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Re: Wembanyama. I'm concerned 

Post#1921 » by RRR3 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:54 am

HotRocks34 wrote:2/12 on threes tonight in the loss to Denver. 5/7 on twos.

Live by the three, die by the three.

A Westbrick fan trying to talk **** about efficiency :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Wembanyama. I'm concerned 

Post#1922 » by Castle Black » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:55 am

Yea poor night shooting from 3 for Wemby tonight. Also looked fatigued in the 2nd half after playing a lot of minutes last night. You could tell he didn't have his legs underneath him on his jump shots tonight. And unfortunately if Wemby doesn’t score, we don’t win games because the rest of our roster is buns. Absolutely have to get him some more help this off-season.
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Post#1923 » by HotRocks34 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:57 am

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HotRocks34 wrote:2/12 on threes tonight in the loss to Denver. 5/7 on twos.

Live by the three, die by the three.

A Westbrick fan trying to talk **** about efficiency :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


If Russ shot as many threes as Wemby I would blast him big time. :lol:
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Post#1924 » by Deathray » Sun Jan 5, 2025 4:00 am

Something Wemby definitely needs to work on is handling the ball in traffic. He gets stripped too much.
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Re: Wembanyama. I'm concerned 

Post#1925 » by RRR3 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 4:02 am

HotRocks34 wrote:
RRR3 wrote:
HotRocks34 wrote:2/12 on threes tonight in the loss to Denver. 5/7 on twos.

Live by the three, die by the three.

A Westbrick fan trying to talk **** about efficiency :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


If Russ shot as many threes as Wemby I would blast him big time. :lol:

Except Wemby can shoot. :crazy:

People have bad games, it happens.
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Post#1926 » by HotRocks34 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 4:03 am

RRR3 wrote:
HotRocks34 wrote:
RRR3 wrote:A Westbrick fan trying to talk **** about efficiency :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


If Russ shot as many threes as Wemby I would blast him big time. :lol:

Except Wemby can shoot. :crazy:

People have bad games, it happens.


Live by the three, die by the three.

That's part of the package when you're taking that many.
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Re: Wembanyama. I'm concerned 

Post#1927 » by RRR3 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 4:08 am

HotRocks34 wrote:
RRR3 wrote:
HotRocks34 wrote:
If Russ shot as many threes as Wemby I would blast him big time. :lol:

Except Wemby can shoot. :crazy:

People have bad games, it happens.


Live by the three, die by the three.

That's part of the package when you're taking that many.

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Post#1928 » by tsherkin » Sun Jan 5, 2025 1:03 pm

ijspeelman wrote:Its probs popped up earlier, but these two Nuggets games have shown why he's bombing away. Nuggets have to respect him and their coverages are getting blown when he pops bc two have gone to him leaving a man wide open in the lane. Its old Curry stuff. Obviously, he isn't at Curry-level gravity from behind the arc and a team should have a better defensive plan to not allow that to happen multiple times, buuut it just shows what it unlocks if players cannot leave him out there


Like I said, there's utility to him shooting SOME from 3, just not THAT much. At like 5 3PA/g (unless he happens to be hot on a given night), he looks a lot better.
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Post#1929 » by hardenASG13 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 1:20 pm

HotRocks34 wrote:
RRR3 wrote:
HotRocks34 wrote:
If Russ shot as many threes as Wemby I would blast him big time. :lol:

Except Wemby can shoot. :crazy:

People have bad games, it happens.


Live by the three, die by the three.

That's part of the package when you're taking that many.


Did you see what happened when he tried to drive or post up?
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Post#1930 » by UglyBugBall » Sun Jan 5, 2025 1:55 pm

RRR3 wrote:
HotRocks34 wrote:
RRR3 wrote:A Westbrick fan trying to talk **** about efficiency :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


If Russ shot as many threes as Wemby I would blast him big time. :lol:

Except Wemby can shoot. :crazy:

People have bad games, it happens.


Yeah he 'can' shoot. Problem is he sucks at it.
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Post#1931 » by Rust_Cohle » Sun Jan 5, 2025 2:14 pm

He was settling for too many 3’s due to fatigue. He only took 6 the first Denver game in the win. He’ll work on his conditioning. Odd to criticize someone with 20/20 game but wemby was not himself in the fourth and OT. Not a great game from him. It happens.
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Post#1932 » by tsherkin » Sun Jan 5, 2025 2:19 pm

UglyBugBall wrote:
RRR3 wrote:
HotRocks34 wrote:
If Russ shot as many threes as Wemby I would blast him big time. :lol:

Except Wemby can shoot. :crazy:

People have bad games, it happens.


Yeah he 'can' shoot. Problem is he sucks at it.


He doesn't suck at it. He's maintaining roughly league-average 3P% on that volume and he's shooting nearly 88% from the foul line. It's very clear that he CAN shoot. The problem is just specific volume of 3s.
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Post#1933 » by LeBronSpaghetti » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:38 pm

They lost last night because of his three point shooting
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Post#1934 » by LeBronSpaghetti » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:40 pm

tsherkin wrote:
UglyBugBall wrote:
RRR3 wrote:Except Wemby can shoot. :crazy:

People have bad games, it happens.


Yeah he 'can' shoot. Problem is he sucks at it.


He doesn't suck at it. He's maintaining roughly league-average 3P% on that volume and he's shooting nearly 88% from the foul line. It's very clear that he CAN shoot. The problem is just specific volume of 3s.

If you shoot 60% on 2s and 88% from the line, why on earth are you shooting eleven 3s per game at 35%? It is idiotic basketball and it’s just math. It’s not debatable.
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Post#1935 » by Bergmaniac » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:45 pm

LeBronSpaghetti wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
UglyBugBall wrote:
Yeah he 'can' shoot. Problem is he sucks at it.


He doesn't suck at it. He's maintaining roughly league-average 3P% on that volume and he's shooting nearly 88% from the foul line. It's very clear that he CAN shoot. The problem is just specific volume of 3s.

If you shoot 60% on 2s and 88% from the line, why on earth are you shooting eleven 3s per game at 35%? It is idiotic basketball and it’s just math. It’s not debatable.

Because you can't just get high percentage 2s everytime you want. Wemby is automatic at the rim (82.4 FG%), as can be expected for a guy his height, but on other two pointers he is shooting below 50% so he's better off taking 3s whuich he makes at 35% clip, if we talking purely about simplistic math.
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Post#1936 » by tsherkin » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:45 pm

LeBronSpaghetti wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
UglyBugBall wrote:
Yeah he 'can' shoot. Problem is he sucks at it.


He doesn't suck at it. He's maintaining roughly league-average 3P% on that volume and he's shooting nearly 88% from the foul line. It's very clear that he CAN shoot. The problem is just specific volume of 3s.

If you shoot 60% on 2s and 88% from the line, why on earth are you shooting eleven 3s per game at 35%? It is idiotic basketball and it’s just math. It’s not debatable.


That isn't the same thing. Ugly said he "sucks at it," which is objectively inaccurate.

You and I agree that he's shooting the 3 too much, but that's not the same line of discussion ;)
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Post#1937 » by LeBronSpaghetti » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:49 pm

Bergmaniac wrote:
LeBronSpaghetti wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
He doesn't suck at it. He's maintaining roughly league-average 3P% on that volume and he's shooting nearly 88% from the foul line. It's very clear that he CAN shoot. The problem is just specific volume of 3s.

If you shoot 60% on 2s and 88% from the line, why on earth are you shooting eleven 3s per game at 35%? It is idiotic basketball and it’s just math. It’s not debatable.

Because you can't just get high percentage 2s everytime you want. Wemby is automatic at the rim (82.4 FG%), as can be expected for a guy his height, but on other two pointers he is shooting below 50% so he's better off taking 3s whuich he makes at 35% clip, if we talking purely about simplistic math.

With his size and skillset he should have no problem generating very high percentage 2 point shots nearly every possession. Heck even just having CP3 with Wemby as a lob threat should be near automatic offense.

If Wemby practiced his baby hook as much as he practiced his three point shot he’d be unstoppable.
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Post#1938 » by tsherkin » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:56 pm

LeBronSpaghetti wrote:If Wemby practiced his baby hook as much as he practiced his three point shot he’d be unstoppable.


Eh. Baby hooks require low-post position, which isn't really what you want to be doing with Wemby. And aren't startlingly efficient shots anyway.

Bergmaniac wrote:Because you can't just get high percentage 2s everytime you want. Wemby is automatic at the rim (82.4 FG%), as can be expected for a guy his height, but on other two pointers he is shooting below 50% so he's better off taking 3s whuich he makes at 35% clip, if we talking purely about simplistic math.


Taking some 3s isn't a bad idea. Even a decent volume, like 4-6 of them. There are a bunch of reasons why that isn't a bad idea. But 9+ 3s per game is too much.
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Post#1939 » by hardenASG13 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 4:02 pm

LeBronSpaghetti wrote:
Bergmaniac wrote:
LeBronSpaghetti wrote:If you shoot 60% on 2s and 88% from the line, why on earth are you shooting eleven 3s per game at 35%? It is idiotic basketball and it’s just math. It’s not debatable.

Because you can't just get high percentage 2s everytime you want. Wemby is automatic at the rim (82.4 FG%), as can be expected for a guy his height, but on other two pointers he is shooting below 50% so he's better off taking 3s whuich he makes at 35% clip, if we talking purely about simplistic math.

With his size and skillset he should have no problem generating very high percentage 2 point shots nearly every possession. Heck even just having CP3 with Wemby as a lob threat should be near automatic offense.

If Wemby practiced his baby hook as much as he practiced his three point shot he’d be unstoppable.


Yeah but did you watch the game? He does have a problem generating high percentage 2 point fgs. It's a real struggle for him at this point. He cant post up or drive on smaller, quick guys like Westbrook. CP3 rarely hits Wemby for lobs, I agree it should be near automatic offense, but the Spurs haven't put that in place around him yet. There are and have been multiple opportunities each game where they miss him for the easy lobs and dumpoffs. That stuff will come with the right teammates and him adding strength, which is scary considering the numbers he's putting up, and his team results (him and Vassell are the only 2 starting caliber players they have at the moment, and they're in the playoff mix).
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Re: Wembanyama. I'm concerned 

Post#1940 » by UglyBugBall » Sun Jan 5, 2025 4:11 pm

tsherkin wrote:
UglyBugBall wrote:
RRR3 wrote:Except Wemby can shoot. :crazy:

People have bad games, it happens.


Yeah he 'can' shoot. Problem is he sucks at it.


He doesn't suck at it. He's maintaining roughly league-average 3P% on that volume and he's shooting nearly 88% from the foul line. It's very clear that he CAN shoot. The problem is just specific volume of 3s.


He can shoot free throws, but not 3s. If you remove his games where he shot over 40 percent, his shooting percentage is well under 28 percent which is abysmal.

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