2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 3

[eddieheatfan]

Wiggins
Anderson
Looney (expiring)
Payton(expiring)
2027 1st rd pick
2028 2nd rd pick

52.1 million
17.1 million in expirings

to Heat for

Butler
Love

52.6

get rid of rozier too. guy is inconsistent as a heat player. if i were me, i would send jimmy to spend time with lebron and brony

It’s not easy to just snap your fingers and dump someone like Rozier. He’ll be dealt next year when he has a good expiring contract to trade.

what are the chances of a multi targeted trade involving rozier, jimmy, jacquez and bam. wouldnt that give the heat assets for either rest of the season or next year? even if you have to tank it a little this season...in my view is a lost season anyway even with herro becoming larry bird before our eyes lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

For the nostalgic factor I like the idea of Gary Payton Jr getting to play here. I think he would fit in like a “glove” next to Herro lol

Every expiring they have to trade are actually solid vet players that would fit in here. Plus you get a very solid role player on Wiggins on top of it. Gotta get Terry out of here though asap because you can’t have 3 non all stars making $20-$30M a piece on the roster

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It has nothing to do with how Ware plays on the floor to me he is the only young guy on the roster with that type of demeanor to potentially be like that. Bam hasn’t been and never will be that guy. Your supposed franchise leader got waived off by Butler and not a word was exchanged about it between them. Your leader doesn’t need to be your best player. This wouldn’t be happening with Haslem around

Got waved off how? Were they supposed to stop playing mid defensive possession and talk it out?

He’s been stamped by UD who’s been around him his entire career. He was voted as the team captain for a reason. He huddles the guys up and chews into them mid game when needed we’ve seen it but ignore it because it’s Bam and agendas, he’s called team meetings after lackluster playoff games and chewed the team out.

The dismissal of Bam by this fanbase is weird as hell considering he always bust his ass, is always available, comes up huge in the biggest moments of the season, will be top 3 or leading every major statistic in Heat history when it’s all said and done, etc. we have a franchise greet on the roster when it’s all said and done and you all just spend 90% of the time **** on the dude, I hope he asks out too and goes somewhere with a competent FO where he’s appreciated.

Ware as the torch bearer when you’ve barely seen him is insane

Stop bunching in the whole fan base. It’s only a few. Bam is clearly the chosen one

Oh it’s the majority on here and definitely Twitter lol not even really debatable

[MettaWorldPanda]

C Bam C Ware C Looney
PF Jovic PF Anderson PF Johnson
SF Wiggins SF JJJ SF Highsmith SF Larrson
SG Herro SG Robinson SG Burks
PG Payton Jr PG Rozier

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It has nothing to do with how Ware plays on the floor to me he is the only young guy on the roster with that type of demeanor to potentially be like that. Bam hasn’t been and never will be that guy. Your supposed franchise leader got waived off by Butler and not a word was exchanged about it between them. Your leader doesn’t need to be your best player. This wouldn’t be happening with Haslem around

Seems you're projecting your own preferred personality/demeanor onto Ware in the absence of him showing much alternative.

Time will tell but that’s my observation from watching him play and carry himself in college, summer league, and this season. If he ends up being good enough for his words to carry some weight I think there is a good chance he will be a leader here.

Wasnt he known in college for having a bad attitude and low motor that had people worried about another Whiteside situation?

[al bondiga]

Looks like we should’ve taken the Knicks up on their Bridges offer considering they came for Jimmy first

Yup this should have been settled in the summer. Just not played very well at all. Pat don’t know when to let go before it’s too late

Stop it guys... I have a feeling that jb isn't extremely wanted around the league.

[batterybro42]

The collective iq of this fanbase is low as hell, Jesus Christ

Bam literally just checked Jimmy mid game for taking a terrible shot 2 nights ago. The dude is stamped by UD but Heat fans and their agendas need to be pushed I guess.

The second a young guy on the team has a good game the asinine takes begin. Last year Jaime was “a 25 PPG scorer” now Ware is the culture bearer, next Jovic will be a bigger Luka and so on. I remember Heat fans were trading Bam in favor of Yurt

It has nothing to do with how Ware plays on the floor to me he is the only young guy on the roster with that type of demeanor to potentially be like that. Bam hasn’t been and never will be that guy. Your supposed franchise leader got waived off by Butler and not a word was exchanged about it between them. Your leader doesn’t need to be your best player. This wouldn’t be happening with Haslem around

Got waved off how? Were they supposed to stop playing mid defensive possession and talk it out?

He’s been stamped by UD who’s been around him his entire career. He was voted as the team captain for a reason. He huddles the guys up and chews into them mid game when needed we’ve seen it but ignore it because it’s Bam and agendas, he’s called team meetings after lackluster playoff games and chewed the team out.

The dismissal of Bam by this fanbase is weird as hell considering he always bust his ass, is always available, comes up huge in the biggest moments of the season, will be top 3 or leading every major statistic in Heat history when it’s all said and done, etc. we have a franchise greet on the roster when it’s all said and done and you all just spend 90% of the time **** on the dude, I hope he asks out too and goes somewhere with a competent FO where he’s appreciated.

Ware as the torch bearer when you’ve barely seen him is insane

What I said was Ware to me is the only player on the roster with the demeanor to potentially be able to ever check somebody. Bam is great, but Bam isn’t UD and he is not a guy who is going to hold somebody accountable or step into a fight and protect his teammates. That’s just not Bam. Somebody anybody could have gone at Butler in a timeout when he was clearly throwing it in. Saw UD do it several times, I’ve even seen Mario Chalmers do it to LeBron James.

[MettaWorldPanda]

For the nostalgic factor I like the idea of Gary Payton Jr getting to play here. I think he would fit in like a “glove” next to Herro lol

Every expiring they have to trade are actually solid vet players that would fit in here. Plus you get a very solid role player on Wiggins on top of it. Gotta get Terry out of here though asap because you can’t have 3 non all stars making $20-$30M a piece on the roster

They can hold onto Terry and trade him with Duncan next year. 45 million in flippable contracts and plenty of cap space

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It has nothing to do with how Ware plays on the floor to me he is the only young guy on the roster with that type of demeanor to potentially be like that. Bam hasn’t been and never will be that guy. Your supposed franchise leader got waived off by Butler and not a word was exchanged about it between them. Your leader doesn’t need to be your best player. This wouldn’t be happening with Haslem around

Got waved off how? Were they supposed to stop playing mid defensive possession and talk it out?

He’s been stamped by UD who’s been around him his entire career. He was voted as the team captain for a reason. He huddles the guys up and chews into them mid game when needed we’ve seen it but ignore it because it’s Bam and agendas, he’s called team meetings after lackluster playoff games and chewed the team out.

The dismissal of Bam by this fanbase is weird as hell considering he always bust his ass, is always available, comes up huge in the biggest moments of the season, will be top 3 or leading every major statistic in Heat history when it’s all said and done, etc. we have a franchise greet on the roster when it’s all said and done and you all just spend 90% of the time **** on the dude, I hope he asks out too and goes somewhere with a competent FO where he’s appreciated.

Ware as the torch bearer when you’ve barely seen him is insane

What I said was Ware to me is the only player on the roster with the demeanor to potentially be able to ever check somebody. Bam is great, but Bam isn’t UD and he is not a guy who is going to hold somebody accountable or step into a fight and protect his teammates. That’s just not Bam. Somebody anybody could have gone at Butler in a timeout when he was clearly throwing it in. Saw UD do it several times, I’ve even seen Mario Chalmers do it to LeBron James.

[AirP.]

C Bam C Ware C Looney
PF Jovic PF Anderson PF Johnson
SF Wiggins SF JJJ SF Highsmith SF Larrson
SG Herro SG Robinson SG Burks
PG Payton Jr PG Rozier

That's just a good mid-level team; Miami needs to find a path towards acquiring an MVP level talent.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Looks like we should’ve taken the Knicks up on their Bridges offer considering they came for Jimmy first

Yup this should have been settled in the summer. Just not played very well at all. Pat don’t know when to let go before it’s too late

Stop it guys... I have a feeling that jb isn't extremely wanted around the league.

It’s reported they wanted Jimmy prior to trading for bridges but we didn’t want to trade him

[AirP.]

For the nostalgic factor I like the idea of Gary Payton Jr getting to play here. I think he would fit in like a “glove” next to Herro lol

Every expiring they have to trade are actually solid vet players that would fit in here. Plus you get a very solid role player on Wiggins on top of it. Gotta get Terry out of here though asap because you can’t have 3 non all stars making $20-$30M a piece on the roster

They can hold onto Terry and trade him with Duncan next year. 45 million in flippable contracts and plenty of cap space

Rozier and possibly Robinson are seen as negative assets this season, next season, especially closer to the deadline they'll be seen as positive assets. Both have been disasters for Miami for the resources it took to get/keep them in Miami, Robinson after being paid well completely fell out of the rotation at one time.

[greg4012]

There's something encouraging about getting closure IMO. Time to turn the page and build a unified vision.

[greg4012]

The collective iq of this fanbase is low as hell, Jesus Christ

Bam literally just checked Jimmy mid game for taking a terrible shot 2 nights ago. The dude is stamped by UD but Heat fans and their agendas need to be pushed I guess.

The second a young guy on the team has a good game the asinine takes begin. Last year Jaime was “a 25 PPG scorer” now Ware is the culture bearer, next Jovic will be a bigger Luka and so on. I remember Heat fans were trading Bam in favor of Yurt

It has nothing to do with how Ware plays on the floor to me he is the only young guy on the roster with that type of demeanor to potentially be like that. Bam hasn’t been and never will be that guy. Your supposed franchise leader got waived off by Butler and not a word was exchanged about it between them. Your leader doesn’t need to be your best player. This wouldn’t be happening with Haslem around

Got waved off how? Were they supposed to stop playing mid defensive possession and talk it out?

He’s been stamped by UD who’s been around him his entire career. He was voted as the team captain for a reason. He huddles the guys up and chews into them mid game when needed we’ve seen it but ignore it because it’s Bam and agendas, he’s called team meetings after lackluster playoff games and chewed the team out.

The dismissal of Bam by this fanbase is weird as hell considering he always bust his ass, is always available, comes up huge in the biggest moments of the season, will be top 3 or leading every major statistic in Heat history when it’s all said and done, etc. we have a franchise greet on the roster when it’s all said and done and you all just spend 90% of the time **** on the dude, I hope he asks out too and goes somewhere with a competent FO where he’s appreciated.

Ware as the torch bearer when you’ve barely seen him is insane

Nah bro--Bam was supposed to throw down with Jimmy right on the court mid game. Only way to earn my respect...

[AirP.]

There's something encouraging about getting closure IMO. Time to turn the page and build a unified vision.

Unified vision, maybe publicly it seems that way. Do you think Riley and Spoelstra see anywhere eye to eye on how to build this team? I think that has been the issue for a few years now. Spoelstra wants to go 3pt shooting while Riley still wants toughness and defense and trying to do a hybrid of both is hurting the team in the regular season.

[MettaWorldPanda]

For the nostalgic factor I like the idea of Gary Payton Jr getting to play here. I think he would fit in like a “glove” next to Herro lol

Every expiring they have to trade are actually solid vet players that would fit in here. Plus you get a very solid role player on Wiggins on top of it. Gotta get Terry out of here though asap because you can’t have 3 non all stars making $20-$30M a piece on the roster

This is why the Warriors are the clear cut heavy favorite right now. They just have the right pieces to make something happen with the expiring’s and solid vet role players. Wiggins sliding into the SF spot making 26 million is good value for what he brings.

[contract]

Ware piece at the end has me rollin

The collective iq of this fanbase is low as hell, Jesus Christ

Bam literally just checked Jimmy mid game for taking a terrible shot 2 nights ago. The dude is stamped by UD but Heat fans and their agendas need to be pushed I guess.

The second a young guy on the team has a good game the asinine takes begin. Last year Jaime was “a 25 PPG scorer” now Ware is the culture bearer, next Jovic will be a bigger Luka and so on. I remember Heat fans were trading Bam in favor of Yurt

It has nothing to do with how Ware plays on the floor to me he is the only young guy on the roster with that type of demeanor to potentially be like that. Bam hasn’t been and never will be that guy. Your supposed franchise leader got waived off by Butler and not a word was exchanged about it between them. Your leader doesn’t need to be your best player. This wouldn’t be happening with Haslem around

Have we forgotten the Whiteside drama? UD was here then.

[greg4012]

It has nothing to do with how Ware plays on the floor to me he is the only young guy on the roster with that type of demeanor to potentially be like that. Bam hasn’t been and never will be that guy. Your supposed franchise leader got waived off by Butler and not a word was exchanged about it between them. Your leader doesn’t need to be your best player. This wouldn’t be happening with Haslem around

Seems you're projecting your own preferred personality/demeanor onto Ware in the absence of him showing much alternative.

Time will tell but that’s my observation from watching him play and carry himself in college, summer league, and this season. If he ends up being good enough for his words to carry some weight I think there is a good chance he will be a leader here.

Was that at Oregon or at Indiana where he appeared to be a leader and culture bearer?

I watched virtually every play of his at Indiana (and am a big Ware fan) and I didn't see that in the slightest. I don't think he was exactly currying much favor during his stint at Oregon.

Dude doesn't really speak at all.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

C Bam C Ware C Looney
PF Jovic PF Anderson PF Johnson
SF Wiggins SF JJJ SF Highsmith SF Larrson
SG Herro SG Robinson SG Burks
PG Payton Jr PG Rozier

That's just a good mid-level team; Miami needs to find a path towards acquiring an MVP level talent.

You use the Rozier and Duncan contracts with picks to work out a Fox deal, try to retain the expirings.

Fox/Payton/Dru
Herro/Burks/Pelle
Wiggins/JJJ/Highsmith
Bam/Jovic/Anderson or Keshad
Ware/Looney/Love

Bam and Ware get more 3 point reps to end the year and continue to build on it next summer to become more reliable shooters for next season who are also massive lob threats for Fox

[greg4012]

Seems you're projecting your own preferred personality/demeanor onto Ware in the absence of him showing much alternative.

Time will tell but that’s my observation from watching him play and carry himself in college, summer league, and this season. If he ends up being good enough for his words to carry some weight I think there is a good chance he will be a leader here.

Wasnt he known in college for having a bad attitude and low motor that had people worried about another Whiteside situation?

Pretty much--whether the characterization was completely accurate or not, that was how Miami was able to draft him