Jimmy Butler to HOUSTON is the most logical outcome

[jbk1234]

Will the return be better than OG or Siakam? Seems like Riley has less leverage than in those situations.

Any time you have more than one team interested, you have some leverage, but I suspect the Heat are primarily concerned with just getting him away from the organization without taking on a bunch of bad money right now. They'll want him gone before the suspension is over.

[x-]

Don't see the Rockets trading FVV or any of their prospects except possibly Sheppard or Whitmore for Butler.

Maybe Sheppard together with all of their expiring vets (Tate, Adams, Landale, Jeff Green) and maybe minor draft compensation. Buy/sell low opportunity both ways.

Sengun Smith
Smith Eason
Butler Whitmore
Green Brooks
VanVleet Thompson

Crowded, but with injuries to Smith and Eason already, there should be enough minutes to keep everyone happy.

[MessiahUjiri]

Don't see the Rockets trading FVV or any of their prospects except possibly Sheppard or Whitmore for Butler.

Maybe Sheppard together with all of their expiring vets (Tate, Adams, Landale, Jeff Green) and maybe minor draft compensation. Buy/sell low opportunity both ways.

Sengun Smith
Smith Eason
Butler Brooks
Green Thompson
VanVleet Holiday

Crowded, but with injuries to Smith and Eason already, there should be enough minutes to keep everyone happy.

You probably need a bunch of vets around Jimmy to keep him in check.

Guys like Jeff Green and Steven Adama don’t contribute much on the court anymore, but they would make sure Jimmy isn’t running roughshod over the youngins.

[Celts17Pride]

If I was Houston and for some reason I was interested in Jimmy Butler the trade would be FVV and Whitmore and no draft picks. Miami says no, tell them to go pound sand. Miami has zero leverage.

Really don’t see why the Rockets would be interested

[Xman]

[quote="jbk1234"][quote="Xman"]Butler has said he is opting out. So, Miami should not expect a lot. Especially since most cannot make salary match.
Other issue: Brooks is perfect fit for the coach and sets the tone for the team. Vleet has shot them out of some games but his leadership is valuable (personally, I would ship him but it could backfire).
The guys Houston doesn’t mind dealing add up to enough salary: Adams, Landale, Tate, Holiday, JeffGreen. But, center depth would be an issue.
Jalen can pretty much only go to Detroit in a three team deal due to poison pill. 2025 pick cannot be traded due to Stepien rule.
Not sure how much should go for a half year rental.
If Miami isn’t giving up on the year, I like the idea of Ingram going to Miami and New Orleans getting a pick and/or one of whitmore/sheppard.

Could do it without CJ but adds flair:
Miami gets Ingram, CJ, Theis
Houston gets Butler
NO gets DRobinson, Tate, Landale, Adams, Holiday JeffGreen and second best of 2027 first bkn/phx/hou.[/quote]

The Pelicans aren't going to do that.[/quote]

Well, could add a little (whitmore or picks).

The way Vleet has been shooting, maybe push:
Miami gets Vleet, Whitmore, Theis and a couple of 2nds.
Houston gets Ingram and Butler.
NO gets Tate, Landale, JeffGreen, holiday, picks.
Houston could send 2027&29 phx picks but probably negotiates something less.

However, Miami owes firsts. Both are lottery protected and then unprotected. So, I think Miami would push for win now with a hope to extend their chances a few years. Ingram might be a great option there. And, if they could add CJ, that is a lot of scoring herro/rozier/ingram/cj along with Bam.
So, would be back to convincing New Orleans who has seemingly already cut ties with Ingram (out indefinitely for ankle sprain?). The incoming contracts are team options (Duncan is player option but will probably opt out). So, no salary hits. Plus, unloading CJ’s contract would give them flexibility (let’s Murray take control).
Murray/Murphy/Herb/Zion/Missi. With Alvarado and Hawkins backing up and rounding out a solid 1-3. Needs some big man depth but will have cap space and a nice high lottery pick coming in.

[islandboy53]

Don't see the Rockets trading FVV or any of their prospects except possibly Sheppard or Whitmore for Butler.

Maybe Sheppard together with all of their expiring vets (Tate, Adams, Landale, Jeff Green) and maybe minor draft compensation. Buy/sell low opportunity both ways.

Sengun Smith
Smith Eason
Butler Whitmore
Green Brooks
VanVleet Thompson

Crowded, but with injuries to Smith and Eason already, there should be enough minutes to keep everyone happy.

Add a third team. For example, send Adams and Jeff to Toronto and Brooks and perhaps Whitmore to Miami. Toronto sends Brown to Miami, and Miami sends Burks and Love, for example, along with Jimmy to Houston. Add in draft compensation as needed.

[K_chile22]

Generally not really interested in Jimmy and all the drama he entails or having to pay him on his next deal, teams not good enough to win a championship if they trade for him still, still too early, so I don't see the point in taking the risk things go sour as they tend to do with him

[jbk1234]

Butler has said he is opting out. So, Miami should not expect a lot. Especially since most cannot make salary match.
Other issue: Brooks is perfect fit for the coach and sets the tone for the team. Vleet has shot them out of some games but his leadership is valuable (personally, I would ship him but it could backfire).
The guys Houston doesn’t mind dealing add up to enough salary: Adams, Landale, Tate, Holiday, JeffGreen. But, center depth would be an issue.
Jalen can pretty much only go to Detroit in a three team deal due to poison pill. 2025 pick cannot be traded due to Stepien rule.
Not sure how much should go for a half year rental.
If Miami isn’t giving up on the year, I like the idea of Ingram going to Miami and New Orleans getting a pick and/or one of whitmore/sheppard.

Could do it without CJ but adds flair:
Miami gets Ingram, CJ, Theis
Houston gets Butler
NO gets DRobinson, Tate, Landale, Adams, Holiday JeffGreen and second best of 2027 first bkn/phx/hou.

The Pelicans aren't going to do that.

Well, could add a little (whitmore or picks).

The way Vleet has been shooting, maybe push:
Miami gets Vleet, Whitmore, Theis and a couple of 2nds.
Houston gets Ingram and Butler.
NO gets Tate, Landale, JeffGreen, holiday, picks.
Houston could send 2027&29 phx picks but probably negotiates something less.

However, Miami owes firsts. Both are lottery protected and then unprotected. So, I think Miami would push for win now with a hope to extend their chances a few years. Ingram might be a great option there. And, if they could add CJ, that is a lot of scoring herro/rozier/ingram/cj along with Bam.
So, would be back to convincing New Orleans who has seemingly already cut ties with Ingram (out indefinitely for ankle sprain?). The incoming contracts are team options (Duncan is player option but will probably opt out). So, no salary hits. Plus, unloading CJ’s contract would give them flexibility (let’s Murray take control).
Murray/Murphy/Herb/Zion/Missi. With Alvarado and Hawkins backing up and rounding out a solid 1-3. Needs some big man depth but will have cap space and a nice high lottery pick coming in.

Duncan will 100% pick up his option. He expires at the same time as CJ, and while CJ makes more, he's a lot better than Duncan. The Pelicans currently have plenty of flexibility as Ingram is on an expiring contract, and if they don't like the offers, they can just let him expire. I expect they get a better offer than this for Ingram though.

[Xman]

Only $9.88 guaranteed for duncan. Might be better taking that hit than paying CJ $30.6.

Could work in Washington where Washington takes duncan and one of the other expiring for expiring Brogdon or maybe send JVal to New Orleans with Washington getting a few seconds.