Beenie wrote:Tim_Hardawayy wrote:I was one of the few in here who was arguing against what Dame was doing despite still wanting him here obviously. Its bush league and I'm tired of players pulling this kind of crap. So personally I'd be thrilled if the Heat finally set a precedent of teams saying "**** YOU" to this sort of behavior, and **** them over right back. Keep him suspended, all we need is the expiring, we don't care about a couple second round picks or whatever he'd bring back.
Then, let it spread to the rest of the league, and end this insufferable era of player entitlement. No other professional league has the players routinely demanding teams to trade them to their preferred destinations, or even making trade demands period. I'm getting sick of how player centric the NBA has become, its a league now where the player fans have more to root for than the team fans do in many cases.
Port lied time and again to Dame about the direction of the team and allegedly told him when they negotiated his last contract with them that they would do right by him in sending him to the destination that he’d be happy with if things didn’t work out.
Mia allegedly told Jimmy that the vision was to add another star to the team when they initially courted him.
I don’t blame the player who eventually crashes out on the team when the team failed to deliver on promises made to the player
The player signs a contract. Nowhere in the contract does it state, "if the team doesn't make the moves you approve of, the player is allowed to demand a trade and/or quit on the team". If the NBPA wants to fight for that, do it, make it official, so I can just quit watching forever.
AirP. wrote:Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Then, let it spread to the rest of the league, and end this insufferable era of player entitlement. No other professional league has the players routinely demanding teams to trade them to their preferred destinations, or even making trade demands period. I'm getting sick of how player centric the NBA has become, its a league now where the player fans have more to root for than the team fans do in many cases.
I think it's purely financial right now. As Butler continues to get older it's going to be harder for him to maximize his pay before he can't play anymore which is why he wanted an extension this last season, it would have been removing his PO and adding 2 seasons at big money, basically just 1 extra year then he could have now BUT this would have that money on Miami's books in 2026 which is set up for a great pivot which he obviously doesn't care about but Miami does, so he asks to be traded to someone who will give him the money, they said no which may cost him millions because it's much easier to get an extra year or 2 at 34 (which he was this summer) vs 36 (after he played out his option), so he said he's going to opt out in hopes he can still get the most money he can make.
So basically, Miami wanted to just pay Butler well until their pivot point which is 100% what they should do but once Butler said he wanted to be traded to try to get more money past 2026 they should have moved him. Miami, Riley thought hey, he has to play great to get another contract, but every year that goes by that potential drops.
So when Ethan says it's about money, it is, he's just not saying Miami wanted to use him up and then let him hit the open market much older. It's a good idea for the FO, not so good for someone who has options, the same options Miami utilizes to get players to force their way to Miami.... THIS is why it's diffenet for Miami vs basically everyone else.
This is a fair take, but this is the sort of thing that has to be handled at the next collective bargaining agreement, nothing can be done now. The league has an issue right now where only like 10-20% of players are considered good contracts (rookie deals or the actual top 5 max worthy guys), another 10-20% are considered fair value for whatever reason, and the majority are considered net negatives, at least in terms of cap. That's a problem.
this roster construction is so bad man. 
