PG: Knicks vs. Jazz: JO$$$$H HART TRIP DUB

[Context]

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That was SICK! Cap! I really enjoyed that dunk...

[Guano]

Was about to start the recording of the game and did not know MSG was gonna be taken off their lineup effective today. So annoyed. I can't keep up with anything lately bc I have 3 kids under 3.

Glad they won obviously, we're on fire granted the opponents have not been the best. Gotta beat the teams you're supposed to beat tho. The chemistry is great. Keep it up.

Now I gotta figure out a way to get MSG.....

OMG, somebody get this man a cookie and some Knicks tickets.

Said a lil prayer for that man when I read that.

[TheGreenArrow]

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Danny ainge is begging us Folksssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[robillionaire]

If Precious didn’t have that hamstring injury we probably win a couple extra games . Anybody remember Jericho sims lol

.706 win percentage. No plan, fire the coach , we’re the bobcats

Love how you keep stepping on needles neck even though he is mia.

Thanks, I plan to mention it often until anybody who hates on this above .700 58 win pace team is shame walked through the streets of realgm

[Capn'O]

I was so wrong about KAT prior to the trade. I am a moron

And I too am a moron

I was with you guys last year this time I'm just glad I saw him toward the end of last season and the play-offs-
only difference is I realized I was a moron earlier This way I didnt have to suffer when the trade was made

I was optimistic about the trade and I was still way off on Towns.

[Chanel Bomber]

The moment The Timberwolves acquired Gobert was when they showed they didn't believe in KAT to hit this level of impact at the 5. Must feel good for KAT to show them they chose wrong.

I don't think they necessarily chose wrong when they traded for Gobert. He is a generational defender and a high-impact player, and the Wolves reached the Conference Finals for the first time in 20 years with him as their center.

I agree that KAT's best position is the 5. All the metrics support it. And I think KAT could absolutely be the starting center on a Finals team. But trading for Gobert led to their most successful season in two decades - even with playing KAT out of position (a testament to his versatility and team-first mentality).

The real mistake was trading away KAT, and prioritizing keeping McDaniels and Reid (and Gobert) over him. That was a massive blunder.

Walker Kessler, Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt, Beverly
Four firsts
play towns out of position and can’t afford to pay him
All this for a 10 and 10 rim runner making 200+M
The first domino led to the next
I hope that WCF appearance was worth it cause they ain’t going back for the next decade

I agree but that's because they lost KAT, not because they have Gobert. They were dominant last year with both players starting for them, so it clearly wasn't an either/or situation.

All the players you mentioned (who they traded for Gobert) are fringe rotation players at best on a contender. Gobert meanwhile is a multi-time DPOY who has played on winning teams for the vast majority of his career.

KAT and Gobert had success together. Minnesota should have kept both. They didn't prioritize just Gobert over KAT, but also Naz Reid and McDaniels. It was foolish.

[Parraknick]

Knicks really unlocked all aspects of Towns’ game. His passing has been underrated, he’s rebounding like a demon, he’s back to scoring with MVP level efficiency…good stuff.

Minnesota really underused this guy

The moment The Timberwolves acquired Gobert was when they showed they didn't believe in KAT to hit this level of impact at the 5. Must feel good for KAT to show them they chose wrong.

Kat had plenty of stretches where he played this well in Minny. He also has plenty of stretches where he doesn't play so well. He isn't all of the sudden a different player. Like most players in the NBA, he has hot stretches and cold ones.

I will be the first to admit that I only saw a smattering of his games before New York, maybe 7 or 8 per season. But it looks like his approach and his play style has changed quite a bit. Do you disagree?

[Muskies97]

Knicks really unlocked all aspects of Towns’ game. His passing has been underrated, he’s rebounding like a demon, he’s back to scoring with MVP level efficiency…good stuff.

Minnesota really underused this guy

The moment The Timberwolves acquired Gobert was when they showed they didn't believe in KAT to hit this level of impact at the 5. Must feel good for KAT to show them they chose wrong.

I don't think they necessarily chose wrong when they traded for Gobert. He is a generational defender and a high-impact player, and the Wolves reached the Conference Finals for the first time in 20 years with him as their center.

I agree that KAT's best position is the 5. All the metrics support it. And I think KAT could absolutely be the starting center on a Finals team. But trading for Gobert led to their most successful season in two decades - even with playing KAT out of position (a testament to his versatility and team-first mentality).

The real mistake was trading away KAT, and prioritizing keeping McDaniels and Reid (and Gobert) over him. That was a massive blunder.

Yeah McDaniels losing his 3pt shot definitely hurts their offense far more than anyone else right now. Tbh I personally believed that the ceiling of KAT and ANT in a true 5 out offense was higher than the current defense-first Timberwolves team, even if the Gobert crew brought them more short term playoff success. Basically the vision of what Rosas had in 2019 but with higher quality talent around them the duo. Ant with Knicks level spacing would average 30PPG right now lol.

[cgmw]

Wild enough that Hart has a (massive) triple double while KAT goes for 30/20. Mind blowing that it’s two games in a row.

[Guano]

If Precious didn’t have that hamstring injury we probably win a couple extra games . Anybody remember Jericho sims lol

.706 win percentage. No plan, fire the coach , we’re the bobcats

Love how you keep stepping on needles neck even though he is mia.

Thanks, I plan to mention it often until anybody who hates on this above .700 58 win pace team is shame walked through the streets of realgm

You've been nothing but consistent in hating kids and relentless in reminding us team was wrong. And I'm here for it. Talk your sht

[robillionaire]

And I too am a moron

I was with you guys last year this time I'm just glad I saw him toward the end of last season and the play-offs-
only difference is I realized I was a moron earlier This way I didnt have to suffer when the trade was made

I was optimistic about the trade and I was still way off on Towns.

I still love all of you

[Chanel Bomber]

The moment The Timberwolves acquired Gobert was when they showed they didn't believe in KAT to hit this level of impact at the 5. Must feel good for KAT to show them they chose wrong.

I don't think they necessarily chose wrong when they traded for Gobert. He is a generational defender and a high-impact player, and the Wolves reached the Conference Finals for the first time in 20 years with him as their center.

I agree that KAT's best position is the 5. All the metrics support it. And I think KAT could absolutely be the starting center on a Finals team. But trading for Gobert led to their most successful season in two decades - even with playing KAT out of position (a testament to his versatility and team-first mentality).

The real mistake was trading away KAT, and prioritizing keeping McDaniels and Reid (and Gobert) over him. That was a massive blunder.

Yeah McDaniels losing his 3pt shot definitely hurts their offense far more than anyone else right now. Tbh I personally believed that the ceiling of KAT and ANT in a true 5 out offense was higher than the current defense-first Timberwolves team, even if the Gobert crew brought them more short term playoff success. Basically the vision of what Rosas had in 2019 but with higher quality talent around them the duo. Ant with Knicks level spacing would average 30PPG right now lol.

I agree, which is why I said when the trade went down that Minnesota had just closed their championship window.

Playing KAT at the 4 next to Gobert was suboptimal for KAT individually but the sum of the two players was regardless a huge gain for the team. I don't think their WCF was an aberration by any means - players had to sacrifice, but the whole was strong.

OG is an elite defender. Perhaps not Gobert-level in terms of impact, but he fits the archetype of a 4 that enables you to play KAT at the 5, by similarly providing a security blanket defensively. I'm a big proponent of KAT at the 5, hopefully it helps the Knicks reach the ECF and maybe then the Finals.

[ezmoney707]

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I think it's the way Mazzula approaches the game offensively. Boston instill so much fear with their 3s that the fear itself overpowers even the math. Which is why his team keeps shooting 3s even when they're missing them. He wants defenses to fear the deluge so they keep overstretching. Maybe I'm talking out of my azz, but it's what I see on the rare occasion I watch the Celtics play (also based on his interviews).

Yeah it’s almost a NFL like approach with the run game. Even if the defense is doing well to stop the run you keep running so they respect the run game so it opens up the field for the pass.

Just knowing the Celtics are going to get up 30-40 threes a night is enough to shift your defense.

In the case of KAT you can tell that is exactly why this FO wanted him for the very reasons Hardy explained. They had Nerlens Noel for Christ sake working on his 3pt game one off season to be a stretch big at one point early in the rebuild, so getting a true 3 level big seems like it was in the plans from the start.

[Galvationknicks]

Total minutes each Eastern Conference team's starting 5 has spent on the floor together this season:

1. Knicks: 561 minutes
2. Hawks: 271 minutes
3. Pistons: 249 minutes
4. Pacers: 241 minutes
5. Celtics: 198 minutes
6. Raptors: 167 minutes
7. Bucks: 159 minutes
8. Bulls: 154 minutes
9. Magic: 152 minutes
10. Cavs: 148 minutes

[nykfan42]

Was about to start the recording of the game and did not know MSG was gonna be taken off their lineup effective today. So annoyed. I can't keep up with anything lately bc I have 3 kids under 3.

Glad they won obviously, we're on fire granted the opponents have not been the best. Gotta beat the teams you're supposed to beat tho. The chemistry is great. Keep it up.

Now I gotta figure out a way to get MSG.....

internet? gotham app?

I've heard the gotham app is awful.

[CyKnickal]

If Kat gets legit nba whistle he would be mvp. They can’t let that happen.

I have watched many games against the Sixers and have thought, if KAT got Embiid's whistle... Dude gets scrwed out of so many calls, bigs do in general and it's trash because he is battling just as hard as some 6'2 guy driving to the paint who you can't touch. I don't know what Embiid did to get that guard whistle as a center but its such a massive advantage.

This is all well and good. I agree that KAT doesn't get the whistles he should and bla-de-bla-de-bla.

But he's not a MVP candidate (@FN11).

He's playing in the era of someone who plays the same position and is in very real consideration to be the best player of any position to ever play the game. It's boring for the rest. How can you be a mid-90s player and expect to be a real MVP candidate when MJ exists? You can't. Same problem for the rest now. Jokic exists. End of story.

Our dude kicked his ass just last year, and you're putting him on MJ's tier?

[Guano]

I was so wrong about KAT prior to the trade. I am a moron

And I too am a moron

[nykfan42]

Was about to start the recording of the game and did not know MSG was gonna be taken off their lineup effective today. So annoyed. I can't keep up with anything lately bc I have 3 kids under 3.

Glad they won obviously, we're on fire granted the opponents have not been the best. Gotta beat the teams you're supposed to beat tho. The chemistry is great. Keep it up.

Now I gotta figure out a way to get MSG.....

OMG, somebody get this man a cookie and some Knicks tickets.

Said a lil prayer for that man when I read that.

Hahahaha you have no idea. Chaos... Tantrums... Knicks games at night are my escape.

[robillionaire]

I don't think they necessarily chose wrong when they traded for Gobert. He is a generational defender and a high-impact player, and the Wolves reached the Conference Finals for the first time in 20 years with him as their center.

I agree that KAT's best position is the 5. All the metrics support it. And I think KAT could absolutely be the starting center on a Finals team. But trading for Gobert led to their most successful season in two decades - even with playing KAT out of position (a testament to his versatility and team-first mentality).

The real mistake was trading away KAT, and prioritizing keeping McDaniels and Reid (and Gobert) over him. That was a massive blunder.

Walker Kessler, Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt, Beverly
Four firsts
play towns out of position and can’t afford to pay him
All this for a 10 and 10 rim runner making 200+M
The first domino led to the next
I hope that WCF appearance was worth it cause they ain’t going back for the next decade

I agree but that's because they lost KAT, not because they have Gobert. They were dominant last year with both players starting for them, so it clearly wasn't an either/or situation.

All the players you mentioned (who they traded for Gobert) are fringe rotation players at best on a contender. Gobert meanwhile is a multi-time DPOY who has played on winning teams for the vast majority of his career.

KAT and Gobert had success together. Minnesota should have kept both. They didn't prioritize just Gobert over KAT, but also Naz Reid and McDaniels. It was foolish.

I think if we for a second forget the players and the teams involved and just strip my opinion down to bare bones it’s that I straight up don’t think a team with a rim runner at the 5 can win a championship in the year 2025 and they’ll eventually run into the playoff exposure regardless of their regular season success whereas I am now a stretch big 5 out maximalist and think you need to have that in order to win a championship. Having that = window open. Starting rim
Runner = window closed. That’s how I see the league. Maybe I’m wrong.

I thought differently in 2011. I liked Tyson Chandler a lot. But the 10 and 10 rim protector isn’t the archetype of player who I’m giving up the farm for in 2025. Especially if it might self sabotage the situation with a historic stretch big.

They had everything they needed already. They should have used that package for an elite PG.

Anyway it’s not my job to fix that dumpster fire organization I’m just glad we are now the ones locked and loaded with the mold of player that I think is necessary for a team serious about winning

[Parraknick]

Total minutes each Eastern Conference team's starting 5 has spent on the floor together this season:

1. Knicks: 561 minutes
2. Hawks: 271 minutes
3. Pistons: 249 minutes
4. Pacers: 241 minutes
5. Celtics: 198 minutes
6. Raptors: 167 minutes
7. Bucks: 159 minutes
8. Bulls: 154 minutes
9. Magic: 152 minutes
10. Cavs: 148 minutes

That’s pretty amazing. The good part of that stat is we are winning and we haven’t had many injuries to cut into that number