2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 3

[SerialChiller]

Jimmy is upset that he no longer is the focal point of our offense, and that we no longer catered our playbook to him….

Well then, what does he think is going to happen when he gets traded to another team, who will likely be looking for that “missing piece” but already has their go to players. His days of being the man on a team, or a player that teams look at as a main building block or someone to cater to are over. He is officially a high level vet these days, but wants to continue to get that star treatment, have a playbook that caters to him, and wants to make money as if he were still a superstar. Unfortunately, we last saw that guy two years ago…

He will have stints of greatness, I am sure, just like Wade did his last two years here, that still does not mean he is worth over 50 million and to have a whole team cater to him.

I don't think the focal point of the offense thing or "losing his joy" is anything more than just an excuse. He's always said he didn't care about putting up stats just winning and often coasts and sits back during the season anyways. Bottom line is I think he just cares about the money and if he'd been given the extension he wanted nothing is ever said like that lol.

[contract]

Jimmy is upset that he no longer is the focal point of our offense, and that we no longer catered our playbook to him….

Well then, what does he think is going to happen when he gets traded to another team, who will likely be looking for that “missing piece” but already has their go to players. His days of being the man on a team, or a player that teams look at as a main building block or someone to cater to are over. He is officially a high level vet these days, but wants to continue to get that star treatment, have a playbook that caters to him, and wants to make money as if he were still a superstar. Unfortunately, we last saw that guy two years ago…

He will have stints of greatness, I am sure, just like Wade did his last two years here, that still does not mean he is worth over 50 million and to have a whole team cater to him.

I don't think the focal point of the offense thing or "losing his joy" is anything more than just an excuse. He's always said he didn't care about putting up stats just winning and often coasts and sits back during the season anyways. Bottom line is I think he just cares about the money and if he'd been given the extension he wanted nothing is ever said like that lol.

I'm sure that was true as long as it didn't affect his pay. But stats = money.

[DayofMourning]

We are trying to incorporate Bam more offensively, but hes just not that guy. His ball handling under pressure is pretty bad. To be able to operate at a high level, you got to have that ball on a string. The awkward turnovers under any type of pressure arent goinng to improve at this point.

Now, imagine Butler seeing that and having the ball taken out of his hands for that result. I think his ego cant handle watching inefficient plays in others when hes proven he can handle that load well.

We are going to tank/treadmill until guys are being played in their best roles. Unfortunately, we dont have that alpha scorer who eases others burdens. Its still a stars league.

[MiamiLoyal926]

Jimmy is upset that he no longer is the focal point of our offense, and that we no longer catered our playbook to him….

Well then, what does he think is going to happen when he gets traded to another team, who will likely be looking for that “missing piece” but already has their go to players. His days of being the man on a team, or a player that teams look at as a main building block or someone to cater to are over. He is officially a high level vet these days, but wants to continue to get that star treatment, have a playbook that caters to him, and wants to make money as if he were still a superstar. Unfortunately, we last saw that guy two years ago…

He will have stints of greatness, I am sure, just like Wade did his last two years here, that still does not mean he is worth over 50 million and to have a whole team cater to him.

I don't think the focal point of the offense thing or "losing his joy" is anything more than just an excuse. He's always said he didn't care about putting up stats just winning and often coasts and sits back during the season anyways. Bottom line is I think he just cares about the money and if he'd been given the extension he wanted nothing is ever said like that lol.

Oh, for sure. I agree! It’s all about the money, and he is trying to come off as if his diva act is something deeper than that. I just do not feel Butler has come to terms with where he is in his career yet, and how teams view him today.

Pat essentially told him, this is what we think and need from you moving forward, which was no longer prioritizing him. They even tried to gauge his value a few weeks ago, essentially also showing him what other teams think of him.

At the end of the day, dude suffered a loss last year, at the same time as hitting a point in his career that usually shifts him and others like him away from center stage. He is trying to cope with it all, and in times of vulnerability, most revert to bad habits and antics. This is how he has coped in the past, and being a diva is how he is coping now. But yes, max extension would have kept the diva away from being targeted at us. All who mourn need an enemy to blame and/or fight against.

[DayofMourning]

Just watched the 4th quarter and OT of game 6 in 2013. Bosh was such a defensive beast. Multiple shots altered.

[Beenie]

We are trying to incorporate Bam more offensively, but hes just not that guy. His ball handling under pressure is pretty bad. To be able to operate at a high level, you got to have that ball on a string. The awkward turnovers under any type of pressure arent goinng to improve at this point.

Now, imagine Butler seeing that and having the ball taken out of his hands for that result. I think his ego cant handle watching inefficient plays in others when hes proven he can handle that load well.

We are going to tank/treadmill until guys are being played in their best roles. Unfortunately, we dont have that alpha scorer who eases others burdens. Its still a stars league.

Bottom half is a criticism of Spo

Five reasons would regard that as blasphemy

[DayofMourning]

We are trying to incorporate Bam more offensively, but hes just not that guy. His ball handling under pressure is pretty bad. To be able to operate at a high level, you got to have that ball on a string. The awkward turnovers under any type of pressure arent goinng to improve at this point.

Now, imagine Butler seeing that and having the ball taken out of his hands for that result. I think his ego cant handle watching inefficient plays in others when hes proven he can handle that load well.

We are going to tank/treadmill until guys are being played in their best roles. Unfortunately, we dont have that alpha scorer who eases others burdens. Its still a stars league.

Bottom half is a criticism of Spo

Five reasons would regard that as blasphemy

Spo is a huge part of the problem.

Hes also a huge part of our future success. Think he needs a different POV whispering in his ear.

[SerialChiller]

We are trying to incorporate Bam more offensively, but hes just not that guy. His ball handling under pressure is pretty bad. To be able to operate at a high level, you got to have that ball on a string. The awkward turnovers under any type of pressure arent goinng to improve at this point.

Now, imagine Butler seeing that and having the ball taken out of his hands for that result. I think his ego cant handle watching inefficient plays in others when hes proven he can handle that load well.

We are going to tank/treadmill until guys are being played in their best roles. Unfortunately, we dont have that alpha scorer who eases others burdens. Its still a stars league.

Bottom half is a criticism of Spo

Five reasons would regard that as blasphemy

There's plenty to criticize with him that's for sure.

[Beenie]

We are trying to incorporate Bam more offensively, but hes just not that guy. His ball handling under pressure is pretty bad. To be able to operate at a high level, you got to have that ball on a string. The awkward turnovers under any type of pressure arent goinng to improve at this point.

Now, imagine Butler seeing that and having the ball taken out of his hands for that result. I think his ego cant handle watching inefficient plays in others when hes proven he can handle that load well.

We are going to tank/treadmill until guys are being played in their best roles. Unfortunately, we dont have that alpha scorer who eases others burdens. Its still a stars league.

Bottom half is a criticism of Spo

Five reasons would regard that as blasphemy

Spo is a huge part of the problem.

Hes also a huge part of our future success. Think he needs a different POV whispering in his ear.

Ethan thinks that this kind of talk will get you exiled from the community

[SerialChiller]

Bottom half is a criticism of Spo

Five reasons would regard that as blasphemy

Spo is a huge part of the problem.

Hes also a huge part of our future success. Think he needs a different POV whispering in his ear.

Ethan thinks that this kind of talk will get you exiled from the community

A lot of Heat fans don't take kindly to it true or not in my experience as well.

[twix2500]

Either Duncan has to play with Bam or Larsson has to play with Bam. Those are the two players that know how to play with a big and get the big the ball. Unless Spo specifically coaches up Jovic and Rozier to get Bam the ball, I do not know if both Jovic and Rozier can start.

[MettaWorldPanda]

This has the look of a team that just misses the playoffs and finishes with the 13th pick that then coughs up the 2026 and 2028 unprotected. Keep that 48 million wasted at home and don’t get any type of reinforcements and this will be the end result.

[twix2500]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

We are trying to incorporate Bam more offensively, but hes just not that guy. His ball handling under pressure is pretty bad. To be able to operate at a high level, you got to have that ball on a string. The awkward turnovers under any type of pressure arent goinng to improve at this point.

Now, imagine Butler seeing that and having the ball taken out of his hands for that result. I think his ego cant handle watching inefficient plays in others when hes proven he can handle that load well.

We are going to tank/treadmill until guys are being played in their best roles. Unfortunately, we dont have that alpha scorer who eases others burdens. Its still a stars league.

We’re not though is the thing, we have a bunch of offense only players and his shot attempts have dropped and his usage has dropped tremendously. It all started when we traded our only playmaker for Terry, we’re featuring Bam less than we ever have. He was averaging 22 prior to the Terry trade and had a 27% usage which is down to 21% post Terry trade.

[Enso]

What were gonna find out really soon, is if just having Jimmy on the roster, regardless of availability was some kind of rising tide that lifted all boats and now that he’s gone our guys will regress. Or our pieces are really solid, the guys are really who we think they are and it’s just a the drama/vacuum Jimmy has left that’s affecting everyone.

I think we all need to relax. We’re always frantic & stressed out after every loss. We’re fielding young players that are still learning & developing. Herro has just begun to play better & smarter while Bam is sh*tting his pants lol. Spo has the task of tinkering & figuring this all out esp. w/ Jimmy’s departure. Ya’ll are expecting way too much. This will be a process. Patience is key. This ain’t no big 3 era (thank god)

Yep well said we have to stop with the catastrophising and knee jerk reactions all the time.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Great, this is just going to drag on if so. Pat probably wants an all star 2 young prospects and 5 1sts and teams are probably offering salary filler

[MettaWorldPanda]

Spo was a donkey yesterday for taking Jovic out of his bench role and starting Rozier. That Rozier start had to be some type of showcase start. Unfortunately epic fail.

[batterybro42]

We are trying to incorporate Bam more offensively, but hes just not that guy. His ball handling under pressure is pretty bad. To be able to operate at a high level, you got to have that ball on a string. The awkward turnovers under any type of pressure arent goinng to improve at this point.

Now, imagine Butler seeing that and having the ball taken out of his hands for that result. I think his ego cant handle watching inefficient plays in others when hes proven he can handle that load well.

We are going to tank/treadmill until guys are being played in their best roles. Unfortunately, we dont have that alpha scorer who eases others burdens. Its still a stars league.

This is why I think Bam ultimately gets traded here. The run and dunk man thing doesn’t play well in your 30s when you have no bag. Bam has looked like a fish out of water in the new offense. Struggling to really do anything well, and looks extremely uncomfortable on offense. I’m not opposed to Miami legitimately trying to tank the rest of the season, and moving Bam over the summer.

[batterybro42]

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Great, this is just going to drag on if so. Pat probably wants an all star 2 young prospects and 5 1sts and teams are probably offering salary filler

It’s an easy fix just don’t trade him. Any serious team that Jimmy would like to sign with will have to acquire him via SNT anyways if he opts out. Miami isn’t competing this year or the next despite what they may say publicly about that. There is no rush to move Jimmy. Just keep suspending him if he wants to behave like a clown while under contract.

The WORST THING that Miami can do is take on more salary past 26 in any deal involving Jimmy. They would be better off just letting him hang out at home. If the NBA gets upset because one of their most marketable stars on one of their most marketable teams isn’t playing basketball, just remind them that this issue likely doesn’t exist if the NBA didn’t decide to selectively get involved with the Lillard situation because they didn’t want to see Miami get their way.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Great, this is just going to drag on if so. Pat probably wants an all star 2 young prospects and 5 1sts and teams are probably offering salary filler

It’s an easy fix just don’t trade him. Any serious team that Jimmy would like to sign with will have to acquire him via SNT anyways if he opts out. Miami isn’t competing this year or the next despite what they may say publicly about that. There is no rush to move Jimmy. Just keep suspending him if he wants to behave like a clown while under contract.

The WORST THING that Miami can do is take on more salary past 26 in any deal involving Jimmy. They would be better off just letting him hang out at home. If the NBA gets upset because one of their most marketable stars on one of their most marketable teams isn’t playing basketball, just remind them that this issue likely doesn’t exist if the NBA didn’t decide to selectively get involved with the Lillard situation because they didn’t want to see Miami get their way.

Any serious team is going to hard cap themselves to sign Jimmy in a S&T? He’s going to opt into his 52 million and will be in the same spot we are now.