Is there any interest in Grayson Allen and Tyus Jones to the same team, 2 separate trades?

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Re: Is there any interest in Grayson Allen and Tyus Jones to the same team, 2 separate trades? 

Post#21 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Sat Jan 4, 2025 9:42 pm

oldncreaky wrote:
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winforlose wrote:
Again, making the Suns who don’t own their own picks worse for the sake of making them worse. You make a move like this for picks, not to just to **** over your players and fans. Sorry to say ;)

The move is strictly financial imo. Turn Allen contract into Gabe Vincent contracts.

What type of picks jones and Allen worth? Can Allen net expiring in your opinion ?


If the move is strictly financial, DET might make sense as the destination

But for DET, the only thing I'd be willing to give up is the cap space

Grayson Allen for Wendell Moore Jr ($2.5M, expiring) works, and saves PHX $13M in salary (and a bunch of taxes) this year

Think this probably makes the most financial sense for both teams if Suns tear it down.
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Re: Is there any interest in Grayson Allen and Tyus Jones to the same team, 2 separate trades? 

Post#22 » by winforlose » Sat Jan 4, 2025 9:46 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
oldncreaky wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:The move is strictly financial imo. Turn Allen contract into Gabe Vincent contracts.

What type of picks jones and Allen worth? Can Allen net expiring in your opinion ?


If the move is strictly financial, DET might make sense as the destination

But for DET, the only thing I'd be willing to give up is the cap space

Grayson Allen for Wendell Moore Jr ($2.5M, expiring) works, and saves PHX $13M in salary (and a bunch of taxes) this year

Think this probably makes the most financial sense for both teams if Suns tear it down.


Look at the Suns pick situation, look at the Beal situation, and explain how to do that?
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Re: Is there any interest in Grayson Allen and Tyus Jones to the same team, 2 separate trades? 

Post#23 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Sat Jan 4, 2025 9:51 pm

winforlose wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
oldncreaky wrote:
If the move is strictly financial, DET might make sense as the destination

But for DET, the only thing I'd be willing to give up is the cap space

Grayson Allen for Wendell Moore Jr ($2.5M, expiring) works, and saves PHX $13M in salary (and a bunch of taxes) this year

Think this probably makes the most financial sense for both teams if Suns tear it down.


Look at the Suns pick situation, look at the Beal situation, and explain how to do that?

I mean they need to win games? That’s the only thing that improves their larger problems.

Any trade involving Allen isn’t going to solve the Sun picks or Beal problems.

They are currently out of the playoffs. If they still out of the playoffs by the deadline it makes a lot of financial sense to reduce their tax bill greatly.
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Re: Is there any interest in Grayson Allen and Tyus Jones to the same team, 2 separate trades? 

Post#24 » by They_Them_Hatin » Sat Jan 4, 2025 10:02 pm

Mavrelous wrote:ORL is the team for both of them.
Gary Harris + Jett Howard + DEN 1st for Allen + Tyus.

I doubt they trade Tyus. Bad optics for attracting free agents trying to get a bigger contract since we’re going to need them if we can’t get under the 2nd apron but I like this trade a lot. Make it a 3 team trade & send Gary to the Nets for Sharpe+ filler 2nds.
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Re: Is there any interest in Grayson Allen and Tyus Jones to the same team, 2 separate trades? 

Post#25 » by They_Them_Hatin » Sat Jan 4, 2025 10:07 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:I’ll the start the low bidding at a trending up Gabe Vincent and a young expiring JHS

Yuck! Might as well keep Grayson if we’re trading him for Vincent on that contract. JHS is a bust. What does Phoenix gain from this?
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Post#26 » by winforlose » Sat Jan 4, 2025 10:13 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
winforlose wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Think this probably makes the most financial sense for both teams if Suns tear it down.


Look at the Suns pick situation, look at the Beal situation, and explain how to do that?

I mean they need to win games? That’s the only thing that improves their larger problems.

Any trade involving Allen isn’t going to solve the Sun picks or Beal problems.

They are currently out of the playoffs. If they still out of the playoffs by the deadline it makes a lot of financial sense to reduce their tax bill greatly.


Okay then they should give their players away for nothing to the Lakers? Why not the Knicks, or Spurs, or Pistons, or Thunder. Your whole argument is that they should intentionally piss of their fans (the people who actually pay for things,) to save money on overhead. Worse, you aren’t even giving them the best outlet for that. You are just saying my team should get better for free. News flash, no one wants LAL’s bad players. No one wants to give LAL free stuff. Maybe toss in draft picks or design a trade that gives them Austin Reaves and takes back Beal if you want to help the Suns.
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Re: Is there any interest in Grayson Allen and Tyus Jones to the same team, 2 separate trades? 

Post#27 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Sat Jan 4, 2025 10:25 pm

They_Them_Hatin wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:I’ll the start the low bidding at a trending up Gabe Vincent and a young expiring JHS

Yuck! Might as well keep Grayson if we’re trading him for Vincent on that contract. JHS is a bust. What does Phoenix gain from this?

Not sure how you gain anything on the court wise trading Allen without assets?
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Post#28 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Sat Jan 4, 2025 10:29 pm

winforlose wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
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Look at the Suns pick situation, look at the Beal situation, and explain how to do that?

I mean they need to win games? That’s the only thing that improves their larger problems.

Any trade involving Allen isn’t going to solve the Sun picks or Beal problems.

They are currently out of the playoffs. If they still out of the playoffs by the deadline it makes a lot of financial sense to reduce their tax bill greatly.


Okay then they should give their players away for nothing to the Lakers? Why not the Knicks, or Spurs, or Pistons, or Thunder. Your whole argument is that they should intentionally piss of their fans (the people who actually pay for things,) to save money on overhead. Worse, you aren’t even giving them the best outlet for that. You are just saying my team should get better for free. News flash, no one wants LAL’s bad players. No one wants to give LAL free stuff. Maybe toss in draft picks or design a trade that gives them Austin Reaves and takes back Beal if you want to help the Suns.


Makes most financial sense give Allen to Detroit like i said in the thread. You are typing a lot of characters to say nothing lol if you think Gabe , JHS and draft capital is a better idea then just say that.

You reading way into much into nothing lol go enjoy your weekend man
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Post#29 » by winforlose » Sat Jan 4, 2025 10:53 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
winforlose wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:I mean they need to win games? That’s the only thing that improves their larger problems.

Any trade involving Allen isn’t going to solve the Sun picks or Beal problems.

They are currently out of the playoffs. If they still out of the playoffs by the deadline it makes a lot of financial sense to reduce their tax bill greatly.


Okay then they should give their players away for nothing to the Lakers? Why not the Knicks, or Spurs, or Pistons, or Thunder. Your whole argument is that they should intentionally piss of their fans (the people who actually pay for things,) to save money on overhead. Worse, you aren’t even giving them the best outlet for that. You are just saying my team should get better for free. News flash, no one wants LAL’s bad players. No one wants to give LAL free stuff. Maybe toss in draft picks or design a trade that gives them Austin Reaves and takes back Beal if you want to help the Suns.


Makes most financial sense give Allen to Detroit like i said in the thread. You are typing a lot of characters to say nothing lol if you think Gabe , JHS and draft capital is a better idea then just say that.

You reading way into much into nothing lol go enjoy your weekend man


My bad, I thought you said Gabe and JHS was better than the Detroit idea (I think I was the person who first brought up Detroit :) ).
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Re: Is there any interest in Grayson Allen and Tyus Jones to the same team, 2 separate trades? 

Post#30 » by winforlose » Sat Jan 4, 2025 10:55 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Allen is a better two way wing than DDV.

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Disagree. Allen is dirtier than DDV, but not better.

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