Game 34: Wolves vs Pistons 6:00 PM CT

[Loaf_of_bread]

There aren't enough adjectives in the dictionary to describe how awful Rudy Gobert is offensively and how incredibly stupid it is to let him touch the ball this many times in the first 6 minutes.

In the other thread, when I showed you the data on how good Gobert has been historically on lobs, you complained about the lack of scale. And when the team scales up this game, you complain about too many passing it to him too much?

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TRY TO FORCE SCALING UP HIS PRODUCTION.
An unmitigated disaster of turnovers and the complete destruction of offensive flow.

There is a REASON Rudy Gobert can only be efficient taking 8 shots or less per game.
HIS OFFENSIVE EFFICIENCY DOES NOT SCALE because he has ZERO offensive talent.
What part do you not understand?

We've been watching this same movie for 2 1/2 years now every time the team tries to force his usage up.

I down 1 this post.

[younggunsmn]

I did watch the game. Go back and find a single drive and kick, in the half court, (gonna exclude transition and broken floor,) literally 1. Send me the time code and I will eat all the crow you want. Ant hit his 3s and was successful on the drive. He get off the ball in traps a few times, but did nothing to create for any of his teammates. You wonder why they played so badly, they don’t have Ant or any PG creating for them.

Did you watch the first 5 minutes when Rudy had 3 turnovers a blown layup and 2 missed free throws?
And maybe worst game I have ever seen from Mike.

Ant had a whole bunch of hockey assists and I thought this was one of his better games of the season dealing with the double teams, until the last 3-4 minutes where he got greedy again and playing the whole 2nd half started getting to him.
It's not where he should be at, but I thought there was some progress, especially when he was playing with Naz and Julius.
Unfortunately that lineup couldn't get any stops.

Can't believe anyone would single out Ant for this clown show of a game when his teammates had 52 points combined and he had 53 on 31 FGA.

It isn’t about singling anyone out. It’s about pointing out that this team lacks creators, and when Ant publicly declares he doesn’t like creating, this **** happens.

Go back and watch play after play where 2 men stand in the corners and never move. It doesn’t matter who is in the game, we always play 5 on 3 with the guys guarding the corners playing build a wall against the drive. This offense isn’t just bad, it is ****ing predictable. We hit 16 3s, we shot fine from outside, but to start the game we were down 28 to 2 in paint points. This offense is BROKEN. To blame Rudy for it when he only played 29:32 and had 6 shot attempts at -2 is not the correct answer. Mike at -18 and Julius at -20 is the start of the conversation. Finch has to go, we need to start running an offense, and yes Rudy does need to be involved in it. 2 games ago it was said we are winning most games when Rudy takes 8 or more shots, and losing most when he takes 7 or fewer. New flash he was 3/6. Although he does need to rebound the ****ing ball.

Like it or not that's the offense every team plays in 2024. stick guys in the corners to space the floor and run action in the middle.
Finch's empty corner sets with Mike and Rudy are a rare exception.

Rudy shot attempt metrics are garbage. He just needs to be a lot better.
The coaches, players, and especially Rudy need to just forget about how much usage he needs/deserves.

What matters is, Is it a good play or not? is passing him the ball at this moment going to result in success or failure?
When he fumbles away so many good opportunities it changes the calculations on that metric in the eyes of his teammates.

The open corner sets are better for him, but they also create spacing issues since you are overloading the other side of the floor.
Maybe that helps Ant as it takes a help defender out of the open side corner, but when you run those you are also 100% going to have the lane full of help defenders.

[winforlose]

Did you watch the first 5 minutes when Rudy had 3 turnovers a blown layup and 2 missed free throws?
And maybe worst game I have ever seen from Mike.

Ant had a whole bunch of hockey assists and I thought this was one of his better games of the season dealing with the double teams, until the last 3-4 minutes where he got greedy again and playing the whole 2nd half started getting to him.
It's not where he should be at, but I thought there was some progress, especially when he was playing with Naz and Julius.
Unfortunately that lineup couldn't get any stops.

Can't believe anyone would single out Ant for this clown show of a game when his teammates had 52 points combined and he had 53 on 31 FGA.

It isn’t about singling anyone out. It’s about pointing out that this team lacks creators, and when Ant publicly declares he doesn’t like creating, this **** happens.

Go back and watch play after play where 2 men stand in the corners and never move. It doesn’t matter who is in the game, we always play 5 on 3 with the guys guarding the corners playing build a wall against the drive. This offense isn’t just bad, it is ****ing predictable. We hit 16 3s, we shot fine from outside, but to start the game we were down 28 to 2 in paint points. This offense is BROKEN. To blame Rudy for it when he only played 29:32 and had 6 shot attempts at -2 is not the correct answer. Mike at -18 and Julius at -20 is the start of the conversation. Finch has to go, we need to start running an offense, and yes Rudy does need to be involved in it. 2 games ago it was said we are winning most games when Rudy takes 8 or more shots, and losing most when he takes 7 or fewer. New flash he was 3/6. Although he does need to rebound the ****ing ball.

Like it or not that's the offense every team plays in 2024. stick guys in the corners to space the floor and run action in the middle.
Finch's empty corner sets with Mike and Rudy are a rare exception.

Rudy shot attempt metrics are garbage. He just needs to be a lot better.
The coaches, players, and especially Rudy need to just forget about how much usage he needs/deserves.

What matters is, Is it a good play or not? is passing him the ball at this moment going to result in success or failure?
When he fumbles away so many good opportunities it changes the calculations on that metric in the eyes of his teammates.

The open corner sets are better for him, but they also create spacing issues since you are overloading the other side of the floor.
Maybe that helps Ant as it takes a help defender out of the open side corner, but when you run those you are also 100% going to have the lane full of help defenders.

So your point is not running action to or through Rudy will make the team better? Is it also your position that we don’t care if Rudy engages on the defensive end? I cannot stress this (enough even though you won’t talk about it,) Rudy was a -2 in a double digit loss. What does that tell you? Randle was -20, Conley was -18, and Rudy was -2. I will grant you Rudy had a bad game with 3 turnover, even though Ant had 6, or that Rudy scored 6 points on 6 shots even though Conley had 0 on 4 or NAW had 7 on 8 shots. You cannot blame this loss on Rudy or the first 6 minutes. We didn’t fall apart until the 2nd quarter. I don’t mind having a rational discussion about the role of Rudy. But you cannot have that by ignoring screen assists, ignoring the lack of PNR, and ignoring that Rudy had no lob dunks because no one threw any ****ing lobs to him.

P.S, OKC and Boston don’t park guys in the corner and tell them not to move. I know cause I just them play. The Pistons used off ball screens and multiple screens tonight, I know because I watched them play. What we are doing is far from normal and far from good basketball.

[TimberKat]

Maybe: with Towns we could run ISO for Ant but there is still enough talent (Towns as scorer) to run structure stuff half the time. Without Towns, KA, Conley declining, Randle an ISO player, and Ant not fitting in structure, we just can't run much team ball.

Basically if Ant will be Ant, then he is too much of a duplication as Randle.

[shrink]

Surprised Tristen Newton was already on he bench for this game.

[Norseman79]

Man we need two point guards and a legit back up 5, bad.

[shrink]

Looking at the box score, Rudy and Jaden led the team in +/- at -2. Lately, team can’t/won’t defend without them.

Ant -3.

Surprised to see our bench crew get beat, -7, -10, -8. That doesn’t happen often

Mike was -18, Randle -20. Yikes.

[winforlose]

Looking at the box score, Rudy and Jaden led the team in +/- at -2. Lately, team can’t/won’t defend without them.

Ant -3.

Surprised to see our bench crew get beat, -7, -10, -8. That doesn’t happen often

Mike was -18, Randle -20. Yikes.

Bench crew ran with Randle and Mike tonight (no Dilly (ankle,) and no Minott (illness.) With Mike and Randle it didn’t matter who else was out there, we were ****ed. Especially with NAW having a miserable shooting night, (2/8 with 7 points.) ) Our margin for error is so small with this roster construction. A bad Rudy game forces more Randle, and a bad Randle game usually means we are in trouble.

[younggunsmn]

It isn’t about singling anyone out. It’s about pointing out that this team lacks creators, and when Ant publicly declares he doesn’t like creating, this **** happens.

Go back and watch play after play where 2 men stand in the corners and never move. It doesn’t matter who is in the game, we always play 5 on 3 with the guys guarding the corners playing build a wall against the drive. This offense isn’t just bad, it is ****ing predictable. We hit 16 3s, we shot fine from outside, but to start the game we were down 28 to 2 in paint points. This offense is BROKEN. To blame Rudy for it when he only played 29:32 and had 6 shot attempts at -2 is not the correct answer. Mike at -18 and Julius at -20 is the start of the conversation. Finch has to go, we need to start running an offense, and yes Rudy does need to be involved in it. 2 games ago it was said we are winning most games when Rudy takes 8 or more shots, and losing most when he takes 7 or fewer. New flash he was 3/6. Although he does need to rebound the ****ing ball.

Like it or not that's the offense every team plays in 2024. stick guys in the corners to space the floor and run action in the middle.
Finch's empty corner sets with Mike and Rudy are a rare exception.

Rudy shot attempt metrics are garbage. He just needs to be a lot better.
The coaches, players, and especially Rudy need to just forget about how much usage he needs/deserves.

What matters is, Is it a good play or not? is passing him the ball at this moment going to result in success or failure?
When he fumbles away so many good opportunities it changes the calculations on that metric in the eyes of his teammates.

The open corner sets are better for him, but they also create spacing issues since you are overloading the other side of the floor.
Maybe that helps Ant as it takes a help defender out of the open side corner, but when you run those you are also 100% going to have the lane full of help defenders.

So your point is not running action to or through Rudy will make the team better? Is it also your position that we don’t care if Rudy engages on the defensive end? I cannot stress this (enough even though you won’t talk about it,) Tudy was a -2 in a double digit loss. What does that tell you? Randle was -20, Conley was -18, and Rudy was -2. I will grant you Rudy had a bad game with 3 turnover, even though Ant had 6, or that Rudy scored 6 points on 6 shots even though Conley had 0 on 4 or NAW had 7 on 8 shots. You cannot blame this loss on Rudy or the first 6 minutes. We didn’t fall apart until the 2nd quarter. I don’t mind having a rational discussion about the role of Rudy. But you cannot have that by ignoring screen assists, ignoring the lack of PNR, and ignoring that Rudy had no lob dunks because no one threw any ****ing lobs to him.

P.S, OKC and Boston don’t park guys in the corner and tell them not to move. I know cause I just them play. The Pistons used off ball screens and multiple screens tonight, I know because I watched them play. What we are doing is far from normal and far from good basketball.

Those 6 points all came in garbage time late in the 4th, when the game was already decided.
Rudy had zero points on 7 possessions in the first 3 quarters. 3 missed FGs, 2 missed FTs, and 3 turnovers.

Rudy got his butt kicked by Jalen Duren.

IMO Rudy shouldn't be operating in the middle of the floor in the halfcourt, he should be operating out of the weakside dunker spot and setting curl and flare screens from that spot.
Finch has him up high a lot and the only reliable thing we get out of that is off the dribble 3's for Ant.
It's ok to get him involved in some open side pick and rolls, but he can do that from the dunker spot.
You can run a lot of actions off that open side set that keeps the other team from loading up both of the slot gaps the way teams are doing against Ant.

He needs to get comfortable at that spot the way other teams with dynamic guards use their non-shooting bigs, like Dallas does with Gafford.
It's great for him to come up and set screens for transition 3's, but when teams have their defenses set it's not a great play to have him hanging out so high up the floor and then diving back into a packed lane.

IMHO it's been a mistake trying to run Finch's full offense using Rudy for things you need a more skilled big for.
It's hurting both the team and Rudy.
Points from Rudy Gobert should be like found money.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

Don’t think Rudy and Mike has such a bad game. They just don’t put any effort other than the minimum tonight…probably a message send to Finch… I told several times here, Rudy is useful and full of energy when his teammates go full in défense. He will never be good offensively. Mike play all his career grin amd grind style where défense come first and offense was based on people moving well to reach position. The exact opposite we play right now.


We should trade him and Rudy if we play this way. Even Dlo will be more useful at that stage…

[winforlose]

Like it or not that's the offense every team plays in 2024. stick guys in the corners to space the floor and run action in the middle.
Finch's empty corner sets with Mike and Rudy are a rare exception.

Rudy shot attempt metrics are garbage. He just needs to be a lot better.
The coaches, players, and especially Rudy need to just forget about how much usage he needs/deserves.

What matters is, Is it a good play or not? is passing him the ball at this moment going to result in success or failure?
When he fumbles away so many good opportunities it changes the calculations on that metric in the eyes of his teammates.

The open corner sets are better for him, but they also create spacing issues since you are overloading the other side of the floor.
Maybe that helps Ant as it takes a help defender out of the open side corner, but when you run those you are also 100% going to have the lane full of help defenders.

So your point is not running action to or through Rudy will make the team better? Is it also your position that we don’t care if Rudy engages on the defensive end? I cannot stress this (enough even though you won’t talk about it,) Tudy was a -2 in a double digit loss. What does that tell you? Randle was -20, Conley was -18, and Rudy was -2. I will grant you Rudy had a bad game with 3 turnover, even though Ant had 6, or that Rudy scored 6 points on 6 shots even though Conley had 0 on 4 or NAW had 7 on 8 shots. You cannot blame this loss on Rudy or the first 6 minutes. We didn’t fall apart until the 2nd quarter. I don’t mind having a rational discussion about the role of Rudy. But you cannot have that by ignoring screen assists, ignoring the lack of PNR, and ignoring that Rudy had no lob dunks because no one threw any ****ing lobs to him.

P.S, OKC and Boston don’t park guys in the corner and tell them not to move. I know cause I just them play. The Pistons used off ball screens and multiple screens tonight, I know because I watched them play. What we are doing is far from normal and far from good basketball.

Those 6 points all came in garbage time late in the 4th, when the game was already decided.
Rudy had zero points on 7 possessions in the first 3 quarters. 3 missed FGs, 2 missed FTs, and 3 turnovers.

Rudy got his butt kicked by Jalen Duren.

IMO Rudy shouldn't be operating in the middle of the floor in the halfcourt, he should be operating out of the weakside dunker spot and setting curl and flare screens from that spot.
Finch has him up high a lot and the only reliable thing we get out of that is off the dribble 3's for Ant.
It's ok to get him involved in some open side pick and rolls, but he can do that from the dunker spot.
You can run a lot of actions off that open side set that keeps the other team from loading up both of the slot gaps the way teams are doing against Ant.

He needs to get comfortable at that spot the way other teams with dynamic guards use their non-shooting bigs, like Dallas does with Lively and Gafford.
It's great for him to come up and set screens for transition 3's, but when teams have their defenses set it's not a great play to have him hanging out so high up the floor and then diving back into a packed lane.

IMHO it's been a mistake trying to run Finch's full offense using Rudy for things you need a more skilled big for.

One possession Rudy lost was a defensive rebound where Rudy was hit in the face no whistle and the ball went to Pistons. Another was him drawing a foul on Harris and just missing the free throws. If Ant misses two free throws is that a wasted possession? How about at 7:17 when he screen assists Ant for a 3. First possession Mike throws a bounce pass to Rudy forces him to drive on the big and Rudy gets fouled no whistle, 11:42. Go back and rewatch and you will see Rudy did spend some time in the dunker in the first 6 as well. Rudy is like V8, a player with specific skills that needs to be used properly. You and I might disagree on what that looks like, but we both know it isn’t what Finch and the backcourt have been doing.

[thinktank]

[Rudy and Randle] + Ant = A three-eyed fish.

Nobody wants that.

Ant’s career as a Wolf will only become interesting again if / when both Randle and Gobert are gone.

Ant deserves a C with hands and touch. Yes, Gobert is great on D and setting screens. But Rudy can’t freaking roll and catch a lob or use any kind of post most whatsoever—even when he’s got the ball a foot from the rim. It’s painful to watch. I have to say I’m ready for the Rudy and Randle eras to end already.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

People forget fast the reason why we make WCF last year… team spirit, KAT being an unselfish player, défense identity the team has lot it all… players play individually, looking at their stats and not helping each others. Mark my words, this team has lost his soul and will implode soon. Rudy, Mike attitude tonight was eloquent. If Rudy come and give only 50% as tonight , we will be on the lottery pretty soon. And I don’t think it will change unless major change are done.


TC is an idiot if he extend Rudy and let the team playing this way. Rudy when he play with no heart like tonight is far from 30 millions value… we can complain about Rudy lack of skills on offense which is totally legit. But he never lie to people and make it clear that défense is his priority. You not get 4DPOY if it’s not.

I can understand team decide to go in a different way but in this case , trade him and Mike for a C who can shoot. And time will tell if this is the good direction.

My feeling is that actually , font office is only working about saving money but is totally disinterested in the way the team play. Let’s see this month if they make some moves. Their decision will clearly show the direction they want to take . If the strategy is only to go under the aprons, then be ready for years or mediocrity..

[winforlose]

People forget fast the reason why we make WCF last year… team spirit, KAT being an unselfish player, défense identity the team has lot it all… players play individually, looking at their stats and not helping each others. Mark my words, this team has lost his soul and will implode soon. Rudy, Mike attitude tonight was eloquent. If Rudy come and give only 50% as tonight , we will be on the lottery pretty soon. And I don’t think it will change unless major change are done.


TC is an idiot if he extend Rudy and let the team playing this way. Rudy when he play with no heart like tonight is far from 30 millions value… we can complain about Rudy lack of skills on offense which is totally legit. But he never lie to people and make it clear that défense is his priority. You not get 4DPOY if it’s not.

I can understand team decide to go in a different way but in this case , trade him and Mike for a C who can shoot. And time will tell if this is the good direction.

My feeling is that actually , font office is only working about saving money but is totally disinterested in the way the team play. Let’s see this month if they make some moves. Their decision will clearly show the direction they want to take . If the strategy is only to go under the aprons, then be ready for years or mediocrity..

This is an 82 game season and Rudy won’t be good or give his all in every game. But, tonight wasn’t about Rudy. Rudy was actually one of the more efficient Wolves on 3 of 6 shooting for 6 points. 2 of his 3 turnovers were fouls that were not called. Tonight was about Mike. We cannot get consistent PG play and that is what doomed the Suns last year. Trading Dlo for Mike trapped us in a bad situation. We needed Dlo’s salary slot to get the PGOF. Instead we got an aging Mike and he played beautifully last year. But we needed to expect a decline this year. It was common sense. People pushed back again and again this offseason when I said you cannot have a 37 year old starting PG if his only backup is a 19 year old rookie. This is the consequence. We thought DDV might be able to run the Point, but turns out that doesn’t work either. We lack handlers who can handle pressure. We lack high BBIQ floor generals. We lack leadership. That is why we lose the turnover battle most nights, and that is why we don’t consistently win.

[shrink]

Edwards 53, was a big jump in scoring. No other Wolf had even scored in the 40’s. Ant scored 37 twice.

I thought this was a little interesting

Four different Wolves have had games where they lead the team in points.
Six have led the team in rebounds.
Eight have led the team in assists.

[winforlose]

Edwards 53, was a big jump in scoring. No other Wolf had even scored in the 40’s. Ant scored 37 twice.

I thought this was a little interesting

Four different Wolves have had games where they lead the team in points.
Six have led the team in rebounds.
Eight have led the team in assists.

Ant took 31 shot attempts in this game and 16 in the last one. That is the interesting number. What changed? I don’t know how to track usage rates per game, but I would love to know the difference in that as well. Ant has always had a bit of Standrew in him. He turns it on for the playoffs, and when he feels the need to go off. But almost doubling your shot attempts right after saying you’re not shooting enough was interesting. The consequence of that is other guys shoot less as well.

One more interesting stat. Ant played 44:27 and almost everyone on the team played worse than they normally do. Some of this is coincidence, some this is not. By comparison the prior game Ant played 36:13 and the DNA bench mob played much better.

[Dalvin]

Well, if there's any game I'm ok losing with, it's this game. Helps with the pick DET owes us

[FrenchMinnyFan]

People forget fast the reason why we make WCF last year… team spirit, KAT being an unselfish player, défense identity the team has lot it all… players play individually, looking at their stats and not helping each others. Mark my words, this team has lost his soul and will implode soon. Rudy, Mike attitude tonight was eloquent. If Rudy come and give only 50% as tonight , we will be on the lottery pretty soon. And I don’t think it will change unless major change are done.


TC is an idiot if he extend Rudy and let the team playing this way. Rudy when he play with no heart like tonight is far from 30 millions value… we can complain about Rudy lack of skills on offense which is totally legit. But he never lie to people and make it clear that défense is his priority. You not get 4DPOY if it’s not.

I can understand team decide to go in a different way but in this case , trade him and Mike for a C who can shoot. And time will tell if this is the good direction.

My feeling is that actually , font office is only working about saving money but is totally disinterested in the way the team play. Let’s see this month if they make some moves. Their decision will clearly show the direction they want to take . If the strategy is only to go under the aprons, then be ready for years or mediocrity..

This is an 82 game season and Rudy won’t be good or give his all in every game. But, tonight wasn’t about Rudy. Rudy was actually one of the more efficient Wolves on 3 of 6 shooting for 6 points. 2 of his 3 turnovers were fouls that were not called. Tonight was about Mike. We cannot get consistent PG play and that is what doomed the Suns last year. Trading Dlo for Mike trapped us in a bad situation. We needed Dlo’s salary slot to get the PGOF. Instead we got an aging Mike and he played beautifully last year. But we needed to expect a decline this year. It was common sense. People pushed back again and again this offseason when I said you cannot have a 37 year old starting PG if his only backup is a 19 year old rookie. This is the consequence. We thought DDV might be able to run the Point, but turns out that doesn’t work either. We lack handlers who can handle pressure. We lack high BBIQ floor generals. We lack leadership. That is why we lose the turnover battle most nights, and that is why we don’t consistently win.

Agree and disagree. Rudy did not play well tonight, did not fight in defense and did not rebound well. More to worry, he seems not fighting much on the board.
Agree on the fact relying on 37 old PG is risky. We need another PG who can score, play decent defense and limit Mike min.
Mike did not play well the way we play but he is not the reason we lost TO battle night after night. ANT and Randle are...

[FrenchMinnyFan]

Kind of funny to see ANT play 44 min and Randle 36 and we have 0 opportunities to win this game....

[winforlose]

People forget fast the reason why we make WCF last year… team spirit, KAT being an unselfish player, défense identity the team has lot it all… players play individually, looking at their stats and not helping each others. Mark my words, this team has lost his soul and will implode soon. Rudy, Mike attitude tonight was eloquent. If Rudy come and give only 50% as tonight , we will be on the lottery pretty soon. And I don’t think it will change unless major change are done.


TC is an idiot if he extend Rudy and let the team playing this way. Rudy when he play with no heart like tonight is far from 30 millions value… we can complain about Rudy lack of skills on offense which is totally legit. But he never lie to people and make it clear that défense is his priority. You not get 4DPOY if it’s not.

I can understand team decide to go in a different way but in this case , trade him and Mike for a C who can shoot. And time will tell if this is the good direction.

My feeling is that actually , font office is only working about saving money but is totally disinterested in the way the team play. Let’s see this month if they make some moves. Their decision will clearly show the direction they want to take . If the strategy is only to go under the aprons, then be ready for years or mediocrity..

This is an 82 game season and Rudy won’t be good or give his all in every game. But, tonight wasn’t about Rudy. Rudy was actually one of the more efficient Wolves on 3 of 6 shooting for 6 points. 2 of his 3 turnovers were fouls that were not called. Tonight was about Mike. We cannot get consistent PG play and that is what doomed the Suns last year. Trading Dlo for Mike trapped us in a bad situation. We needed Dlo’s salary slot to get the PGOF. Instead we got an aging Mike and he played beautifully last year. But we needed to expect a decline this year. It was common sense. People pushed back again and again this offseason when I said you cannot have a 37 year old starting PG if his only backup is a 19 year old rookie. This is the consequence. We thought DDV might be able to run the Point, but turns out that doesn’t work either. We lack handlers who can handle pressure. We lack high BBIQ floor generals. We lack leadership. That is why we lose the turnover battle most nights, and that is why we don’t consistently win.

Agree and disagree. Rudy did not play well tonight, did not fight in defense and did not rebound well. More to worry, he seems not fighting much on the board.
Agree on the fact relying on 37 old PG is risky. We need another PG who can score, play decent defense and limit Mike min.
Mike did not play well the way we play but he is not the reason we lost TO battle night after night. ANT and Randle are...

1. If you have a strong scoring PG on ball then you don’t need to run the offense through Randle and Ant as much. When you don’t, those two feel a ton of pressure to do something (often drive into traffic) and that causes the turnovers. Fix the cause, you change the effect.

2. Rudy looked disinterested. I think Ant’s comments after the Thursday game were very deflating for the whole team. Ant came out and basically said he doesn’t care about winning or leading. All he wants is flashy numbers. He got torched in the media for it, but I imagine his guys are even madder about it. Add to that he shot 31 times and didn’t pass much, and even though he got the flashy number, I don’t expect he made any progress with the guys. This situation is in a bad place, and it’s gonna take time and someone stepping up as a leader to fix. Normally that would be Finch, but I think he proved he cannot lead either.