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Thibs has a serious problem man. Genuinely miss Johnny Bryant. Dude was always up reminding him of fouls, minutes limit and offense/defense substitutions.DOT wrote:Imagine running an 8-man rotation in January when your only injury is your backup C lol
Clyde_Style wrote:Wildcat wrote:Not 10 months ago I was defending Thibs minutes allocation with such vigor. It was pretty obvious in yesterday's game most of the starters were gassed. Not trying to develop the bench during the light schedule seems like such a bonehead move on his part. If he isn't going to trust the bench against teams like Washington, he isn't going to trust the bench against better teams.
That's the key: using early season games to get the bench the NBA experience it needs. Having a handful of guys who can go for at least 10 minutes would be a life saver for this starting unit.
One of them I believe is ready to go already which is Kolek, but I'd have wanted Dadiet and Hukporti to start by getting 5-10 minutes on the floor until they get better and are ready to go 10-20 minutes when needed.
There is no excuse for saying our bench sucks if you don't use the talent you've got. Dadiet and Huk actually have talent. They just need to get their reps now.
Payne and Shamet will play if those guys don't and at this point I'd rather develop Dadiet than play either of them and Huk can take a few of Precious' minutes to get his feet wet. Precious is erratic. He has big games and then he stumbles. I don't know that Huk would be better, but he showed he has a natural grasp of the PnR and he will go hard on D and he has the size, strength and wingspan of a legit center unlike Precious.
Enzo954 wrote:What happened to Hukporti? I mean the guy was putting in some quality minutes when Thibs actually gave him some at the beginning of the season. He'll never evolve being regulated to the bench. Why does it take injuries to get these guys some playing time?
KnicksGadfly wrote:Back to back, cross country trip. Kinda already had this one penciled in as a loss.
thebuzzardman wrote:Hes_On_Fire wrote:Besart19 wrote:we had two big losses this offseason
a minor one: Donte DiVincenzo
a major one: Johnny Bryant
no Cavs player plays more than 31 mins and they are all fresh and ready to go each game against anyone
Atkinson and Bryant have been the only addition to that Cavs team with the same roster and the results are evident… props to the posters who advocated for Atkinson as our head coach
Atkinson was being groomed by D’Antoni when he was here. Guy is a real solid coach.
Because no one sh*t on D'Antoni when he was here. Not a single poster.
Huk and Sims can both play with precious as well. There are so many different lineups he can try but winning meaningless games in January means everything to Thibs.Clyde_Style wrote:Wildcat wrote:Not 10 months ago I was defending Thibs minutes allocation with such vigor. It was pretty obvious in yesterday's game most of the starters were gassed. Not trying to develop the bench during the light schedule seems like such a bonehead move on his part. If he isn't going to trust the bench against teams like Washington, he isn't going to trust the bench against better teams.
That's the key: using early season games to get the bench the NBA experience it needs. Having a handful of guys who can go for at least 10 minutes would be a life saver for this starting unit.
One of them I believe is ready to go already which is Kolek, but I'd have wanted Dadiet and Hukporti to start by getting 5-10 minutes on the floor until they get better and are ready to go 10-20 minutes when needed.
There is no excuse for saying our bench sucks if you don't use the talent you've got. Dadiet and Huk actually have talent. They just need to get their reps now.
Payne and Shamet will play if those guys don't and at this point I'd rather develop Dadiet than play either of them and Huk can take a few of Precious' minutes to get his feet wet. Precious is erratic. He has big games and then he stumbles. I don't know that Huk would be better, but he showed he has a natural grasp of the PnR and he will go hard on D and he has the size, strength and wingspan of a legit center unlike Precious.
Only for us. Other contenders allocate minutes properly and win those games. See the Cavs and OKC. OKC beat us on the 2nd night of a b2b, 3rd game in 5 nights, 5th game in 7 nights.FrozenEnvelope wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:Back to back, cross country trip. Kinda already had this one penciled in as a loss.
Back to back on the road is a loss 90% of the time.
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NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?
so many people are going to eat their words about randle
GEOLINK wrote:"Our bench stinks, our bench stinks."
Remember last year when Hartenstein & Deuce (I'm sure there's one more player I'm forgetting) weren't seeing minutes until the injuries piled up.
Kolek has impressed me with the few times I've seen him on the floor. He only gets 2 minutes? Play the rest of the bench, Thibs!
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?
so many people are going to eat their words about randle
JayTWill wrote:Thibs handling of the rotation could obviously improve and the bench definitely needs some upgrades but I still don't understand some of the thinking that occurred in the off-season as far as the roster construction. Why did a team built around a small point guard in Brunson backed up by another small guard in McBride draft a soon to be 24 year old point guard then proceed to sign another veteran point guard in Payne? And after they did all that why did they give Hart the role of a point guard also?
After seeing McBride's limitations as a creator last season I can understand drafting an older NBA ready point guard in Kolek but Brunson/McBride/Kolek should have been enough at the 1 imo.
I can understand adding Payne so Thibs has his comfort blanket of an on-ball guard that can create something out of nothing on the bench but not after already adding an older 3rd PG in Kolek just to bury him.
I can understand giving Hart more of an on-ball role to take advantage of some of his ability as a creator and limit some of the disadvantages of him as an off-ball spacer but why have so many small point guards if that was the plan?
Even when Kolek does get minutes a lot of the time he is playing off-ball to Payne, McBride or Hart. Why draft a small true point guard to be an off-ball 3 and D player next to other small perimeter players? And if you were to try one of the rookies in that role wouldn't Pacome make more sense?
I know the KAT trade probably shook some things up but apparently they had been trying to make that deal all off-season and they wanted to keep DDV out of the deal. Was the plan to once again give Thibs of all coaches a team with a ton of smaller perimeter players with limitations defensively just to play at one of the slowest paces in the league again?
In a league where wings with length are highly valued why build a team with a ton of small perimeter depth, a ton of questionable center depth and no wing depth? I know options were probably limited on the wings but the areas where they have depth is overkill especially if Thibs won't use those options.
FrozenEnvelope wrote:Horrible loss and it's on every player and the HC. That 3rd quarter was embarrassing! Gotta give the Bulls credit. Seemed like the DRose thing at halftime inspired them. White and LaVine made everything.
And equally embarrassing is this board after losses. Some of you are such whiney little babies!!
