making his NBA debut any day now).

PG - Fox / Monk / McLaughlin
SG - Ellis / Carter / Jones
SF - Hunter / McDermott
PF - Murray / Nance / Crowder
C - Sabonis / Collins / Len / Robinson

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SAS Gets: Kevin Huerter, Cody Zeller, & 2031 LAC 2nd
SAS Gives: Zach Collins
Why for SAS? Huerter and Collins have virtually identical contracts in amount and length, so they swap Collins for some more shooting/spacing around Wemby while also picking up a future 2nd.

PG - Paul / Castle / Jones
SG - Vassell / Huerter / Branham / Wesley
SF - Champagnie / Johnson / Cissoko
PF - Barnes / Sochan / Mamukelashvili
C - Wembanyama / Zeller / Bassey

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ATL Gets: PJ Tucker, Trey Lyles, Bones Hyland, Amir Coffey, 2026 SAC 1st (changing from top 10 protected to unprotected), 2026 LAC/MEM 2nd (Less favorable of the two), & 2030 LAC/UTA 2nd (Less favorable for the two)
ATL Gives: De'Andre Hunter, Larry Nance, Cody Zeller, & 2025 SAC 1st (Top 12 Protected)
Why for ATL? The Hawks do this to ensure that they will get a 1st since the Kings could easily be a bottom 12 team this year and a bottom 10 team next year (leaving the Hawks with only 2 2nds to show for the original Huerter trade). They also add 2 future 2nd round picks to add to their asset pool. They lose Hunter and Nance, but the Hawks have a lot of young, promising wings/forwards (Daniels, Risacher, & Johnson) and a couple good/solid Cs (Capela & Okongwu) so I don't think they will miss these guys all that much (especially since Coffey can give some solid minutes at the wing spot). Hyland should also be an upgrade at backup PG for them which can help them out this season (and he'd be a RFA next season so they have the flexibility to keep him long term if they think he's a good long term fit). Lyles maybe helpful as a deep bench PF/C but he (and Tucker) are expirings which can help their cap a bit.

PG - Young / Hyland / Krejci
SG - Daniels / Bogdanovic / Matthews / Bufkin
SF - Risacher / Coffey / Tucker
PF - Johnson / Roddy / Gueye
C - Capela / Okongwu / Lyles

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Hawks pass.
Winning is currently more important than securing the Kings 1st, if it turns into 2 2nds so be it.
They also currently own the LAL 2025 unprotected 1st.
Hunter is stabilizing the bench unit scoring 20ppg on remarkable efficiency and is also finishing games.

[bpcox05]

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ATL Gets: PJ Tucker, Trey Lyles, Bones Hyland, Amir Coffey, 2026 SAC 1st (changing from top 10 protected to unprotected), 2026 LAC/MEM 2nd (Less favorable of the two), & 2030 LAC/UTA 2nd (Less favorable for the two)
ATL Gives: De'Andre Hunter, Larry Nance, Cody Zeller, & 2025 SAC 1st (Top 12 Protected)
Why for ATL? The Hawks do this to ensure that they will get a 1st since the Kings could easily be a bottom 12 team this year and a bottom 10 team next year (leaving the Hawks with only 2 2nds to show for the original Huerter trade). They also add 2 future 2nd round picks to add to their asset pool. They lose Hunter and Nance, but the Hawks have a lot of young, promising wings/forwards (Daniels, Risacher, & Johnson) and a couple good/solid Cs (Capela & Okongwu) so I don't think they will miss these guys all that much (especially since Coffey can give some solid minutes at the wing spot). Hyland should also be an upgrade at backup PG for them which can help them out this season (and he'd be a RFA next season so they have the flexibility to keep him long term if they think he's a good long term fit). Lyles maybe helpful as a deep bench PF/C but he (and Tucker) are expirings which can help their cap a bit.

PG - Young / Hyland / Krejci
SG - Daniels / Bogdanovic / Matthews / Bufkin
SF - Risacher / Coffey / Tucker
PF - Johnson / Roddy / Gueye
C - Capela / Okongwu / Lyles

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Hawks pass.
Winning is currently more important than securing the Kings 1st, if it turns into 2 2nds so be it.
They also currently own the LAL 2025 unprotected 1st.
Hunter is stabilizing the bench unit scoring 20ppg on remarkable efficiency and is also finishing games.

Are the Hawks not looking to trade Hunter in general right now?

[ejftw]

Take out the seconds and swap Coffey with Porter and maybe Clippers will consider this.

[wemby]

The basic idea (Huerter for Zach Collins) is a resounding yes from the Spurs. No picks necessary.

[longfellow44]

The basic idea (Huerter for Zach Collins) is a resounding yes from the Spurs. No picks necessary.

I agree with this, I think it works for the kings as well. I like Collins as a poor man's version of sabonis that can stretch the floor a little.

[One_and_Done]

If I'm the Spurs I'm not trying to trade for flawed pieces. The trade is a win for them talent wise, but they're better off using their available salary for long term fits.

[jayu70]

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ATL Gets: PJ Tucker, Trey Lyles, Bones Hyland, Amir Coffey, 2026 SAC 1st (changing from top 10 protected to unprotected), 2026 LAC/MEM 2nd (Less favorable of the two), & 2030 LAC/UTA 2nd (Less favorable for the two)
ATL Gives: De'Andre Hunter, Larry Nance, Cody Zeller, & 2025 SAC 1st (Top 12 Protected)
Why for ATL? The Hawks do this to ensure that they will get a 1st since the Kings could easily be a bottom 12 team this year and a bottom 10 team next year (leaving the Hawks with only 2 2nds to show for the original Huerter trade). They also add 2 future 2nd round picks to add to their asset pool. They lose Hunter and Nance, but the Hawks have a lot of young, promising wings/forwards (Daniels, Risacher, & Johnson) and a couple good/solid Cs (Capela & Okongwu) so I don't think they will miss these guys all that much (especially since Coffey can give some solid minutes at the wing spot). Hyland should also be an upgrade at backup PG for them which can help them out this season (and he'd be a RFA next season so they have the flexibility to keep him long term if they think he's a good long term fit). Lyles maybe helpful as a deep bench PF/C but he (and Tucker) are expirings which can help their cap a bit.

PG - Young / Hyland / Krejci
SG - Daniels / Bogdanovic / Matthews / Bufkin
SF - Risacher / Coffey / Tucker
PF - Johnson / Roddy / Gueye
C - Capela / Okongwu / Lyles

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Hawks pass.
Winning is currently more important than securing the Kings 1st, if it turns into 2 2nds so be it.
They also currently own the LAL 2025 unprotected 1st.
Hunter is stabilizing the bench unit scoring 20ppg on remarkable efficiency and is also finishing games.

Are the Hawks not looking to trade Hunter in general right now?

If they are it's to UPGRADE the team with a better player(s), not pick(s).

[dms269]

I don't see Atlanta moving Hunter and Nance for this. Hunter has been amazing this year for Atlanta and that production isn't easily replaced, especially when Daniels and Risacher aren't great offensively and our second unit needs someone who can score. Nance has been great with Okongwu/Capela out as well.

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The basic idea (Huerter for Zach Collins) is a resounding yes from the Spurs. No picks necessary.

Yeah I was thinking about this some more. I think the Spurs are winning on value here. Probably makes more sense for the Spurs to be ones adding a 2nd to Collins in order to get Huerter.

[LightTheBeam]

The basic idea (Huerter for Zach Collins) is a resounding yes from the Spurs. No picks necessary.

I like this a lot. I think it helps both teams. I also think Huerter needs a change, and the Spurs are the kind of team that would be perfect for him. He's lost his confidence here, in SA he can live off CP3/Wemby and that great defense while getting back to focusing on his shooting.

I'd do this even if the other teams say no, then figure out Demar for a forward later.

[LightTheBeam]

The basic idea (Huerter for Zach Collins) is a resounding yes from the Spurs. No picks necessary.

Yeah I was thinking about this some more. I think the Spurs are winning on value here. Probably makes more sense for the Spurs to be ones adding a 2nd to Collins in order to get Huerter.

This is the kind of mentality that leads to Monte making no moves. Who cares about winning a 2nd or losing a 2nd. Does the trade improve the Kings? Yes. Okay that's enough. It solves our backup big issue and eliminates Len from ever seeing the floor. Salary neutral.

[wemby]

If I'm the Spurs I'm not trying to trade for flawed pieces. The trade is a win for them talent wise, but they're better off using their available salary for long term fits.

Spurs aren't commiting to any more salary than they had already, Huerter and Collins have almost the exact same contract. In fact Collins make a tiny bit less (next year 90K less).

[wemby]

The basic idea (Huerter for Zach Collins) is a resounding yes from the Spurs. No picks necessary.

Yeah I was thinking about this some more. I think the Spurs are winning on value here. Probably makes more sense for the Spurs to be ones adding a 2nd to Collins in order to get Huerter.

This is the kind of mentality that leads to Monte making no moves. Who cares about winning a 2nd or losing a 2nd. Does the trade improve the Kings? Yes. Okay that's enough. It solves our backup big issue and eliminates Len from ever seeing the floor. Salary neutral.

I kind of feel the same from the Spurs side. Take away Tre Jones and I can't remember how long it'd been since they'd made the most of a second round pick, so I wouldn't be so picky if I feel a trade helps even somewhat.

[One_and_Done]

If I'm the Spurs I'm not trying to trade for flawed pieces. The trade is a win for them talent wise, but they're better off using their available salary for long term fits.

Spurs aren't commiting to any more salary than they had already, Huerter and Collins have almost the exact same contract. In fact Collins make a tiny bit less (next year 90K less).

Yeh but they should be trying to use Collins salary for a much better piece (or waiting till that's possible).

[wemby]

If I'm the Spurs I'm not trying to trade for flawed pieces. The trade is a win for them talent wise, but they're better off using their available salary for long term fits.

Spurs aren't commiting to any more salary than they had already, Huerter and Collins have almost the exact same contract. In fact Collins make a tiny bit less (next year 90K less).

Yeh but they should be trying to use Collins salary for a much better piece (or waiting till that's possible).

If it comes to that they could still use Huerter for that purpose, so it's not like it hurts the Spurs in any way. Events have unfolded in a way where Zach Collins' role has been reduced in favor of Wemby, Sochan, Barnes, Bassey... why stand pat if a given move costs nothing and may help?

[One_and_Done]

Because without a training camp to learn the system and plays Huertet will (in the short term) hurt the team, and if he's not a long term piece why bother? He's a high risk of getting hurt too.

[wemby]

Because without a training camp to learn the system and plays Huertet will (in the short term) hurt the team, and if he's not a long term piece why bother? He's a high risk of getting hurt too.

Sorry, but this feels like saying no for the sake of it.
Do the Spurs lose a significant contributor? No
Do the Spurs lose a long term piece? No
Does Huerter pose a more significant injury risk than Zach Collins? No
Does swapping Zach Collins for Huerter hurt the team financially? No
I don't buy a shooter needs to 'learn the system' when the S'purs don't run particularly complex sets and all he be asked to do is catch and shoot. Worst case scenario he rides the bench, which is the case already with Zach Collins. I can understand not wanting to pay assets, but if it's a straight up swap and there's no imminent move for Zach Collins, Spurs should 100% do this.

[One_and_Done]

Because without a training camp to learn the system and plays Huertet will (in the short term) hurt the team, and if he's not a long term piece why bother? He's a high risk of getting hurt too.

Sorry, but this feels like saying no for the sake of it.
Do the Spurs lose a significant contributor? No
Do the Spurs lose a long term piece? No
Does Huerter pose a more significant injury risk than Zach Collins? No
Does swapping Zach Collins for Huerter hurt the team financially? No
I don't buy a shooter needs to 'learn the system' when the S'purs don't run particularly complex sets and all he be asked to do is catch and shoot. Worst case scenario he rides the bench, which is the case already with Zach Collins. I can understand not wanting to pay assets, but if it's a straight up swap and there's no imminent move for Zach Collins, Spurs should 100% do this.

I think this is where more people need to consider the mindset of the FO involved in a trade. The Spurs are starting to really gel. The Spurs are a very conservative organisation that doesn't make many trades unless they're really sure it'll work. The Spurs are a classy organisation who has a great rep for the human element of player relations. The Spurs already have a bunch of young wing & guard prospects fighting for minutes.

So with that context, I find it rather implausible that they're going to trade much loved locker room guy Zach Collins, who has been with the team for 4 years, for what is likely to be a marginal upgrade. As I explained Huerter isn't likely to see much time on the floor, coming in to a new system he doesn't know and looking pretty poor for Sacramento as it is. It's doubtful Huerter would be with the team long term, and he's always got some kind of niggling injury.

This is more of a Morey trade, where the human consequences are irrelevant and you just want to get every extra smidge of talent you can just in case. The Spurs don't operate that way.

[mg]

Last thing the Clips need is Demar. Kawhi is coming back and Norm is having an under the radar all star type season. They also have Harden and younger wings such as Coffey, Brown, and Mann. Dunn has basically been a wing defender too. There are no minutes for Demar.

Clips need to replace Kevin Porter Jr and Mo Bamba in the rotation. I'm assuming they will trade the PJ/Bones contracts + some kind of draft compensation even if it's just swaps to add a bench PG/scorer and a backup center.