OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson

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Re: OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson 

Post#41 » by Papi_swav » Sun Jan 5, 2025 12:57 am

BigGargamel wrote:In the other thread at GB I said Dieng, Wallace, K. Williams and a future first (not 2025) for Cam Johnson. That's a really fair deal for BKN and the Thunder can afford to come off of Wallace, since they're so deep guard wise.

I mean, the Thunder are going to have to give up SOMETHING. People projecting filler and 2025 picks, naah. BKN already has FOUR 2025 picks. Adding more non-lottery picks would do nothing. They'd probably rather have Wallace, someone they can envision as their point guard of the future.

lol exactly, these guys here thinking Nets should take Utahs fake pick that might not ever convey like the Nets are dumb enough to accept that as an asset
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Re: OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson 

Post#42 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 2:03 am

Na Presti isn’t going to overpay like that. No chance Cason Wallace is in the deal.
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Re: OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson 

Post#43 » by Papi_swav » Sun Jan 5, 2025 6:12 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Replace the 25 1st with UTA 1st, it's protected, may not convey, but Brooklyn is loaded in the 25 draft already.

and why would nets accept a pick that might not convey?
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Re: OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson 

Post#44 » by mcfly1204 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 6:31 pm

Papi_swav wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Replace the 25 1st with UTA 1st, it's protected, may not convey, but Brooklyn is loaded in the 25 draft already.

and why would nets accept a pick that might not convey?

Because it might convey.
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Re: OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson 

Post#45 » by Mavrelous » Sun Jan 5, 2025 6:32 pm

Papi_swav wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Replace the 25 1st with UTA 1st, it's protected, may not convey, but Brooklyn is loaded in the 25 draft already.

and why would nets accept a pick that might not convey?

Bescause it's fair value, and better value than 25 pick that will convey.
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Re: OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson 

Post#46 » by Papi_swav » Sun Jan 5, 2025 7:20 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Replace the 25 1st with UTA 1st, it's protected, may not convey, but Brooklyn is loaded in the 25 draft already.

and why would nets accept a pick that might not convey?

Bescause it's fair value, and better value than 25 pick that will convey.

how is it fair value if it won't convey? Utah is almost guaranteed to have a top 5 pick.
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Re: OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson 

Post#47 » by Mavrelous » Sun Jan 5, 2025 7:25 pm

Papi_swav wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:and why would nets accept a pick that might not convey?

Bescause it's fair value, and better value than 25 pick that will convey.

how is it fair value if it won't convey? Utah is almost guaranteed to have a top 5 pick.

It rolls to next year.
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Re: OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson 

Post#48 » by Papi_swav » Sun Jan 5, 2025 7:40 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Bescause it's fair value, and better value than 25 pick that will convey.

how is it fair value if it won't convey? Utah is almost guaranteed to have a top 5 pick.

It rolls to next year.

ok I just read its 1-10 protected this year= won't convey. 1-10 protected next year= likely not to convey. And 1-8 protected the year after= too early to know. And if the picks don't convey then OKC won't get anything. Knowing Danny Ainge that pick won't convey so I would not want that pick if I'm the nets.
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Re: OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson 

Post#49 » by BadWolf » Sun Jan 5, 2025 9:37 pm

I don't think Wiggins or Wallace should be available for Cam.
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Re: OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson 

Post#50 » by BrianInPhilly » Sun Jan 5, 2025 9:38 pm

I'd do it if I was OKC .. I'm a fan of trading for guys with 2+ years on a deal because you can always trade them in a year and essentially get the value back you traded. So next trade deadline 2026, he can be used as a piece in a trade for an even better player if need be. Basically what the Nets are doing since they got him from Phoenix.
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Re: OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson 

Post#51 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Jan 7, 2025 4:52 am

Methinks Cam Johnson is going to bring back a surprisingly strong return between now and draft night.

It will be quality over quantity with one blue chip-ish asset, another high quality asset and little to no long term salary that isn’t rookie scale.

Something like Topic and one of the better upside(but not best) picks OKC has.

Or traded to a not yet mentioned team like Orlando with Cam Thomas for Suggs and 2 1sts.
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Re: OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson 

Post#52 » by DaddyCool19 » Tue Jan 7, 2025 4:59 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:Methinks Cam Johnson is going to bring back a surprisingly strong return between now and draft night.

It will be quality over quantity with one blue chip-ish asset, another high quality asset and little to no long term salary that isn’t rookie scale.

Something like Topic and one of the better upside(but not best) picks OKC has.

Or traded to a not yet mentioned team like Orlando with Cam Thomas for Suggs and 2 1sts.


Orlando makes not much sense with Wagner and Banchero being around and them having da Silva and Isaac off the bench
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Re: OKC/BKN - Cam Johnson 

Post#53 » by Devilanche » Tue Jan 7, 2025 6:54 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:Methinks Cam Johnson is going to bring back a surprisingly strong return between now and draft night.

It will be quality over quantity with one blue chip-ish asset, another high quality asset and little to no long term salary that isn’t rookie scale.

Something like Topic and one of the better upside(but not best) picks OKC has.

Or traded to a not yet mentioned team like Orlando with Cam Thomas for Suggs and 2 1sts.

Is that Orlando giving up the 2 first ? I rather have Suggs than Cam Thomas.

Edit - and for the record I rather have Suggs than cam Johnson as well.
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