Hornets/Blazers/Bulls

[Astaluego]

HORNETS
In:P Williams/Lonzo/Thybulle
Out:Bridges/G Williams/Micic

change, thinking about the future... they get a couple of good wing defenders, in the right timeline to be part of the core in the long term... and they bring Lonzo to be close to Lamelo, they also fit the role perfectly

Lonzo/Tre
Lamelo/Green
Miller/Thybulle
P.Williams/Salaun
M.Williams/Richards

BULLS
In:Bridges/R.Williams
Out:Lonzo/P.Williams/Blazers FRP

no market for its veterans, talent improvement

Vuc/R.Williams
Bridges/J.Smith
Lavine/Buzelis
White/THT
Giddey/Ayo

BLAZERS
In:Micic/G Williams/Blazers FRP
Out:R.Williams/Thybulle

they recover their selection

[luciano-davidwesley]

I feel like the Hornets probably owe Portland some value here

[jayjaysee]

Chicago just lost to the Wizards by a lot. At some point they really need to just bottom out and reset this group..

I think this feels like a move Chicago would do though. The Timelord part is a bit of a weird target though. Unless you think they will be trading Vuc, you don’t need both Jalen and Timelord on the bench.

And Charlotte would like RW considering their center is a health risk as well. Probably look to move something to have Charlotte be the team ending up with three centers.

[Tim Lehrbach]

I mean, if nobody else offers for Williams (which I expect they won't), I guess yes for Portland. If future draft flexibility (by having control of all first round picks) is the best the Blazers can get for Williams, might as well accept.

[Myth]

I mean, if nobody else offers for Williams (which I expect they won't), I guess yes for Portland. If future draft flexibility (by having control of all first round picks) is the best the Blazers can get for Williams, might as well accept.

The one hesitancy I have is the extra year of Grant at $14M. What we gain in pick flexibility (which I still think that pick doesn't convey as a first and I don't expect us to trade away a load of 1sts in the next few years), we lose in cap space flexibility, which with the new CBA may be very useful for acquiring even more assets. It is also worth noting the the extra year of Grant will be the 1st year of Sharpe being extended. Essentially, this trade only makes sense if Portland truly commits to not replacing the salaries of Simons or Ayton with other players or extensions, or gets Grant off the books without replacing his long term salary with other long term salary.

[Tim Lehrbach]

Oh, good call, Myth. This is an expensive way to purchase basically nothing of value.

[ChettheJet]

I like Miles Bridges for the Bulls. Position wise he and Patrick Williams are much the same, not quite big enough to be a 4, not as fast as most 3's. What I'd really like is the two of them together good switching on defense and both stretching the floor.

What's Bulls bad about this trade is R Williams III is even more injury prone that P Williams,, Lonzo Ball is having a slow return on his shooting but passing and on defense he looks like he did 3 years ago and he was damn good. If I'm the Bulls I'm hanging onto him hoping he's willing to stay at a reasonable price and no other team has crazy money to throw at him.

Also, the Bulls move that PORT 1st as if Patrick and Lonzo aren't going to help the Hornets with TWO starters. Please help CHA with two starters boo hoo and they need a pick to accept them. Bull

[JMAC3]

I think Charlotte would pretty easily do this deal. They were rumored to be fans of Patrick Williams in past, obviously the Lonzo thing makes sense. Thybulle seems like a negative value here since he is injuried and likely not worth the 11 million he is owed next year on the open market. Even still Charlotte could use a defender so maybe they are okay taking the chance there.

If we needed to toss in a few rando 2nds we could look at doing that as well.

[JMAC3]

I mean, if nobody else offers for Williams (which I expect they won't), I guess yes for Portland. If future draft flexibility (by having control of all first round picks) is the best the Blazers can get for Williams, might as well accept.

The one hesitancy I have is the extra year of Grant at $14M. What we gain in pick flexibility (which I still think that pick doesn't convey as a first and I don't expect us to trade away a load of 1sts in the next few years), we lose in cap space flexibility, which with the new CBA may be very useful for acquiring even more assets. It is also worth noting the the extra year of Grant will be the 1st year of Sharpe being extended. Essentially, this trade only makes sense if Portland truly commits to not replacing the salaries of Simons or Ayton with other players or extensions, or gets Grant off the books without replacing his long term salary with other long term salary.

Grant Williams is probably pretty easy to move at his number in the future though, As an expiring contract I can't see him being worth at least a couple of 2nds.

[Myth]

I mean, if nobody else offers for Williams (which I expect they won't), I guess yes for Portland. If future draft flexibility (by having control of all first round picks) is the best the Blazers can get for Williams, might as well accept.

The one hesitancy I have is the extra year of Grant at $14M. What we gain in pick flexibility (which I still think that pick doesn't convey as a first and I don't expect us to trade away a load of 1sts in the next few years), we lose in cap space flexibility, which with the new CBA may be very useful for acquiring even more assets. It is also worth noting the the extra year of Grant will be the 1st year of Sharpe being extended. Essentially, this trade only makes sense if Portland truly commits to not replacing the salaries of Simons or Ayton with other players or extensions, or gets Grant off the books without replacing his long term salary with other long term salary.

Grant Williams is probably pretty easy to move at his number in the future though, As an expiring contract I can't see him being worth at least a couple of 2nds.

But those couple seconds likely still come with matching salary that year, which still blocks up the cap and makes them some expensive 2nds.

[HornetJail]

very firm no on any trade with Patrick Williams to Charlotte unless we're being paid handsomely. I don't want to be glued to that contract for 5 years.

PWill was an annual "Hornets are interested" headline under Kupchak but he's not calling any more shots anymore for good reason.