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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#761 » by Pattersonca65 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 11:16 pm

First game of the year I have no interest in watching. Hard to root for a loss and a meangless game other than for draft position. At least I didnt have to watch Guerendo go down with a knee injury
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#762 » by Big J » Sun Jan 5, 2025 11:24 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:First game of the year I have no interest in watching. Hard to root for a loss and a meangless game other than for draft position. At least I didnt have to watch Guerendo go down with a knee injury


Wasn't last week meaningless also?
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#763 » by Pattersonca65 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 11:58 pm

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Pattersonca65 wrote:First game of the year I have no interest in watching. Hard to root for a loss and a meangless game other than for draft position. At least I didnt have to watch Guerendo go down with a knee injury


Wasn't last week meaningless also?

Also dont root for a loss with draft position on the line
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#764 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Jan 6, 2025 12:17 am

11th pick is so huge, you can do so much more with it vs 14th
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#765 » by Jikkle » Mon Jan 6, 2025 12:26 am

While I'm glad we embraced the tank I still have mixed feelings about it considering we are about to go 1-7 in our last 8 games with the one win being against a Bears team that went on a 10-game losing streak themselves.

Hopefully at least it causes Shanahan to make some major changes because you simply can't pin everything on just injuries.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#766 » by thesack12 » Mon Jan 6, 2025 12:29 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:11th pick is so huge, you can do so much more with it vs 14th


Of course, you'd rather have #11 over #14, but I think you are overselling it a bit here.

That said, the loss today is not just notable for 1st round ramifications.

SF is the only 6-11 team. Had they won today, they would have been in a 3 way tie at 7-10. Which would have meant, they would of had to rotate with those other teams on which one of the 3 picks ahead of the others in each round. With the loss today, they will have the 11th pick in every round.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#767 » by thesack12 » Mon Jan 6, 2025 12:33 am

Big J wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:Cowboys winning is a good thing
Not cause of Trey Lance. The Commanders are playing light passing defense to make Trey look good, hoping the Cowboys would resign him. So noble of them!

Read on Twitter


To be fair to Trey, he is playing with backups across the board on offense, since everyone here uses that excuse for Purdy.


LMAO, this is classic Big J flip flop action right here.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#768 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Jan 6, 2025 12:37 am

I was embracing the tank but 47 to the Cardinals? Holy ****
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#769 » by Jikkle » Mon Jan 6, 2025 12:46 am

If Sorsensen is DC next season I'd like to say I'd boycott the 9ers but I won't.

Still ending the season by giving up 47 points to the Cardinals just shows the players completely quit on him and/or he's just really bad at his job.

I still stand by my prediction Ulbrich will be DC and it might happen by the end of the week.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#770 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Jan 6, 2025 12:48 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:I was embracing the tank but 47 to the Cardinals? Holy ****


Sorenson is the worst coordinator in the league. If Kyle brings him back, I'm at zero tolerance if we miss the playoffs. It's fireable in my view. It would show an unwillingness to acknowledge glaring issues and resolve to do what it takes to get back on top.

Schneider is close behind. But Sorenson has to go. He hasn't made a positive change all season.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#771 » by Big J » Mon Jan 6, 2025 12:50 am

thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:Not cause of Trey Lance. The Commanders are playing light passing defense to make Trey look good, hoping the Cowboys would resign him. So noble of them!

Read on Twitter


To be fair to Trey, he is playing with backups across the board on offense, since everyone here uses that excuse for Purdy.


LMAO, this is classic Big J flip flop action right here.


I mean, it's not like he was bad, especially considering it was only his 3rd full regular season game.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#772 » by thesack12 » Mon Jan 6, 2025 12:54 am

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thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:
To be fair to Trey, he is playing with backups across the board on offense, since everyone here uses that excuse for Purdy.


LMAO, this is classic Big J flip flop action right here.


I mean, it's not like he was bad, especially considering it was only his 3rd full regular season game.


Its not like he was good, or elevated his team...

Back to the original point, yet again you insist on reversing your views/stances simply because its currently convenient for your self driven narrative.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#773 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Jan 6, 2025 1:14 am

thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:Not cause of Trey Lance. The Commanders are playing light passing defense to make Trey look good, hoping the Cowboys would resign him. So noble of them!

Read on Twitter


To be fair to Trey, he is playing with backups across the board on offense, since everyone here uses that excuse for Purdy.


LMAO, this is classic Big J flip flop action right here.

Trey Lance couldnt beat out Cooper Rush fpr 2nd string. That is how bad he is
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#774 » by Big J » Mon Jan 6, 2025 1:18 am

thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:
thesack12 wrote:
LMAO, this is classic Big J flip flop action right here.


I mean, it's not like he was bad, especially considering it was only his 3rd full regular season game.


Its not like he was good, or elevated his team...

Back to the original point, yet again you insist on reversing your views/stances simply because its currently convenient for your self driven narrative.


Wouldn't expect anyone with only 2 full games under their belt to do that.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#775 » by Jikkle » Mon Jan 6, 2025 1:25 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:I was embracing the tank but 47 to the Cardinals? Holy ****


Sorenson is the worst coordinator in the league. If Kyle brings him back, I'm at zero tolerance if we miss the playoffs. It's fireable in my view. It would show an unwillingness to acknowledge glaring issues and resolve to do what it takes to get back on top.

Schneider is close behind. But Sorenson has to go. He hasn't made a positive change all season.


The Sorensen hire to me is the worst of Kyle.

He went out of his comfort zone when he hired Wilks and got burned when Wilks didn't run the defense exactly like Shanahan wanted so being the ultra conservative coach that he is he went to find a guy that's been with the team and knows to run the defense exactly like Shanahan wanted.

That's why he wanted Ulbrich at first since he's buddies with him and he's part of the coaching tree that will run the defense exactly as it's been ran since Saleh.

I personally believed he wanted Staley to be DC but didn't want to repeat the same mistake with Wilks so he gave Staley a spot on the staff so he could potentially learn the 9er way and take the spot if it worked out that way.

So that left him with Sorensen as the only option that fit the criteria of being a guy that was familiar with the players and knew the defense and exactly how Kyle wanted to run it.

Sorensen's fatal flaw is he ran as exactly as it's been ran under Saleh and Ryans but never adjusted to the fact we didn't have the talent to run it like that or adjusted to the adjustments offenses have made against the scheme. Sorensen was calling plays like we had Bosa, Buckner, Armstead, and Ford on the line with Al-Shazier (sp?), Greenlaw, and Warner as LBs.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#776 » by Jikkle » Mon Jan 6, 2025 1:34 am

One thing that definitely needs to be done when offseason work starts is really hammer home the fundamentals.

The team under Shanahan has never been crisp and sharp in that regard which I've criticized for years but this season it was beyond unacceptable.

The amount of penalties in key moments, the amount of penalties in general, the terrible tackling, and just lack of all-around execution was terrible this year.

I'm not a fan of using injuries as an excuse either because these guys are practicing and taking reps too. I could accept those kinds of mistakes if they were backups just losing physically but we saw way too many mental mistakes and with mental mistakes it shouldn't matter which string you are in on the roster.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#777 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Jan 6, 2025 7:13 am

Rumor floating around Moody is going to be released during the offseason
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#778 » by WentzerWuver » Mon Jan 6, 2025 4:44 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:Rumor floating around Moody is going to be released during the offseason
It is definite, and no other team will pick him up. You can find any UFA that would be better than a mentally weak kicker.

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/brandon-aubrey-kicks-way-into-nfl-history-books-during-cowboys-season-finale

Chase should be in the drafting room for the 49ers for 2025 making the final decision instead of Lynch for obvious reasons. No sane GM would take a kicker instead of filling a much greater need in the 3rd round.

https://youtu.be/DmcjV9wnz9Q?si=eDNmjPvkRQQQbXrf
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#779 » by wco81 » Mon Jan 6, 2025 6:08 pm

Injuries alone doesn't explain the poor season.

Lions had a lot of injuries and they've won 15 games, good chance to go to the Super Bowl.

If they do turn it around next season, watch Jed give them another 6 year extension.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#780 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Jan 6, 2025 6:44 pm

Jikkle wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:I was embracing the tank but 47 to the Cardinals? Holy ****


Sorenson is the worst coordinator in the league. If Kyle brings him back, I'm at zero tolerance if we miss the playoffs. It's fireable in my view. It would show an unwillingness to acknowledge glaring issues and resolve to do what it takes to get back on top.

Schneider is close behind. But Sorenson has to go. He hasn't made a positive change all season.


The Sorensen hire to me is the worst of Kyle.

He went out of his comfort zone when he hired Wilks and got burned when Wilks didn't run the defense exactly like Shanahan wanted so being the ultra conservative coach that he is he went to find a guy that's been with the team and knows to run the defense exactly like Shanahan wanted.

That's why he wanted Ulbrich at first since he's buddies with him and he's part of the coaching tree that will run the defense exactly as it's been ran since Saleh.

I personally believed he wanted Staley to be DC but didn't want to repeat the same mistake with Wilks so he gave Staley a spot on the staff so he could potentially learn the 9er way and take the spot if it worked out that way.

So that left him with Sorensen as the only option that fit the criteria of being a guy that was familiar with the players and knew the defense and exactly how Kyle wanted to run it.

Sorensen's fatal flaw is he ran as exactly as it's been ran under Saleh and Ryans but never adjusted to the fact we didn't have the talent to run it like that or adjusted to the adjustments offenses have made against the scheme. Sorensen was calling plays like we had Bosa, Buckner, Armstead, and Ford on the line with Al-Shazier (sp?), Greenlaw, and Warner as LBs.


I can forgive the hire a bit because we wrapped up our season so late and there weren't a lot of options. Might as well go with a guy who is at least familiar with the system and the players. But keeping that guy after he has flailed all season is not forgivable.

People talk about the injuries, but the D really wasn't all that injured. We lost Hargrave, who was playing badly. We should never have expected Greenlaw to make an impact this season given his injury and the timing. Maybe you hope to get more out of Hufanga, but that's also a guy who you should have had contingencies for.

This defense got progressively worse throughout the season. We ended the season fourth-worst in points allowed, at 25.6 PPG. After the bye, we allowed 20+ points in seven of nine games (only the Bears and the Rams in the rain had less), 30+ points in four of eight, and 40+ in the last two. Over the last eight games, we allowed 29.25 points on average.

Even worse, we could not stop teams in the red zone, on 3rd down, and in the 4th quarter. The 4th quarter is particularly glaring. We allowed at least seven fourth-quarter points to every single opponent after the bye, and an average of 10.4 points. We beat TB, but only after they made what looked like a cake-walk interesting and we needed a FG drive to win. Seattle came back and beat us despite a lead. The Rams piled up 9 of the 12 points they scored. Miami broke open a competitive game to win convincingly. The same goes for the Cards, who were up by two going into the fourth (granted they scored a TD on the second play) and won by 23.

I get a learning curve, but Sorenson started bad and got worse as the season progressed. I really, really, REALLY hope the talk bolstering him over the past month has been just that, and that we go our separate ways in the very near future. You just can't justify bringing him back if this team wants to compete for the SB next year.

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