Jimmy Butler to Spurs for Picks

BrianInPhilly · Post #1 » by **BrianInPhilly** » Sat Jan 4, 2025 8:47 pm

Am I crazy for thinking Spurs should take a swing at Butler? It’s a real chance to land a legit forward to complement their guards & Wemby, but he has enough baggage to where they don’t need to mortgage Vassell / Castle.

Given how wide open the West is outside of OKC, they should go for it in my opinion. Butler is a solid fit with their team; they jack a physical wing guy that can get a bucket and drive right now.

Would Miami accept simply picks though? That’s the question. Would they accept a Harrison Barnes - Keldon Johnson - end of bencher (few million more to match salaries) - picks deals. If I’m San Antonio I’d easily do 3 1st rounders and even think about more considering Miami is taking on extra year for Barnes & Johnson. They have lots of picks, can’t draft them all. They have enough where they can still utilize picks in future deal.

Spurs would look really solid in my opinion with some unique lineup combinations

Guards - Chris Paul, Vassell, Castle, Tre Jones
Forwards - Butler, Champagne, Sochan
Center - Wemby, Collins/Bassey (though I like Sochan as small ball 5 for non Wemby minutes)

Best lineup would be Paul/Castle-Vassell-Butler-Champagne-Wemby in my opinion.

Thoughts?

babyjax13 · Post #2 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Jan 4, 2025 8:49 pm

Barnes + Johnson + 2 1sts (and not the best picks SAS has) seems okay on value...but...I wouldn't want to mess with their chemistry, tbh

SlimShady83 · Post #3 » by **SlimShady83** » Sat Jan 4, 2025 8:56 pm

Spurs need to stay away from this. Fox Is their answer to team up with Wemby, not Butler

BrianInPhilly · Post #4 » by **BrianInPhilly** » Sat Jan 4, 2025 9:24 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Spurs need to stay away from this. Fox Is their answer to team up with Wemby, not Butler

Perhaps but issue is Fox would cost much more. And it would still leave them with a hole to fill at the forward spot. Tough to contend with their current forward rotation.

redslastlaugh · Post #5 » by **redslastlaugh** » Sat Jan 4, 2025 9:26 pm

If Jimmy was 29, I don’t think SAS would have interest. They have a type and their type isn’t Jimmy Butler

brackdan70 · Post #6 » by **brackdan70** » Sat Jan 4, 2025 9:28 pm

Butler doesn’t make them a contender and doesn’t help development of their young guys. Not a great role model imo. Spurs are much better off sitting on their hands. At a minimum do not trade any real assets for him. No firsts.

One_and_Done · Post #7 » by **One_and_Done** » Sat Jan 4, 2025 9:32 pm

Spurs won't pay much for Butler, if they'd take him at all.

SlimShady83 · Post #8 » by **SlimShady83** » Sat Jan 4, 2025 9:37 pm

BrianInPhilly wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Spurs need to stay away from this. Fox Is their answer to team up with Wemby, not Butler

Perhaps but issue is Fox would cost much more. And it would still leave them with a hole to fill at the forward spot. Tough to contend with their current forward rotation.

Of course It would cost more, I'm a Laker fan and I would sell the farm for Fox to pair with AD ...

Max, Reaves, Knecht, Rui others + the 2 pics just to pair Fox and AD together.

And Reaves Is my boy along with emerging Max. But I'd still do It for the pairing of Fox/AD

Spurs should look at for Fox as well. Fox/Wemby combo omg.

BigGargamel · Post #9 » by **BigGargamel** » Sat Jan 4, 2025 9:37 pm

Nah. Even with Butler, they aren't a contender. No need to rush things.

If they want to make a trade, do it for a point guard still in his 20's. Not a 35 year old.

DanishLakerFan · Post #10 » by **DanishLakerFan** » Sat Jan 4, 2025 10:13 pm

Spurs should stay far away from Butler and focus on building a strong culture around Wemby.

wemby · Post #11 » by **wemby** » Sat Jan 4, 2025 10:39 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Butler doesn’t make them a contender and doesn’t help development of their young guys. Not a great role model imo. Spurs are much better off sitting on their hands. At a minimum do not trade any real assets for him. No firsts.

Yeah, this is very close to how Spurs FO feels I believe. Hard pass.

Post #12 » by **BBallFreak** » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:11 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Butler doesn’t make them a contender and doesn’t help development of their young guys. Not a great role model imo. Spurs are much better off sitting on their hands. At a minimum do not trade any real assets for him. No firsts.

A dialed-in Jimmy is a great role model. He's all about work ethic and accountability. The problem comes when he inevitably checks out, but that's not for a few years.

Why on earth would Miami trade him without any assets coming back? I understand the point that SAS shouldn't trade for him at all, and I agree with that, but be realistic enough to state that SAS shouldn't pay what it's going to cost to get him, because Miami will come away with something worthwhile. It won't be a haul, but it will be something...

brackdan70 · Post #13 » by **brackdan70** » Sun Jan 5, 2025 1:06 am

BBallFreak wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:Butler doesn’t make them a contender and doesn’t help development of their young guys. Not a great role model imo. Spurs are much better off sitting on their hands. At a minimum do not trade any real assets for him. No firsts.

A dialed-in Jimmy is a great role model. He's all about work ethic and accountability. The problem comes when he inevitably checks out, but that's not for a few years.

Why on earth would Miami trade him without any assets coming back? I understand the point that SAS shouldn't trade for him at all, and I agree with that, but be realistic enough to state that SAS shouldn't pay what it's going to cost to get him, because Miami will come away with something worthwhile. It won't be a haul, but it will be something...

I am speaking in the context of the spurs since that’s what the thread is about.
I would guess if he is traded somewhere Miami will get at least a useful younger player or a pick. I don’t think much more though and I think the options are limited. I am just saying Spurs shouldn’t touch him.

Post #14 » by **BBallFreak** » Sun Jan 5, 2025 1:10 am

brackdan70 wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:Butler doesn’t make them a contender and doesn’t help development of their young guys. Not a great role model imo. Spurs are much better off sitting on their hands. At a minimum do not trade any real assets for him. No firsts.

A dialed-in Jimmy is a great role model. He's all about work ethic and accountability. The problem comes when he inevitably checks out, but that's not for a few years.

Why on earth would Miami trade him without any assets coming back? I understand the point that SAS shouldn't trade for him at all, and I agree with that, but be realistic enough to state that SAS shouldn't pay what it's going to cost to get him, because Miami will come away with something worthwhile. It won't be a haul, but it will be something...

I am speaking in the context of the spurs since that’s what the thread is about.
I would guess if he is traded somewhere Miami will get at least a useful younger player or a pick. I don’t think much more though and I think the options are limited. I am just saying Spurs shouldn’t touch him.

This thread is literally about both teams.

brackdan70 · Post #15 » by **brackdan70** » Sun Jan 5, 2025 2:05 am

BBallFreak wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:A dialed-in Jimmy is a great role model. He's all about work ethic and accountability. The problem comes when he inevitably checks out, but that's not for a few years.

Why on earth would Miami trade him without any assets coming back? I understand the point that SAS shouldn't trade for him at all, and I agree with that, but be realistic enough to state that SAS shouldn't pay what it's going to cost to get him, because Miami will come away with something worthwhile. It won't be a haul, but it will be something...

I am speaking in the context of the spurs since that’s what the thread is about.
I would guess if he is traded somewhere Miami will get at least a useful younger player or a pick. I don’t think much more though and I think the options are limited. I am just saying Spurs shouldn’t touch him.

This thread is literally about both teams.

It’s a proposed trade between the two teams. I am saying Spurs shouldn’t consider it. That’s all.

stillgotgame · Post #16 » by **stillgotgame** » Sun Jan 5, 2025 6:10 am

Spurs have 4 potential 1sts this year. Why not use 2 of them to dump their baggage and take a swing with Jimmy?

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8825693

Spurs out:
Johnson
Barnes
Collins
2 1st round picks (protected 1-10)

Spurs in:
Jimmy
Highsmith
Jovic

Saves Miami about $12M including tax savings.

BrianInPhilly · Post #17 » by **BrianInPhilly** » Sun Jan 5, 2025 12:50 pm

I hear what everyone is saying in this thread that Spurs shouldn’t touch Jimmy … yet I watch the game last night & some physical bucket getter at the 3’ spot is literally what they need to help Wemby. What’s the plan to get that player? Still think with Jimmy they could make noise this season & he can help another year or 2 also.

Wemby is great right now and tbh I don’t think Spurs should be too patient. You have to look at Wemby’s prime as loooong meaning he’ll be great for a solid 12 more years. They can have multiple type of teams in that run. The idea they can be patient and wait to find some perfect younger forward to complement makes sense in theory but they prob can’t get this guy till another year or 2 or 3 anyway. Why not have Butler be that guy in the meantime? Are Spurs content to just have Castle/Vassell be Wemby’s sidekicks till they find someone better?

I just think a Castle-Vassell-Wemby-Butler core the next 2-3 years is a solid option. + Sochan/Champagne … can make another trade too. I don’t think it’s wise to just sit on all these picks, gotta make some move. So what’s a better alternative?