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[Shak_Celts]

NY stinks

Did you even see the game? The game as competitive until the 4th quarter. Celtics got the thunder next. Let’s see what they got.

My takeaway is that the Knicks are good but aren't ready to play good teams yet. Like I've been telling you, soft schedule until it's not.

My take of all the games I have watched, there are a lot of solid teams this season. Only a few horrible and the ones that are bad would dominate the bad teams from years past.

[playa-hater]

Last night S Curry almost broke the record for most 3s without a miss.. tonight it was Jaylen Wells. 8 for 9 from 3.. record us 9 fir 9.

Remember that is a second round pick that was hardly talked about but a team like Memphis with a coach like that giving a young rookie with no experience a real chance.

I love it when a coach feeds a young player with so much confidence versus taken it away.

[redslastlaugh]

Last night S Curry almost broke the record for most 3s without a miss.. tonight it was Jaylen Wells. 8 for 9 from 3.. record us 9 fir 9.

Remember that is a second round pick that was hardly talked about but a team like Memphis with a coach like that giving a young rookie with no experience a real chance.

I love it when a coach feeds a young player with so much confidence versus taken it away.

Wells contributing as a starter on a top seed in the West, just so valuable for the Grizz. Wells had 30 tonight, on 8-9 from 3 like you said. And the dude is making $1.1 million this year. That’s huge bang for the buck with how tight is the budget and the penalties in this new CBA

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Whenever people mention Jaylen Wells, all I can think about is this elite prank by John Konchar:

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Anyway cool to see him contribute this early in his career.

[Fierce1]

Sengun didn't look like an All-Star against the Celtics.

The double big lineup was the answer after KP struggled guarding Sengun at the start of the 1st qtr.

Rockets one of the best rebounding teams in the league and the Celtics outrebounded them 41-37.
Cs just got beat on the offensive boards 12-14.

I'm liking the double big lineup more and more.

Celtics can start and end the game with a single big.
That way the usual starting 5 will not be affected.
But for the majority of the game, a double big lineup is ideal.
It just makes scoring inside harder for the opposing team and the Celtics will be much better rebounding the ball.

[ConstableGeneva]

Yes!!! My boy!!!

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[phincsfan]

Yes!!! My boy!!!

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Spurs are 3 for 3 when it comes to hitting on #1 picks.

It's time they make the right splash for him. I really think Brandon Ingram would be a great fit next to Wemby for the next 4/5 years. They have quality role players who can do the secondary things and they are locked up for a window. Adding a young wing who can score all over and create for himself would take a lot of the heat off of Wemby.

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They don't need to get any younger so draft picks aren't important especially since they'll be in the playoffs for the next bunch of years.

I say:

Spurs get Ingram and Alvarado (just to take on an annoying contract)

Pels get Barnes, Castle if necessary and 25' Atl 1st, 25' and 25' Spurs 1st and whatever other 1st's are needed to make it happen. Spurs are loaded with future firsts.

[ConstableGeneva]

Yes!!! My boy!!!

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Spurs are 3 for 3 when it comes to hitting on #1 picks.

It's time they make the right splash for him. I really think Brandon Ingram would be a great fit next to Wemby for the next 4/5 years. They have quality role players who can do the secondary things and they are locked up for a window. Adding a young wing who can score all over and create for himself would take a lot of the heat off of Wemby.

Wemby-Sochan-Ingram-Vassell-CP3


They don't need to get any younger so draft picks aren't important especially since they'll be in the playoffs for the next bunch of years.

I say:

Spurs get Ingram and Alvarado (just to take on an annoying contract)

Pels get Barnes, Castle if necessary and 25' Atl 1st, 25' and 25' Spurs 1st and whatever other 1st's are needed to make it happen. Spurs are loaded with future firsts.

Ingram's trade value isn't that high (regardless of how I feel about his game which is meh). Spurs would be crazy to give up that much. Castle should definitely be off the table. He's a UFA looking for the max who doesn't deserve the max. Spurs priority should still be a young tallish playmaker. If that ends up being a wing (ala JT or Lebron), all the better but Ingram isn't that guy imo.

[playa-hater]

Tristan Da Silva, since getting his opportunity to play with Orlando's injuries, has played quite well. Last 10 - 31 minutes 47% and 40% splits. He was on my wish list that I hoped we could have traded up for. Probably had no chance. But another reason why I would rather target a player to move up for than drafting at 28+31. Of course it may not be possible. But in Brad I trust.

[fallguy]

That Knicks-OKC game was fantastic. Love both of those teams.

[ConstableGeneva]

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EDIT:
The theory that the 3-pt revolution has helped at-rim shooting efficiency is in full display with Boston. They've been top 2 in 3-pt attempt rate in Joe's 3 yrs as coach. C's have been top 4 in shooting efficiency within 3 feet of the rim every year (2nd this year).

[Shak_Celts]

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Spurs are 3 for 3 when it comes to hitting on #1 picks.

It's time they make the right splash for him. I really think Brandon Ingram would be a great fit next to Wemby for the next 4/5 years. They have quality role players who can do the secondary things and they are locked up for a window. Adding a young wing who can score all over and create for himself would take a lot of the heat off of Wemby.

Wemby-Sochan-Ingram-Vassell-CP3


They don't need to get any younger so draft picks aren't important especially since they'll be in the playoffs for the next bunch of years.

I say:

Spurs get Ingram and Alvarado (just to take on an annoying contract)

Pels get Barnes, Castle if necessary and 25' Atl 1st, 25' and 25' Spurs 1st and whatever other 1st's are needed to make it happen. Spurs are loaded with future firsts.

Ingram's trade value isn't that high (regardless of how I feel about his game which is meh). Spurs would be crazy to give up that much. Castle should definitely be off the table. He's a UFA looking for the max who doesn't deserve the max. Spurs priority should still be a young tallish playmaker. If that ends up being a wing (ala JT or Lebron), all the better but Ingram isn't that guy imo.

Heck, even a younger CP3 could do wonders for him. Look at how much better it’s going with 100 year-old Chris Paul! I think they need a point guard who can get his own and get the ball to Wemby. Without CP, I don’t think they get him the ball much at all. He could probably get at least 10 more easy buckets a game if the pass ever made it to him. He’s damn near open all the time, but he always has to reset or do something else because they can’t get him the ball.

[Shak_Celts]

Yes!!! My boy!!!

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People are hating in the comments talking about how the stats are misleading because they make it seem like he’s the best in all those categories. To me they are missing the overall point, he hasn’t beat EVERYBODY in all those categories, but look at how many different things he touches! Most of the guys in all those categories aren’t even on some of the others! He’s doing all of it, while beating some of the best in each category and up there with the people who lead those categories. They aren’t taking into account his position enough either. He’s touching the best guards AND bigs as ONE PERSON!!!!

I see he’s getting love, but he’s still underrated IMO. Injuries will be the only thing that can stop him. 21 (today) and doing things no one person has ever done!! Even in his bad games he is better than a lot of people. I’ll say it again, doing what he’s doing on both ends is CRAZY!! He’s KP, but the MJ version of it!

[ConstableGeneva]

Spurs are 3 for 3 when it comes to hitting on #1 picks.

It's time they make the right splash for him. I really think Brandon Ingram would be a great fit next to Wemby for the next 4/5 years. They have quality role players who can do the secondary things and they are locked up for a window. Adding a young wing who can score all over and create for himself would take a lot of the heat off of Wemby.

Wemby-Sochan-Ingram-Vassell-CP3


They don't need to get any younger so draft picks aren't important especially since they'll be in the playoffs for the next bunch of years.

I say:

Spurs get Ingram and Alvarado (just to take on an annoying contract)

Pels get Barnes, Castle if necessary and 25' Atl 1st, 25' and 25' Spurs 1st and whatever other 1st's are needed to make it happen. Spurs are loaded with future firsts.

Ingram's trade value isn't that high (regardless of how I feel about his game which is meh). Spurs would be crazy to give up that much. Castle should definitely be off the table. He's a UFA looking for the max who doesn't deserve the max. Spurs priority should still be a young tallish playmaker. If that ends up being a wing (ala JT or Lebron), all the better but Ingram isn't that guy imo.

Heck, even a younger CP3 could do wonders for him. Look at how much better it’s going with 100 year-old Chris Paul! I think they need a point guard who can get his own and get the ball to Wemby. Without CP, I don’t think they get him the ball much at all. He could probably get at least 10 more easy buckets a game if the pass ever made it to him. He’s damn near open all the time, but he always has to reset or do something else because they can’t get him the ball.

I don't like his game that much, but LaMelo Ball would be a fun player to pair him with. Of the "available" ones, maybe Fox is the best fit. Even someone like Brunson would elevate Wemby's game. Look at how well KAT is doing in NY. I think they still hold the highest efficiency in PnR. On high volume too.

[Shak_Celts]

Ingram's trade value isn't that high (regardless of how I feel about his game which is meh). Spurs would be crazy to give up that much. Castle should definitely be off the table. He's a UFA looking for the max who doesn't deserve the max. Spurs priority should still be a young tallish playmaker. If that ends up being a wing (ala JT or Lebron), all the better but Ingram isn't that guy imo.

Heck, even a younger CP3 could do wonders for him. Look at how much better it’s going with 100 year-old Chris Paul! I think they need a point guard who can get his own and get the ball to Wemby. Without CP, I don’t think they get him the ball much at all. He could probably get at least 10 more easy buckets a game if the pass ever made it to him. He’s damn near open all the time, but he always has to reset or do something else because they can’t get him the ball.

I don't like his game that much, but LaMelo Ball would be a fun player to pair him with. Of the "available" ones, maybe Fox is the best fit. Even someone like Brunson would elevate Wemby's game. Look at how well KAT is doing in NY. I think they still hold the highest efficiency in PnR. On high volume too.

I feel like the spurs are going to wait for growth. I don’t think it’s wrong, Celtics did it, I do think it doesn’t have to be for everybody. Some players you need to go for it early. Maybe half of year 2 is still too early but I bet the Cavs would do it differently with LBJ if they knew he was going to leave. I bet they would have done anything to cash in assets to give him what he wanted. The lakers did it a couple times with Uncle LBJ, Cavs played in his face during his prime. Denver is playing in Jokic’s face right now!

Without Wemby, the spurs would probably struggle to win a handful of games in a season. I wouldn’t make crippling moves but I definitely would bring in another star with their assets! No way I’m letting them end this season with that team, unless a YOUNG star isn’t available.

Ball is an excellent player, Wemby would probably get mad at him though because he doesn’t look like he takes things seriously enough. Wemby wants to be the best ever. Ball, right now, seems like he wants to be one of the current best. That’s not a bad thing, but it’s the difference between great(est) and very good. With that said, it would still work on the court, likely extremely well. Ball will score in bunches, that will be highly useful, but he may be the best passing PG in the NBA. He has crazy vision. Doesn’t mean he always uses it, but he has IT. Maybe Trae is a better passer, but I’m not thinking about it hard enough. (Luka isn’t a PG! Jokic either lol)

[ConstableGeneva]

Heck, even a younger CP3 could do wonders for him. Look at how much better it’s going with 100 year-old Chris Paul! I think they need a point guard who can get his own and get the ball to Wemby. Without CP, I don’t think they get him the ball much at all. He could probably get at least 10 more easy buckets a game if the pass ever made it to him. He’s damn near open all the time, but he always has to reset or do something else because they can’t get him the ball.

I don't like his game that much, but LaMelo Ball would be a fun player to pair him with. Of the "available" ones, maybe Fox is the best fit. Even someone like Brunson would elevate Wemby's game. Look at how well KAT is doing in NY. I think they still hold the highest efficiency in PnR. On high volume too.

I feel like the spurs are going to wait for growth. I don’t think it’s wrong, Celtics did it, I do think it doesn’t have to be for everybody. Some players you need to go for it early. Maybe half of year 2 is still too early but I bet the Cavs would do it differently with LBJ if they knew he was going to leave. I bet they would have done anything to cash in assets to give him what he wanted. The lakers did it a couple times with Uncle LBJ, Cavs played in his face during his prime. Denver is playing in Jokic’s face right now!

Without Wemby, the spurs would probably struggle to win a handful of games in a season. I wouldn’t make crippling moves but I definitely would bring in another star with their assets! No way I’m letting them end this season with that team, unless a YOUNG star isn’t available.

Ball is an excellent player, Wemby would probably get mad at him though because he doesn’t look like he takes things seriously enough. Wemby wants to be the best ever. Ball, right now, seems like he wants to be one of the current best. That’s not a bad thing, but it’s the difference between great(est) and very good. With that said, it would still work on the court, likely extremely well. Ball will score in bunches, that will be highly useful, but he may be the best passing PG in the NBA. He has crazy vision. Doesn’t mean he always uses it, but he has IT. Maybe Trae is a better passer, but I’m not thinking about it hard enough. (Luka isn’t a PG! Jokic either lol)

Didn't want to say underlined out loud but that's exactly what I was thinking. Which is kinda unfair 'cos I don't really know him know him. Just based on what I've seen, which isn't much.

[Shak_Celts]

Ingram's trade value isn't that high (regardless of how I feel about his game which is meh). Spurs would be crazy to give up that much. Castle should definitely be off the table. He's a UFA looking for the max who doesn't deserve the max. Spurs priority should still be a young tallish playmaker. If that ends up being a wing (ala JT or Lebron), all the better but Ingram isn't that guy imo.

Heck, even a younger CP3 could do wonders for him. Look at how much better it’s going with 100 year-old Chris Paul! I think they need a point guard who can get his own and get the ball to Wemby. Without CP, I don’t think they get him the ball much at all. He could probably get at least 10 more easy buckets a game if the pass ever made it to him. He’s damn near open all the time, but he always has to reset or do something else because they can’t get him the ball.

I don't like his game that much, but LaMelo Ball would be a fun player to pair him with. Of the "available" ones, maybe Fox is the best fit. Even someone like Brunson would elevate Wemby's game. Look at how well KAT is doing in NY. I think they still hold the highest efficiency in PnR. On high volume too.

On Brunson, I think he’ll have to be on his last leg before Knicks entertain moving him. Even if Brunson doesn’t win it all, they will keep him for buzz. They have gone all out recently, and even though I think they want to win the chip, they will be happy being in a bunch of ECF for years. Knicks will always get eyes, they don’t need to win. Brunson, if healthy, could do that for a long time.


Let me ask you, if they don’t go PG, who and what position should they try instead? With CP3 they could probably get away with getting another position. I still think a younger penetrating and dishing PG/G is the choice I’m going with, but if you had to go with another position, lmk.

[ConstableGeneva]

Heck, even a younger CP3 could do wonders for him. Look at how much better it’s going with 100 year-old Chris Paul! I think they need a point guard who can get his own and get the ball to Wemby. Without CP, I don’t think they get him the ball much at all. He could probably get at least 10 more easy buckets a game if the pass ever made it to him. He’s damn near open all the time, but he always has to reset or do something else because they can’t get him the ball.

I don't like his game that much, but LaMelo Ball would be a fun player to pair him with. Of the "available" ones, maybe Fox is the best fit. Even someone like Brunson would elevate Wemby's game. Look at how well KAT is doing in NY. I think they still hold the highest efficiency in PnR. On high volume too.

On Brunson, I think he’ll have to be on his last leg before Knicks entertain moving him. Even if Brunson doesn’t win it all, they will keep him for buzz. They have gone all out recently, and even though I think they want to win the chip, they will be happy being in a bunch of ECF for years. Knicks will always get eyes, they don’t need to win. Brunson, if healthy, could do that for a long time.


Let me ask you, if they don’t go PG, who and what position should they try instead? With CP3 they could probably get away with getting another position. I still think a younger penetrating and dishing PG/G is the choice I’m going with, but if you had to go with another position, lmk.

Has to be realistic?

[ConstableGeneva]

Heck, even a younger CP3 could do wonders for him. Look at how much better it’s going with 100 year-old Chris Paul! I think they need a point guard who can get his own and get the ball to Wemby. Without CP, I don’t think they get him the ball much at all. He could probably get at least 10 more easy buckets a game if the pass ever made it to him. He’s damn near open all the time, but he always has to reset or do something else because they can’t get him the ball.

I don't like his game that much, but LaMelo Ball would be a fun player to pair him with. Of the "available" ones, maybe Fox is the best fit. Even someone like Brunson would elevate Wemby's game. Look at how well KAT is doing in NY. I think they still hold the highest efficiency in PnR. On high volume too.

I feel like the spurs are going to wait for growth. I don’t think it’s wrong, Celtics did it, I do think it doesn’t have to be for everybody. Some players you need to go for it early. Maybe half of year 2 is still too early but I bet the Cavs would do it differently with LBJ if they knew he was going to leave. I bet they would have done anything to cash in assets to give him what he wanted. The lakers did it a couple times with Uncle LBJ, Cavs played in his face during his prime. Denver is playing in Jokic’s face right now!

Without Wemby, the spurs would probably struggle to win a handful of games in a season. I wouldn’t make crippling moves but I definitely would bring in another star with their assets! No way I’m letting them end this season with that team, unless a YOUNG star isn’t available.

Ball is an excellent player, Wemby would probably get mad at him though because he doesn’t look like he takes things seriously enough. Wemby wants to be the best ever. Ball, right now, seems like he wants to be one of the current best. That’s not a bad thing, but it’s the difference between great(est) and very good. With that said, it would still work on the court, likely extremely well. Ball will score in bunches, that will be highly useful, but he may be the best passing PG in the NBA. He has crazy vision. Doesn’t mean he always uses it, but he has IT. Maybe Trae is a better passer, but I’m not thinking about it hard enough. (Luka isn’t a PG! Jokic either lol)

TBF to Danny Ainge, he tried to accelerate the winning phase of the rebuild. Misfortune struck before we could find out what the team could accomplish. JB just got drafted when we signed Al Horford. JT just got drafted when we traded for Kyrie and signed Hayward. We were poised to at least make the Finals. IINM, we were the odds on favorite to win it all that season before Hayward broke his leg. That really set us back, winning-wise, but accelerated the growth of Tatum and Brown. JT especially.

[playa-hater]

Ingram's trade value isn't that high (regardless of how I feel about his game which is meh). Spurs would be crazy to give up that much. Castle should definitely be off the table. He's a UFA looking for the max who doesn't deserve the max. Spurs priority should still be a young tallish playmaker. If that ends up being a wing (ala JT or Lebron), all the better but Ingram isn't that guy imo.

Heck, even a younger CP3 could do wonders for him. Look at how much better it’s going with 100 year-old Chris Paul! I think they need a point guard who can get his own and get the ball to Wemby. Without CP, I don’t think they get him the ball much at all. He could probably get at least 10 more easy buckets a game if the pass ever made it to him. He’s damn near open all the time, but he always has to reset or do something else because they can’t get him the ball.

I don't like his game that much, but LaMelo Ball would be a fun player to pair him with. Of the "available" ones, maybe Fox is the best fit. Even someone like Brunson would elevate Wemby's game. Look at how well KAT is doing in NY. I think they still hold the highest efficiency in PnR. On high volume too.

The Best possible Guard for the Spurs shouldn't be a ball dominant guard like Melo or Brunson, but rather an all-around Guard that can step it when needed but very happy to keep Wemby top Priority. 20 years ago, it would have been Chauncey Billups. Now it is....Derrick White