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2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#301 » by RoteSchroder » Thu Jan 2, 2025 6:24 am

Raptorfan2012 wrote:Problem with this years draft is there are too many guards. I will take Dylan but guys like Tre, VJ, Fears etc while talented will cause a big overlap. In addition, this keague is getting bigger so we need big wings and mobile bigs more than guards. I think we look at guys like Khaman, Queen, Asa is we fall out the top 5.


Team is kind of lacking in terms of an on-ball guard though. Our two weakest positions might be PG and C. IQ goes down and we’re starting Ja’Kobe at PG with Scottie and RJ racking up 4 TO’s per game. Poeltl goes down and we’re left with zero competent big men.

We should welcome any guard with star potential if they’re the BPA and figure things out later.

Theoretically, Edgecombe is a good fit alongside RJ/IQ if his offense develops, as he can be a PoA defender, mostly guarding 1-2, maybe some 3.

We don’t have anyone who’s a bucket, which may be Tre’s archetype.

We don’t have an on-ball guy with good handles who can weave in and out of the defense (Fears), but he overlaps a bit more with IQ.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#302 » by PoundTown » Thu Jan 2, 2025 7:14 am

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Raptorfan2012 wrote:Problem with this years draft is there are too many guards. I will take Dylan but guys like Tre, VJ, Fears etc while talented will cause a big overlap. In addition, this keague is getting bigger so we need big wings and mobile bigs more than guards. I think we look at guys like Khaman, Queen, Asa is we fall out the top 5.


Team is kind of lacking in terms of an on-ball guard though. Our two weakest positions might be PG and C. IQ goes down and we’re starting Ja’Kobe at PG with Scottie and RJ racking up 4 TO’s per game. Poeltl goes down and we’re left with zero competent big men.

We should welcome any guard with star potential if they’re the BPA and figure things out later.

Theoretically, Edgecombe is a good fit alongside RJ/IQ if his offense develops, as he can be a PoA defender, mostly guarding 1-2, maybe some 3.

We don’t have anyone who’s a bucket, which may be Tre’s archetype.

We don’t have an on-ball guy with good handles who can weave in and out of the defense (Fears), but he overlaps a bit more with IQ.


Yeah, I like VJ a lot. Gives us a ton of guards/ wings but I think he has really high potential, like prime oladipo before the injuries potential. Might take him as high as 3.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#303 » by woid » Thu Jan 2, 2025 7:33 am

Just out of curiosity, how many players in this draft would you take over last year's top 3?

Zaccharie Risacher
Alex Sarr
Reed Sheppard

Obviously way too early to tell for the rookies, but you kind of get the feel on some players after the first 20 or so nba game minutes.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#304 » by S.W.A.N » Thu Jan 2, 2025 8:08 am

woid wrote:Just out of curiosity, how many players in this draft would you take over last year's top 3?

Zaccharie Risacher
Alex Sarr
Reed Sheppard

Obviously way too early to tell for the rookies, but you kind of get the feel on some players after the first 20 or so nba game minutes.


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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#305 » by Thaddy » Thu Jan 2, 2025 9:55 am

RoteSchroder wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:Problem with this years draft is there are too many guards. I will take Dylan but guys like Tre, VJ, Fears etc while talented will cause a big overlap. In addition, this keague is getting bigger so we need big wings and mobile bigs more than guards. I think we look at guys like Khaman, Queen, Asa is we fall out the top 5.


Team is kind of lacking in terms of an on-ball guard though. Our two weakest positions might be PG and C. IQ goes down and we’re starting Ja’Kobe at PG with Scottie and RJ racking up 4 TO’s per game. Poeltl goes down and we’re left with zero competent big men.

We should welcome any guard with star potential if they’re the BPA and figure things out later.

Theoretically, Edgecombe is a good fit alongside RJ/IQ if his offense develops, as he can be a PoA defender, mostly guarding 1-2, maybe some 3.

We don’t have anyone who’s a bucket, which may be Tre’s archetype.

We don’t have an on-ball guy with good handles who can weave in and out of the defense (Fears), but he overlaps a bit more with IQ.

I have McNeeley over Edgecombe. He's more projectable as a scorer because he can shoot the basketball and attack closeouts. He's not just a shooter. The comparison of being a bigger Kispert should draw our attention, it means he might be better on defense.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#306 » by Appostis » Thu Jan 2, 2025 10:15 am

How big of a downgrade would the team see if we drop to the 5-10 range?

If they are healthy..this team is better then at least 5 or 6 teams..and the pillow of 7 games between the Raptors vs say the Bulls is not nearly as massive as people would assume.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#307 » by Jstock12 » Thu Jan 2, 2025 11:35 am

woid wrote:Just out of curiosity, how many players in this draft would you take over last year's top 3?

Zaccharie Risacher
Alex Sarr
Reed Sheppard

Obviously way too early to tell for the rookies, but you kind of get the feel on some players after the first 20 or so nba game minutes.

If it's based on what we know now, then maybe only Sarr would still be in the conversation for that 3-8 pick range. Without the benefit of hindsight, I'd say all three would still be in the mix for that 3-8 range this year. Flagg/Harper top2.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#308 » by Appostis » Thu Jan 2, 2025 11:44 am

Would you trade Barnes for a lottery pick in this draft?

This is a honest question I've seen on Facebook...sweet Christ people are insane.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#309 » by Jstock12 » Thu Jan 2, 2025 1:11 pm

Appostis wrote:Would you trade Barnes for a lottery pick in this draft?

This is a honest question I've seen on Facebook...sweet Christ people are insane.

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Post#310 » by ArthurVandelay » Thu Jan 2, 2025 1:11 pm

Appostis wrote:Would you trade Barnes for a lottery pick in this draft?

This is a honest question I've seen on Facebook...sweet Christ people are insane.


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Post#311 » by ATLTimekeeper » Thu Jan 2, 2025 1:20 pm

Appostis wrote:Would you trade Barnes for a lottery pick in this draft?

This is a honest question I've seen on Facebook...sweet Christ people are insane.


You wouldn't trade him for 1st overall?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#312 » by Appostis » Thu Jan 2, 2025 1:58 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:
Appostis wrote:Would you trade Barnes for a lottery pick in this draft?

This is a honest question I've seen on Facebook...sweet Christ people are insane.


You wouldn't trade him for 1st overall?


Probably not.

Yes you have drafts with the likes of LeBron and Wemby.. but most drafts? No. This one included.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#313 » by Appostis » Thu Jan 2, 2025 1:59 pm

Jstock12 wrote:
Appostis wrote:Would you trade Barnes for a lottery pick in this draft?

This is a honest question I've seen on Facebook...sweet Christ people are insane.




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Post#314 » by Psubs » Thu Jan 2, 2025 2:18 pm

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Raptorfan2012 wrote:Problem with this years draft is there are too many guards. I will take Dylan but guys like Tre, VJ, Fears etc while talented will cause a big overlap. In addition, this keague is getting bigger so we need big wings and mobile bigs more than guards. I think we look at guys like Khaman, Queen, Asa is we fall out the top 5.


Team is kind of lacking in terms of an on-ball guard though. Our two weakest positions might be PG and C. IQ goes down and we’re starting Ja’Kobe at PG with Scottie and RJ racking up 4 TO’s per game. Poeltl goes down and we’re left with zero competent big men.

We should welcome any guard with star potential if they’re the BPA and figure things out later.

Theoretically, Edgecombe is a good fit alongside RJ/IQ if his offense develops, as he can be a PoA defender, mostly guarding 1-2, maybe some 3.

We don’t have anyone who’s a bucket, which may be Tre’s archetype.

We don’t have an on-ball guy with good handles who can weave in and out of the defense (Fears), but he overlaps a bit more with IQ.


Is Fears so much better than Jakobe? If they get Edgecombe, I think RJ Barrett would be traded.

I think CMB would be drafted as a SF/PF and backup Scottie until he can prove to start at SF.

Demin would likely be the player that falls to closer to the #10 pick and he can be brought along slowly but has legit SF size.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#315 » by RoteSchroder » Thu Jan 2, 2025 2:43 pm

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Raptorfan2012 wrote:Problem with this years draft is there are too many guards. I will take Dylan but guys like Tre, VJ, Fears etc while talented will cause a big overlap. In addition, this keague is getting bigger so we need big wings and mobile bigs more than guards. I think we look at guys like Khaman, Queen, Asa is we fall out the top 5.


Team is kind of lacking in terms of an on-ball guard though. Our two weakest positions might be PG and C. IQ goes down and we’re starting Ja’Kobe at PG with Scottie and RJ racking up 4 TO’s per game. Poeltl goes down and we’re left with zero competent big men.

We should welcome any guard with star potential if they’re the BPA and figure things out later.

Theoretically, Edgecombe is a good fit alongside RJ/IQ if his offense develops, as he can be a PoA defender, mostly guarding 1-2, maybe some 3.

We don’t have anyone who’s a bucket, which may be Tre’s archetype.

We don’t have an on-ball guy with good handles who can weave in and out of the defense (Fears), but he overlaps a bit more with IQ.


Is Fears so much better than Jakobe? If they get Edgecombe, I think RJ Barrett would be traded.

I think CMB would be drafted as a SF/PF and backup Scottie until he can prove to start at SF.

Demin would likely be the player that falls to closer to the #10 pick and he can be brought along slowly but has legit SF size.


Realistically, Masai’s not trading IQ or RJ any time soon.

Fears is a PG, Ja’Kobe’s an SG. Fears has much better handles, is faster and has star potential. Ja’Kobe has role player potential.

I wouldn’t mind CMB. Really needs to start working on that jumper ASAP though.

Hard pass on Demin, nothing particularly stands out about him and he can’t handle physicality.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#316 » by manjusaka » Thu Jan 2, 2025 3:12 pm

With BBQ Peoltl health, I think we are probably end up in the 6-10 range instead of top5.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#317 » by PushDaRock » Thu Jan 2, 2025 3:26 pm

Psubs wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:Problem with this years draft is there are too many guards. I will take Dylan but guys like Tre, VJ, Fears etc while talented will cause a big overlap. In addition, this keague is getting bigger so we need big wings and mobile bigs more than guards. I think we look at guys like Khaman, Queen, Asa is we fall out the top 5.


Team is kind of lacking in terms of an on-ball guard though. Our two weakest positions might be PG and C. IQ goes down and we’re starting Ja’Kobe at PG with Scottie and RJ racking up 4 TO’s per game. Poeltl goes down and we’re left with zero competent big men.

We should welcome any guard with star potential if they’re the BPA and figure things out later.

Theoretically, Edgecombe is a good fit alongside RJ/IQ if his offense develops, as he can be a PoA defender, mostly guarding 1-2, maybe some 3.

We don’t have anyone who’s a bucket, which may be Tre’s archetype.

We don’t have an on-ball guy with good handles who can weave in and out of the defense (Fears), but he overlaps a bit more with IQ.


Is Fears so much better than Jakobe? If they get Edgecombe, I think RJ Barrett would be traded.

I think CMB would be drafted as a SF/PF and backup Scottie until he can prove to start at SF.

Demin would likely be the player that falls to closer to the #10 pick and he can be brought along slowly but has legit SF size.


Demin is having a bit of a rough stretch but I think he will still likely go top 5 maybe top 3. The passing and potential shot making ability off the dribble at his size will probably be too tempting for teams to pass up. The weaknesses in his game like his lack of strength are things you figure will improve over time.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#318 » by Yallbecrazy » Thu Jan 2, 2025 3:30 pm

RoteSchroder wrote:
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Team is kind of lacking in terms of an on-ball guard though. Our two weakest positions might be PG and C. IQ goes down and we’re starting Ja’Kobe at PG with Scottie and RJ racking up 4 TO’s per game. Poeltl goes down and we’re left with zero competent big men.

We should welcome any guard with star potential if they’re the BPA and figure things out later.

Theoretically, Edgecombe is a good fit alongside RJ/IQ if his offense develops, as he can be a PoA defender, mostly guarding 1-2, maybe some 3.

We don’t have anyone who’s a bucket, which may be Tre’s archetype.

We don’t have an on-ball guy with good handles who can weave in and out of the defense (Fears), but he overlaps a bit more with IQ.


Is Fears so much better than Jakobe? If they get Edgecombe, I think RJ Barrett would be traded.

I think CMB would be drafted as a SF/PF and backup Scottie until he can prove to start at SF.

Demin would likely be the player that falls to closer to the #10 pick and he can be brought along slowly but has legit SF size.


Realistically, Masai’s not trading IQ or RJ any time soon.

Fears is a PG, Ja’Kobe’s an SG. Fears has much better handles, is faster and has star potential. Ja’Kobe has role player potential.

I wouldn’t mind CMB. Really needs to start working on that jumper ASAP though.

Hard pass on Demin, nothing particularly stands out about him and he can’t handle physicality.


Problem is that CMB's so efficient at scoring in the post/paint that taking outside shots is just going to be worse off for the team even if he's average or decent at it. He's got a 67.2 TS%, would have to be well above 40% from 3 to make that a profitable trade off.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#319 » by Indeed » Thu Jan 2, 2025 3:33 pm

RoteSchroder wrote:
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Team is kind of lacking in terms of an on-ball guard though. Our two weakest positions might be PG and C. IQ goes down and we’re starting Ja’Kobe at PG with Scottie and RJ racking up 4 TO’s per game. Poeltl goes down and we’re left with zero competent big men.

We should welcome any guard with star potential if they’re the BPA and figure things out later.

Theoretically, Edgecombe is a good fit alongside RJ/IQ if his offense develops, as he can be a PoA defender, mostly guarding 1-2, maybe some 3.

We don’t have anyone who’s a bucket, which may be Tre’s archetype.

We don’t have an on-ball guy with good handles who can weave in and out of the defense (Fears), but he overlaps a bit more with IQ.


Is Fears so much better than Jakobe? If they get Edgecombe, I think RJ Barrett would be traded.

I think CMB would be drafted as a SF/PF and backup Scottie until he can prove to start at SF.

Demin would likely be the player that falls to closer to the #10 pick and he can be brought along slowly but has legit SF size.


Realistically, Masai’s not trading IQ or RJ any time soon.

Fears is a PG, Ja’Kobe’s an SG. Fears has much better handles, is faster and has star potential. Ja’Kobe has role player potential.

I wouldn’t mind CMB. Really needs to start working on that jumper ASAP though.

Hard pass on Demin, nothing particularly stands out about him and he can’t handle physicality.


I think we will trade one of Barrett or Quickley, and maybe acquire another pick or two in the next draft.
Fears with a short wingspan may only able to play PG as well.

As for CMB, he is not SF, so I prefer to draft a big SF, as we saw Agbaji was being abused by Hunter and Brown. Demin is unlikely a SF as well, so there won't be much of a solution. Otherwise, might draft a big C.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#320 » by Kreamy » Thu Jan 2, 2025 3:39 pm

NBADraft.net interview with Cooper Flagg. Like his attitude and perspective. Sounds like a basketball junkie as well.

https://www.nbadraft.net/cooper-flagg-interview/

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