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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#81 » by Potential » Sun Jan 5, 2025 4:50 pm

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Miami should be trying to get GG Jackson, Zach Edey and Jaylin Wells. That's some good young talent.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#83 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 5, 2025 4:54 pm

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Ya, no way they should trade Bane for Butler.

Marcus Smart, Luke Kennard, Brandon Clarke and 1st pick for Butler and Kevin Love should be enough.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

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Ya, no way they should trade Bane for Butler.

Marcus Smart, Luke Kennard, Brandon Clarke and 1st pick for Butler and Kevin Love should be enough.


Yeah trading Bane for a 35 yr old Butler would be dumb
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#85 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Jan 5, 2025 5:26 pm

If Memphis makes the trade for Butler and Banes is going out, then if I’m Bobby I’m calling both those teams.

Bruce for Rozier and Jovic

Poeltl for salary and Edey


Memphis only makes that trade if they are planning to extend him. They are giving themselves a 2 year window. Edey is going to be a good player/C long term, but a trade for Butler means their time is now. Edey isn’t ready for now time.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#86 » by TorontoBarneys » Sun Jan 5, 2025 5:32 pm

My personal favorite destination for Jimmy is the Warriors.

I think Steph/Jimmy/Dray is a great trio for the final hurrah of Curry's career. Might even win a ring.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#87 » by ontnut » Sun Jan 5, 2025 6:11 pm

Psubs wrote:Marcus Smart, Luke Kennard, Brandon Clarke and 1st pick for Butler and Kevin Love should be enough.

I don't think Jimmy is worth a superstar haul, but wtf is this package lol. MIA insta hangs up.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#88 » by Los_29 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 6:20 pm

Very curious to see what kind of return Jimmy gets. He shouldn’t get a big haul back given his age and contract. But if you can get him at a reasonable price he could really elevate a team.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#89 » by TimeForChange » Sun Jan 5, 2025 6:24 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:If Memphis makes the trade for Butler and Banes is going out, then if I’m Bobby I’m calling both those teams.

Bruce for Rozier and Jovic

Poeltl for salary and Edey


Memphis only makes that trade if they are planning to extend him. They are giving themselves a 2 year window. Edey is going to be a good player/C long term, but a trade for Butler means their time is now. Edey isn’t ready for now time.

Memphis is not trading Edey for Poeltl. Come on now. Poeltl doesn't move the needle.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#90 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sun Jan 5, 2025 6:39 pm

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Psubs wrote:Marcus Smart, Luke Kennard, Brandon Clarke and 1st pick for Butler and Kevin Love should be enough.

I don't think Jimmy is worth a superstar haul, but wtf is this package lol. MIA insta hangs up.

grizz will be on the hook for butlers extension. no one is gonna pay a premium for that.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#91 » by sidsid » Sun Jan 5, 2025 6:45 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:If Memphis makes the trade for Butler and Banes is going out, then if I’m Bobby I’m calling both those teams.

Bruce for Rozier and Jovic

Poeltl for salary and Edey


Memphis only makes that trade if they are planning to extend him. They are giving themselves a 2 year window. Edey is going to be a good player/C long term, but a trade for Butler means their time is now. Edey isn’t ready for now time.


Miami has enough to likely get under the tax next year with smaller trades, so who knows if they do follow-ups.

But yeah, the Jak possibilities shoot up in this scenario. You'd have to think they're green lighting a couple years of tax in this scenario too from ownership. Maybe Bruce here too, but they're running out of salaries to trade with just Clarke/Smart as big ones to make it happen.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#92 » by PhilBlackson » Sun Jan 5, 2025 6:47 pm

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Psubs wrote:Marcus Smart, Luke Kennard, Brandon Clarke and 1st pick for Butler and Kevin Love should be enough.

I don't think Jimmy is worth a superstar haul, but wtf is this package lol. MIA insta hangs up.

grizz will be on the hook for butlers extension. no one is gonna pay a premium for that.


Riley also isn’t the type of GM to just accept whatever bs you throw at him.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#93 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Jan 5, 2025 6:54 pm

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ArthurVandelay wrote:If Memphis makes the trade for Butler and Banes is going out, then if I’m Bobby I’m calling both those teams.

Bruce for Rozier and Jovic

Poeltl for salary and Edey


Memphis only makes that trade if they are planning to extend him. They are giving themselves a 2 year window. Edey is going to be a good player/C long term, but a trade for Butler means their time is now. Edey isn’t ready for now time.


Miami has enough to likely get under the tax next year with smaller trades, so who knows if they do follow-ups.

But yeah, the Jak possibilities shoot up in this scenario. You'd have to think they're green lighting a couple years of tax in this scenario too from ownership. Maybe Bruce here too, but they're running out of salaries to trade with just Clarke/Smart as big ones to make it happen.


If Bane goes out in a deal for Butler, Grizz wont be worrying about tax even with Butler extension. They are currently just under $30m away from tax next season, lose Bane and now they are about $65m below tax.

It is possible for Miami to duck the tax this year. I’d imagine that is going to be a goal. No one wants to pay tax and lose out on revenue share to make the play in. For Miami it is over a $50m swing ($13m salary + $25m tax + share of tax). They also have to be cognizant of the repeater tax as they were a tax team last year too.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#94 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sun Jan 5, 2025 6:59 pm

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ontnut wrote:I don't think Jimmy is worth a superstar haul, but wtf is this package lol. MIA insta hangs up.

grizz will be on the hook for butlers extension. no one is gonna pay a premium for that.


Riley also isn’t the type of GM to just accept whatever bs you throw at him.

neither is anyone else. and as far as we know, there is no team really that desperate to offer up the farm; the trade deadline is in a month and the market is not substantially going to change.
heat just got destroyed by the tanking jazz last night; team is very distracted and they are trying to make the playoffs to avert a disaster situation with their picks.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#95 » by PhilBlackson » Sun Jan 5, 2025 7:05 pm

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AkelaLoneWolf wrote:grizz will be on the hook for butlers extension. no one is gonna pay a premium for that.


Riley also isn’t the type of GM to just accept whatever bs you throw at him.

neither is anyone else. and as far as we know, there is no team really that desperate to offer up the farm; the trade deadline is in a month and the market is not substantially going to change.
heat just got destroyed by the tanking jazz last night; team is very distracted and they are trying to make the playoffs to avert a disaster situation with their picks.


Nonetheless they're not gonna take a handful of washed up vets and one of the worst picks as compensation....the Warriors can EASILY top that.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#96 » by Kingsway_fan » Sun Jan 5, 2025 7:21 pm

ontnut wrote:
Psubs wrote:Marcus Smart, Luke Kennard, Brandon Clarke and 1st pick for Butler and Kevin Love should be enough.

I don't think Jimmy is worth a superstar haul, but wtf is this package lol. MIA insta hangs up.


If I were Memphis, I would offer much less.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#97 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sun Jan 5, 2025 7:36 pm

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Riley also isn’t the type of GM to just accept whatever bs you throw at him.

neither is anyone else. and as far as we know, there is no team really that desperate to offer up the farm; the trade deadline is in a month and the market is not substantially going to change.
heat just got destroyed by the tanking jazz last night; team is very distracted and they are trying to make the playoffs to avert a disaster situation with their picks.


Nonetheless they're not gonna take a handful of washed up vets and one of the worst picks as compensation....the Warriors can EASILY top that.

maybe but people also need to stop worshipping at the altar of riley.
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Re: Shams: Jimmy Butler requests trade out of Miami 

Post#98 » by Appostis » Sun Jan 5, 2025 7:54 pm

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Ya, no way they should trade Bane for Butler.

Marcus Smart, Luke Kennard, Brandon Clarke and 1st pick for Butler and Kevin Love should be enough.


Yup. People saying Bane just are living on a different planet.

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