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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#281 » by 720 » Wed Jan 1, 2025 6:24 pm

This was back when Cooper was 16 years old I think, so earlier last year. Him playing against Barrett. He looks about 2 maybe 3 inches taller than RJ.



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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#282 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed Jan 1, 2025 6:27 pm

PushDaRock wrote:The gap between the Top 2 and the rest seems to be widening. You're probably a bit disappointed picking 3 through 5 as the gap in talent from 3-10 doesn't appear that wide and every team's board might be all over the place.


If you presume that Ace is the 3rd best prospect than it's a chasm. But I have him currently way lower and I don't think there's as much of a gap. Maybe in terms of prospect status (I doubt a team is going to go way off board in the top 5), but there seem to be a lot of really strong prospects that could easily end up better than Flagg and Harper.
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Post#283 » by Raptorfan2012 » Wed Jan 1, 2025 6:28 pm

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TorontoBarneys wrote:I'd take Tre over Ace if that was our choice. Not a believer in Ace, looks like a roleplayer.


Like Rashard Lewis? What if Ace grows 1 more inch? Then he might be able to play C, and his comp might be Jabari Smith Jr.


We can probably just trade for Jabari Smith Jr provided we offer the right assets. Houston has some bills to pay in the coming offseason.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#284 » by Bruin » Wed Jan 1, 2025 7:59 pm

I’ve seen people compare VJ to Ant Edwards but I see more Oladipo
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#285 » by Psubs » Wed Jan 1, 2025 8:46 pm

Bruin wrote:I’ve seen people compare VJ to Ant Edwards but I see more Oladipo


Amen Thompson without a broken shot.

Well at least Amen has gone from 13.8% to 26.2%. Maybe he keeps working, then in his prime can get up to 30-32% then he'd be as good as MJ and Kobe from long-distance. :D



Bruin wrote:I’ve seen people compare VJ to Ant Edwards but I see more Oladipo


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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#286 » by Pointgod » Wed Jan 1, 2025 8:55 pm

DelAbbot wrote:I can't decide if Dylan Harper is a bigger Jalen Brunson or a slower / middle-class man's SGA

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#287 » by ImaBeatDatAzz » Wed Jan 1, 2025 9:02 pm

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ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:For me we are good if we land top 4. After that I’d be depressed ngl. My 4 in order is Harper, Flagg, Edgecomb, and Tre. (Ace is 5)

Those are the only game changers in my eyes

Praying for 1st or 2nd tho.


There are probably a few other players with a chance at reaching all-star level. The four you mentioned all have flaws that could potentially limit their upside

I would only stretch it out to Fears. The rest idk
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#288 » by bluerap23 » Wed Jan 1, 2025 9:13 pm

Psubs wrote:
Bruin wrote:I’ve seen people compare VJ to Ant Edwards but I see more Oladipo


Amen Thompson without a broken shot.

Well at least Amen has gone from 13.8% to 26.2%. Maybe he keeps working, then in his prime can get up to 30-32% then he'd be as good as MJ and Kobe from long-distance. :D



Bruin wrote:I’ve seen people compare VJ to Ant Edwards but I see more Oladipo


Russell Westbrook


He’s nice but probably the worst fit on this team in the top 10.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#289 » by bluerap23 » Wed Jan 1, 2025 9:19 pm

DG88 wrote:Wasserman updated mock draft for 2025
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10148564-2025-nba-mock-draft-pro-comparisons-and-full-2-round-predictions

1. Cooper Flagg
2. Dylan Harper
3. Toronto Raptors: Ace Bailey

Toronto Raptors record: 7-25

Team: Rutgers

Position: SF

Size: 6'10", 200 lbs

Age: 18

Nationality: USA

Pro Comparisons: Brandon Miller, Michael Porter Jr.

Ace Bailey looked like the ultimate zone killer against Columbia on Monday with his ability to catch, rise and fire from inside the defense and behind the arc.

It's a difficult skill to defend from a 6'10" wing, and one that will continue to create advantages for him at the next level.

Shooting 45.1 percent off the dribble, Bailey also has that special knack for separating into jumpers and hitting contested ones from any spot.

There will be scouts who question his shot selection, tunnel vision and 46.9 percent finish clip on layups. Unless another prospect makes an eye-opening charge, though, it still feels unlikely the team picking third overthinks an 18-year-old scorer with Bailey's positional size, self-creation and outrageous shotmaking skill.

4. Jeremiah Fears
5. Kasparas Jakucionis
6. VJ Edgecombe
7. Egor Demin
8. Khaman Maluach
9. Asa Newell
10. Tre Johnson
11. Kon Knueppel
12. Collin Murray-Boyles
13. Ben Saraf
14. Nolan Traore

36. Toronto Raptors (via Blazers): Dink Pate

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Team: Mexico City Capitanes

Position: PG/SG

Size: 6'8", 210 lbs

Age: 18

Nationality: USA

Pro Comparison: AJ Johnson

With draft and pro personnel scouts in attendance at the G League Showcase, Dink Pate opened with his best performance of the past two years. He carried the Capitanes to a win over the Rip City Remix with 26 points, including 15 in the fourth quarter, and six made threes.

He followed with a 1-of-7 dud, but the highs for an 18-year-old still outweigh the lows in this case. The big shooting day helped raise Dink's three-point mark to 40.4 percent on the year. And while there are still questions about his ability to finish plays in traffic or make point-guard quality decisions, there is going to be interest in a 6'8" ball-handler who can create and is showing signs of improving shotmaking.


Dink would fit perfectly on this team. In name
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#290 » by Psubs » Wed Jan 1, 2025 9:26 pm

bluerap23 wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Bruin wrote:I’ve seen people compare VJ to Ant Edwards but I see more Oladipo


Amen Thompson without a broken shot.

Well at least Amen has gone from 13.8% to 26.2%. Maybe he keeps working, then in his prime can get up to 30-32% then he'd be as good as MJ and Kobe from long-distance. :D



Bruin wrote:I’ve seen people compare VJ to Ant Edwards but I see more Oladipo


Russell Westbrook


He’s nice but probably the worst fit on this team in the top 10.


Right now. I would guess that by the draft, won't have Boucher, Davion. Then I would trade Ochai and Olynyk for a SF/PF that's bigger than Mogbo.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#291 » by Syd-TK3 » Wed Jan 1, 2025 9:55 pm

mademan wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:I'm not taking Demin over Ace


Ya im off the Demin train, but you still couldnt get me to like Ace. Red flags aplenty with him

Well I'm all about potential and if he's the pick by someone like Masai I'm confident in him being a good player
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#292 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Jan 1, 2025 9:57 pm

ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:For me we are good if we land top 4. After that I’d be depressed ngl. My 4 in order is Harper, Flagg, Edgecomb, and Tre. (Ace is 5)

Those are the only game changers in my eyes

Praying for 1st or 2nd tho.


There are probably a few other players with a chance at reaching all-star level. The four you mentioned all have flaws that could potentially limit their upside

I would only stretch it out to Fears. The rest idk


You would be disappointed if we draft Ace at #5 or #6?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#293 » by Indeed » Wed Jan 1, 2025 10:08 pm

bluerap23 wrote:
DG88 wrote:Wasserman updated mock draft for 2025
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10148564-2025-nba-mock-draft-pro-comparisons-and-full-2-round-predictions

1. Cooper Flagg
2. Dylan Harper
3. Toronto Raptors: Ace Bailey

Toronto Raptors record: 7-25

Team: Rutgers

Position: SF

Size: 6'10", 200 lbs

Age: 18

Nationality: USA

Pro Comparisons: Brandon Miller, Michael Porter Jr.

Ace Bailey looked like the ultimate zone killer against Columbia on Monday with his ability to catch, rise and fire from inside the defense and behind the arc.

It's a difficult skill to defend from a 6'10" wing, and one that will continue to create advantages for him at the next level.

Shooting 45.1 percent off the dribble, Bailey also has that special knack for separating into jumpers and hitting contested ones from any spot.

There will be scouts who question his shot selection, tunnel vision and 46.9 percent finish clip on layups. Unless another prospect makes an eye-opening charge, though, it still feels unlikely the team picking third overthinks an 18-year-old scorer with Bailey's positional size, self-creation and outrageous shotmaking skill.

4. Jeremiah Fears
5. Kasparas Jakucionis
6. VJ Edgecombe
7. Egor Demin
8. Khaman Maluach
9. Asa Newell
10. Tre Johnson
11. Kon Knueppel
12. Collin Murray-Boyles
13. Ben Saraf
14. Nolan Traore

36. Toronto Raptors (via Blazers): Dink Pate

Scott Audette /NBAE via Getty Images
Team: Mexico City Capitanes

Position: PG/SG

Size: 6'8", 210 lbs

Age: 18

Nationality: USA

Pro Comparison: AJ Johnson

With draft and pro personnel scouts in attendance at the G League Showcase, Dink Pate opened with his best performance of the past two years. He carried the Capitanes to a win over the Rip City Remix with 26 points, including 15 in the fourth quarter, and six made threes.

He followed with a 1-of-7 dud, but the highs for an 18-year-old still outweigh the lows in this case. The big shooting day helped raise Dink's three-point mark to 40.4 percent on the year. And while there are still questions about his ability to finish plays in traffic or make point-guard quality decisions, there is going to be interest in a 6'8" ball-handler who can create and is showing signs of improving shotmaking.


Dink would fit perfectly on this team. In name


Unsure Dink is a good fit with his decision making. Would prefer a defensive specialist at SF with efficent spot up shooting in our case for a 2nd round pick, or taking a C

I also have Fears ahead of Ace for 3rd overall, and Fears will fit better for our need as a PoA defender with rim pressure.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#294 » by Ell Curry » Thu Jan 2, 2025 12:00 am

bluerap23 wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Bruin wrote:I’ve seen people compare VJ to Ant Edwards but I see more Oladipo


Amen Thompson without a broken shot.

Well at least Amen has gone from 13.8% to 26.2%. Maybe he keeps working, then in his prime can get up to 30-32% then he'd be as good as MJ and Kobe from long-distance. :D



Bruin wrote:I’ve seen people compare VJ to Ant Edwards but I see more Oladipo


Russell Westbrook


He’s nice but probably the worst fit on this team in the top 10.


The fit looks bad right now, but if you assume Quickley, Dick, Walter and Agbaji can give us average level NBA 3pt shooting, it's not so bad. We get some defensive playmaking on the wing which we are really, really short on. We're not going anywhere with this little athleticism from spots 1-3 on the court, and Quickley won't seriously address that, but he will give us some more 3pt shooting.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#295 » by DreamTeam09 » Thu Jan 2, 2025 1:46 am

DG88 wrote:Wasserman updated mock draft for 2025
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10148564-2025-nba-mock-draft-pro-comparisons-and-full-2-round-predictions

1. Cooper Flagg
2. Dylan Harper
3. Toronto Raptors: Ace Bailey

Toronto Raptors record: 7-25

Team: Rutgers

Position: SF

Size: 6'10", 200 lbs

Age: 18

Nationality: USA

Pro Comparisons: Brandon Miller, Michael Porter Jr.

Ace Bailey looked like the ultimate zone killer against Columbia on Monday with his ability to catch, rise and fire from inside the defense and behind the arc.

It's a difficult skill to defend from a 6'10" wing, and one that will continue to create advantages for him at the next level.

Shooting 45.1 percent off the dribble, Bailey also has that special knack for separating into jumpers and hitting contested ones from any spot.

There will be scouts who question his shot selection, tunnel vision and 46.9 percent finish clip on layups. Unless another prospect makes an eye-opening charge, though, it still feels unlikely the team picking third overthinks an 18-year-old scorer with Bailey's positional size, self-creation and outrageous shotmaking skill.

4. Jeremiah Fears
5. Kasparas Jakucionis
6. VJ Edgecombe
7. Egor Demin
8. Khaman Maluach
9. Asa Newell
10. Tre Johnson
11. Kon Knueppel
12. Collin Murray-Boyles
13. Ben Saraf
14. Nolan Traore

36. Toronto Raptors (via Blazers): Dink Pate

Scott Audette /NBAE via Getty Images
Team: Mexico City Capitanes

Position: PG/SG

Size: 6'8", 210 lbs

Age: 18

Nationality: USA

Pro Comparison: AJ Johnson

With draft and pro personnel scouts in attendance at the G League Showcase, Dink Pate opened with his best performance of the past two years. He carried the Capitanes to a win over the Rip City Remix with 26 points, including 15 in the fourth quarter, and six made threes.

He followed with a 1-of-7 dud, but the highs for an 18-year-old still outweigh the lows in this case. The big shooting day helped raise Dink's three-point mark to 40.4 percent on the year. And while there are still questions about his ability to finish plays in traffic or make point-guard quality decisions, there is going to be interest in a 6'8" ball-handler who can create and is showing signs of improving shotmaking.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#296 » by PhilBlackson » Thu Jan 2, 2025 2:07 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:
DG88 wrote:Wasserman updated mock draft for 2025
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10148564-2025-nba-mock-draft-pro-comparisons-and-full-2-round-predictions

1. Cooper Flagg
2. Dylan Harper
3. Toronto Raptors: Ace Bailey

Toronto Raptors record: 7-25

Team: Rutgers

Position: SF

Size: 6'10", 200 lbs

Age: 18

Nationality: USA

Pro Comparisons: Brandon Miller, Michael Porter Jr.

Ace Bailey looked like the ultimate zone killer against Columbia on Monday with his ability to catch, rise and fire from inside the defense and behind the arc.

It's a difficult skill to defend from a 6'10" wing, and one that will continue to create advantages for him at the next level.

Shooting 45.1 percent off the dribble, Bailey also has that special knack for separating into jumpers and hitting contested ones from any spot.

There will be scouts who question his shot selection, tunnel vision and 46.9 percent finish clip on layups. Unless another prospect makes an eye-opening charge, though, it still feels unlikely the team picking third overthinks an 18-year-old scorer with Bailey's positional size, self-creation and outrageous shotmaking skill.

4. Jeremiah Fears
5. Kasparas Jakucionis
6. VJ Edgecombe
7. Egor Demin
8. Khaman Maluach
9. Asa Newell
10. Tre Johnson
11. Kon Knueppel
12. Collin Murray-Boyles
13. Ben Saraf
14. Nolan Traore

36. Toronto Raptors (via Blazers): Dink Pate

Scott Audette /NBAE via Getty Images
Team: Mexico City Capitanes

Position: PG/SG

Size: 6'8", 210 lbs

Age: 18

Nationality: USA

Pro Comparison: AJ Johnson

With draft and pro personnel scouts in attendance at the G League Showcase, Dink Pate opened with his best performance of the past two years. He carried the Capitanes to a win over the Rip City Remix with 26 points, including 15 in the fourth quarter, and six made threes.

He followed with a 1-of-7 dud, but the highs for an 18-year-old still outweigh the lows in this case. The big shooting day helped raise Dink's three-point mark to 40.4 percent on the year. And while there are still questions about his ability to finish plays in traffic or make point-guard quality decisions, there is going to be interest in a 6'8" ball-handler who can create and is showing signs of improving shotmaking.

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Tomislav is still my runaway favorite with the SRP to the point that if we can get some 2nds for Bruce and/or Kelly, I'd combine them to trade into the late 1st to ensure we get him BUT yeah this would have one of the higher upsides.

I also favour a few prospects over Ace buuuut when you look at how much better our developmental staff has made countless players now it's enticing AF to think what if they make the same level of improvements with much greater prospects like Bailey & Pate?! Presumably each guy will keep getting at least incrementally better year over year and if that's the case suddenly our franchise is stacked with 6'9 wings and really most of our positions with C being the only real exception. But if we get some 2nds from a Bruce or Kelly trade maybe we can still grab another back up C in the 2nd or just find one with one of 1sts next year.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#297 » by RoteSchroder » Thu Jan 2, 2025 2:21 am

ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:
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ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:For me we are good if we land top 4. After that I’d be depressed ngl. My 4 in order is Harper, Flagg, Edgecomb, and Tre. (Ace is 5)

Those are the only game changers in my eyes

Praying for 1st or 2nd tho.


There are probably a few other players with a chance at reaching all-star level. The four you mentioned all have flaws that could potentially limit their upside

I would only stretch it out to Fears. The rest idk


To me, there are like 20 players with star potential in this draft. Some may have a snowball’s chance or a longer way to go, but compared to last year, I would have guessed maybe only 1-3 players had perennial all-star potential..and, imo, those players are further away than prospects mocked to go in the late 1st round in 2025.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#298 » by 720 » Thu Jan 2, 2025 3:37 am

Scottie would absolutely ball next to Dylan Harper
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#299 » by Raptorfan2012 » Thu Jan 2, 2025 5:13 am

Problem with this years draft is there are too many guards. I will take Dylan but guys like Tre, VJ, Fears etc while talented will cause a big overlap. In addition, this keague is getting bigger so we need big wings and mobile bigs more than guards. I think we look at guys like Khaman, Queen, Asa is we fall out the top 5.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#300 » by ImaBeatDatAzz » Thu Jan 2, 2025 5:13 am

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ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:
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There are probably a few other players with a chance at reaching all-star level. The four you mentioned all have flaws that could potentially limit their upside

I would only stretch it out to Fears. The rest idk


You would be disappointed if we draft Ace at #5 or #6?

I mean he would be BPM so I wouldn’t be disappointed in the pick, more so disappointed if we drop down where we basically have to take him
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