Raptors Go After Booker

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Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#1 » by TorontoBarneys » Thu Jan 2, 2025 9:09 pm

This one is just for fun (aren't they all?).

Phoenix Trades:
Devin Booker

Toronto Trades:
RJ Barrett
Bruce Brown
2025 FRP (Toronto - unprotected)
2026 FRP (Toronto - unprotected)
2026 FRP (Indiana)

Toronto hedges their bets on a trio of Booker/Barnes/Quickley, hoping Devin can be the Batman that Barnes sorely needs. Phoenix gets ample draft considerations in a hypothetical scenario where they want to tear it down, and a large expiring that can be flipped in BB. Barrett also can be flipped for further draft consideration as he no longer has negative value like he did on the Knicks.

What do you think? Competitive offer?
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#2 » by Godaddycurse » Thu Jan 2, 2025 9:12 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:This one is just for fun (aren't they all?).

Phoenix Trades:
Devin Booker

Toronto Trades:
RJ Barrett
Bruce Brown
2025 FRP (Toronto - unprotected)
2026 FRP (Toronto - unprotected)
2026 FRP (Indiana)

Toronto hedges their bets on a trio of Booker/Barnes/Quickley, hoping Devin can be the Batman that Barnes sorely needs. Phoenix gets ample draft considerations in a hypothetical scenario where they want to tear it down, and a large expiring that can be flipped in BB. Barrett also can be flipped for further draft consideration as he no longer has negative value like he did on the Knicks.

What do you think? Competitive offer?


something like this would only be competitive if we get pick#1 after the lottery
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#3 » by youngcrev » Thu Jan 2, 2025 9:53 pm

Yeah, I don't think that's even close to the pick package necessary to get a player of Booker's caliber without any other substantial piece going back.

The idea that Barrett's value has somehow made some large shift since leaving New York also doesn't feel like reality to me.
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#4 » by LarsV8 » Thu Jan 2, 2025 10:08 pm

Honestly, with Booker (Fox as well), I really don't think their values are as high as people make them out to be.

Booker has been great, he also is having a fairly mediocre year, has been missing games, and is slated too be paid 60 million in 3 years.

He is trending toward KAT territory, and we saw what he got back.
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#5 » by Texas Chuck » Thu Jan 2, 2025 10:20 pm

And look how Towns is playing. Suggesting the Knicks underpaid. Devin Booker isn't getting traded but if he was put on the market, the Suns could recoup something nice. Especially since the buyer would almost certainly be envisioning him as their 2nd guy not their franchise guy.
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#6 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Jan 2, 2025 10:26 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:And look how Towns is playing. Suggesting the Knicks underpaid. Devin Booker isn't getting traded but if he was put on the market, the Suns could recoup something nice. Especially since the buyer would almost certainly be envisioning him as their 2nd guy not their franchise guy.



Yeah, if Booker is on the market, Phoenix should be able to get back MORE than all the picks and such they paid for KD/Beal combined.
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Post#7 » by MotownMadness » Thu Jan 2, 2025 10:28 pm

If he hits the market Houston has all of their picks. That’s where I expect him to end up.

That 25 Raptors pick holds some big value though
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#8 » by LarsV8 » Thu Jan 2, 2025 10:40 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Yeah, if Booker is on the market, Phoenix should be able to get back MORE than all the picks and such they paid for KD/Beal combined.


Maybe, but I think there is a real possibility that they get held over the coals.

They can go get a pile of late picks from another team, but then they will be bad and not have their own picks, which is worst case scenario. OKC probably doesn't want Booker. Utah, SA or Brooklyn could offer 5+ random firsts, but they probably wouldn't be good ones, and those teams really should not do that at their stages of rebuild.

You would have to hope for an all in scenario from a fringe contender. New York and Milwaukee kind of already cashed in. Perhaps Grizz, Denver, Dallas or maybe Orlando. Orlando probably has cost concerns.

I guess it only takes one team to make a bad trade, but all things considered, the Raptors 2025 pick offered here is a pretty good pick.
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#9 » by DarkXaero » Thu Jan 2, 2025 10:41 pm

It depends on where that Toronto '25 pick is because that's the main value here. I still think its a little short even if that pick is top 4.
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#10 » by jayjaysee » Thu Jan 2, 2025 11:25 pm

Houston can’t even give Phoenix a “tanking window due to the pick swaps they owe…

I don’t see a Booker trade either, but I think the OP is short.

Maybe on draft night though you look to just trade both KD and Booker for the top pick/package and ignore the pick debt/hope you draft well.
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#11 » by OGSactownballer » Thu Jan 2, 2025 11:34 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:This one is just for fun (aren't they all?).

Phoenix Trades:
Devin Booker

Toronto Trades:
RJ Barrett
Bruce Brown
2025 FRP (Toronto - unprotected)
2026 FRP (Toronto - unprotected)
2026 FRP (Indiana)

Toronto hedges their bets on a trio of Booker/Barnes/Quickley, hoping Devin can be the Batman that Barnes sorely needs. Phoenix gets ample draft considerations in a hypothetical scenario where they want to tear it down, and a large expiring that can be flipped in BB. Barrett also can be flipped for further draft consideration as he no longer has negative value like he did on the Knicks.

What do you think? Competitive offer?


These kind of offers for guys of the caliber of booker and Fox are pretty laughable really. All stars and all NBA caliber players get maximum compensation in return.

A near star with potential to be an all star (Barrett)
A large expiring (Brown)

Then you’re missing another one or two young players that have actual developmental potential and can become at least rotational players that fit the needs of the team you are dealing with pretty much right away and going forward.

Then a combo of probably four firsts (two lotto level) and three swaps.

That’s the range people need to be thinking about and has been a pretty standard price.
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#12 » by OGSactownballer » Thu Jan 2, 2025 11:38 pm

MotownMadness wrote:If he hits the market Houston has all of their picks. That’s where I expect him to end up.

That 25 Raptors pick holds some big value though


These kind first paragraph here is correct. And I’ll add that Houston has the right players as well. They are in the drivers seat here.

The second part is a question though. If you put Booker with Barnes and Quickley is healthy that becomes a pretty nasty team with over half the season to go.

I wouldn’t count on that pick necessarily even being lotto at that point as they could easily make the play in with that squad and get past it.
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#13 » by wegotthabeet » Thu Jan 2, 2025 11:47 pm

Is this the same Booker that complained about the Raptors mascot while at the free throw line in an empty arena?

If so easy pass.
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#14 » by Scoot McGroot » Fri Jan 3, 2025 12:05 am

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Scoot McGroot wrote:Yeah, if Booker is on the market, Phoenix should be able to get back MORE than all the picks and such they paid for KD/Beal combined.


Maybe, but I think there is a real possibility that they get held over the coals.

They can go get a pile of late picks from another team, but then they will be bad and not have their own picks, which is worst case scenario. OKC probably doesn't want Booker. Utah, SA or Brooklyn could offer 5+ random firsts, but they probably wouldn't be good ones, and those teams really should not do that at their stages of rebuild.

You would have to hope for an all in scenario from a fringe contender. New York and Milwaukee kind of already cashed in. Perhaps Grizz, Denver, Dallas or maybe Orlando. Orlando probably has cost concerns.

I guess it only takes one team to make a bad trade, but all things considered, the Raptors 2025 pick offered here is a pretty good pick.



I think a Booker hitting the market will draw enough suitors that he’ll draw a bidding war. I don’t think teams can all unite to offer last picks for Booker. Someone will want Booker enough to offer his market value.
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#15 » by Xman » Fri Jan 3, 2025 1:17 am

Houston has the talent accumulated to overpay. And, might do it because Booker is perfect fit.
Sheppard, Whitmore, expiring filler and a lot of picks. Jalen could go but due to poison pill, can only go to Detroit (or for te).
If Houston could roll:
Vleet, Booker, Brooks, Jabari, Sengun with Amen and Eason off the bench . . . . Scary
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#16 » by Laimbeer » Fri Jan 3, 2025 1:25 am

Suns are rebuilding, but still have KD and Beal as well as missing their own picks? And I don't think you're getting much of anything for Barrett.
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#17 » by LarsV8 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 2:40 am

Xman wrote:Houston has the talent accumulated to overpay. And, might do it because Booker is perfect fit.
Sheppard, Whitmore, expiring filler and a lot of picks. Jalen could go but due to poison pill, can only go to Detroit (or for te).
If Houston could roll:
Vleet, Booker, Brooks, Jabari, Sengun with Amen and Eason off the bench . . . . Scary


Houston won't be overpaying.

Happy to let him go to another team and boost the value of the Phoenix picks,.
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#18 » by MotownMadness » Fri Jan 3, 2025 2:48 am

LarsV8 wrote:
Xman wrote:Houston has the talent accumulated to overpay. And, might do it because Booker is perfect fit.
Sheppard, Whitmore, expiring filler and a lot of picks. Jalen could go but due to poison pill, can only go to Detroit (or for te).
If Houston could roll:
Vleet, Booker, Brooks, Jabari, Sengun with Amen and Eason off the bench . . . . Scary


Houston won't be overpaying.

Happy to let him go to another team and boost the value of the Phoenix picks,.

Wasn’t this type of trade scenario the whole reason why they traded Brooklyn back their picks?
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#19 » by LarsV8 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 3:07 am

MotownMadness wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:
Xman wrote:Houston has the talent accumulated to overpay. And, might do it because Booker is perfect fit.
Sheppard, Whitmore, expiring filler and a lot of picks. Jalen could go but due to poison pill, can only go to Detroit (or for te).
If Houston could roll:
Vleet, Booker, Brooks, Jabari, Sengun with Amen and Eason off the bench . . . . Scary


Houston won't be overpaying.

Happy to let him go to another team and boost the value of the Phoenix picks,.

Wasn’t this type of trade scenario the whole reason why they traded Brooklyn back their picks?


Maybe.

I'd be happy to give Phoenix their picks back for Booker.

Not multiple young players and additional picks on top of that.
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Re: Raptors Go After Booker 

Post#20 » by TorontoBarneys » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:34 am

I think if this year's pick hits top 2 and we throw in another future first then I definitely think that is a competitive offer for him. Sure there would be a higher quantity of picks package out there but you can't beat that quality if the pick hits that high this year.

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