Game 34: Wolves vs Pistons 6:00 PM CT

[FrenchMinnyFan]

Ant actually had a terrific game from a decision-making standpoint. But his teammates absolutely tanked him.

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And we are back to chicken and egg. If guys don’t shoot much and spend a ton of time standing around they get cold and disinterested. Then, you task them with making shots and they struggle. When the ball moves and everyone is engaged things tend to go better. That is why the bench mob does so well when Ant sits. First is was with Mike and Rudy, then with Randle and Minott. Play the right way you get better results.

That's exactly the point. ANT score 53 so what. The others look totally disinterested, does not make effort on defense and rebounding
and we have never been in position to win this game....MJ was going for 50 some nights but always make sure his teammate were involved. That's what do real champion. I'm not saying ANT cannot go there but he is clearly not ready right now.

[BlacJacMac]

Ant actually had a terrific game from a decision-making standpoint. But his teammates absolutely tanked him.

Can The Wolves Help Anthony Edwards?

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=HowlsAndGrowls

And we are back to chicken and egg. If guys don’t shoot much and spend a ton of time standing around they get cold and disinterested. Then, you task them with making shots and they struggle. When the ball moves and everyone is engaged things tend to go better. That is why the bench mob does so well when Ant sits. First is was with Mike and Rudy, then with Randle and Minott. Play the right way you get better results.

That's exactly the point. ANT score 53 so what. The others look totally disinterested, does not make effort on defense and rebounding
and we have never been in position to win this game....MJ was going for 50 some nights but always make sure his teammate were involved. That's what do real champion. I'm not saying ANT cannot go there but he is clearly not ready right now.

But Any did try to get his teammates involved. He can’t shoot the ball, or make decisions for them.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

And we are back to chicken and egg. If guys don’t shoot much and spend a ton of time standing around they get cold and disinterested. Then, you task them with making shots and they struggle. When the ball moves and everyone is engaged things tend to go better. That is why the bench mob does so well when Ant sits. First is was with Mike and Rudy, then with Randle and Minott. Play the right way you get better results.

That's exactly the point. ANT score 53 so what. The others look totally disinterested, does not make effort on defense and rebounding
and we have never been in position to win this game....MJ was going for 50 some nights but always make sure his teammate were involved. That's what do real champion. I'm not saying ANT cannot go there but he is clearly not ready right now.

But Any did try to get his teammates involved. He can’t shoot the ball, or make decisions for them.

I disagree for 2 reasons :

- The game before, he say he don't want to pass much...
- Jaden, Rudy and Mike combined around 16 shoots, way below their usual number and ANT got one assist...

What i don't understand in Finch coaching is the way he us ANT right now. Seems he got no strategy to use ANT strength ( scoring, defending...).

[Folklore]

Blow it up doesn’t work when you don’t control your picks. Also it is way too early to hit that panic button.

Unfortunately I think that it lay be too late thanks to TC. I've always thought about the point of every move. where will the team be in a couple of years if it doesn't mean championship. Now here we are doubling down on bad moves and the a guy who's making the moves is not really committed to the organization. Kat should have been moved for picks and potential stars period. Now we wont get much back for the players we have because we aren't a winning team and the players are losing value because TC made that bad trade. We are the next bottom feeding team after this season.

Sorry man but this is a bad take. Good players will have interest from multiple teams which will raise the value. Ant has no leg to stand on demanding a trade on a bad Ant season right after going to the WCF. Don’t forget Ant has been in the post season every season following his rookie year. He cannot both demand a trade and protect his rep and he clearly cares about his rep. One good trade off Randle and a promotion for Naz fixes a lot of our problems. Also remember we have a ton of young talent that could develop. Minott and Dilly have shown flashes, TSJ has at least 8 years of control and Miller/Clark both show interesting signs in the G. Oh, and we just added Newton who could make a decent PG2 in the future. We are also 17-17 far from doomed.

I agree that Ant is at fault for his problems but for the agent its the organization that went out of its way to expose those issues. Other teams wouldn't want to trade for Ant unless they had a real 2 to pair with him because his faults are glaring. Before trading KAT teams probably thought that he could carry them alone too until now.

We both know that as long as Finch is here we wont be developing anyone lol For a team that traded away so many picks its crazy that we think we can get away with not developing.

My prediction (hope I'm wrong) for next season is this if Randle stays.

Mike/DD/Rob
Ant/DD/scrub
Jaden/scrub/Shannon
Randle/scrub/Josh
Rudy/scrub/Garza

blow it up.

Maybe one of NAW or Naz stays if we let Garza and Josh walk. I'm not sure if letting them walk would help with the cap to pay them.

[BlacJacMac]

That's exactly the point. ANT score 53 so what. The others look totally disinterested, does not make effort on defense and rebounding
and we have never been in position to win this game....MJ was going for 50 some nights but always make sure his teammate were involved. That's what do real champion. I'm not saying ANT cannot go there but he is clearly not ready right now.

But Any did try to get his teammates involved. He can’t shoot the ball, or make decisions for them.

I disagree for 2 reasons :

- The game before, he say he don't want to pass much...
- Jaden, Rudy and Mike combined around 16 shoots, way below their usual number and ANT got one assist...

What i don't understand in Finch coaching is the way he us ANT right now. Seems he got no strategy to use ANT strength ( scoring, defending...).

Watch the video.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

But Any did try to get his teammates involved. He can’t shoot the ball, or make decisions for them.

I disagree for 2 reasons :

- The game before, he say he don't want to pass much...
- Jaden, Rudy and Mike combined around 16 shoots, way below their usual number and ANT got one assist...

What i don't understand in Finch coaching is the way he us ANT right now. Seems he got no strategy to use ANT strength ( scoring, defending...).

Watch the video.

I watch all entire game, much better than one video where you only put image serving your comments.

[BlacJacMac]

It was the whole game. He made good decision after good decision. Bad things happened when his teammates caught the ball.

[winforlose]

Unfortunately I think that it lay be too late thanks to TC. I've always thought about the point of every move. where will the team be in a couple of years if it doesn't mean championship. Now here we are doubling down on bad moves and the a guy who's making the moves is not really committed to the organization. Kat should have been moved for picks and potential stars period. Now we wont get much back for the players we have because we aren't a winning team and the players are losing value because TC made that bad trade. We are the next bottom feeding team after this season.

Sorry man but this is a bad take. Good players will have interest from multiple teams which will raise the value. Ant has no leg to stand on demanding a trade on a bad Ant season right after going to the WCF. Don’t forget Ant has been in the post season every season following his rookie year. He cannot both demand a trade and protect his rep and he clearly cares about his rep. One good trade off Randle and a promotion for Naz fixes a lot of our problems. Also remember we have a ton of young talent that could develop. Minott and Dilly have shown flashes, TSJ has at least 8 years of control and Miller/Clark both show interesting signs in the G. Oh, and we just added Newton who could make a decent PG2 in the future. We are also 17-17 far from doomed.

I agree that Ant is at fault for his problems but for the agent its the organization that went out of its way to expose those issues. Other teams wouldn't want to trade for Ant unless they had a real 2 to pair with him because his faults are glaring. Before trading KAT teams probably thought that he could carry them alone too until now.

We both know that as long as Finch is here we wont be developing anyone lol For a team that traded away so many picks its crazy that we think we can get away with not developing.

My prediction (hope I'm wrong) for next season is this if Randle stays.

Mike/DD/Rob
Ant/DD/scrub
Jaden/scrub/Shannon
Randle/scrub/Josh
Rudy/scrub/Garza

blow it up.

Maybe one of NAW or Naz stays if we let Garza and Josh walk. I'm not sure if letting them walk would help with the cap to pay them.

Cap is expected to be 154.6. Without Naz (he opts out) we are 172 and change. tax starts at 187.9. Wolves will be able to afford at least one of Naz or NAW, and depending on how the season progresses maybe both.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/_/year/2025/sort/cap_maximum_space

[FrenchMinnyFan]

It was the whole game. He made good decision after good decision. Bad things happened when his teammates caught the ball.

I agree for Rudy, who was awful at the beginning of the game, 3 TO....
But how do you explain that Mike and Jaden shot way less than they usually do? Mike shoot was bad as well but low volume shooting are not a good way to get into action, specially at 37.

[winforlose]

It was the whole game. He made good decision after good decision. Bad things happened when his teammates caught the ball.

I agree for Rudy, who was awful at the beginning of the game, 3 TO....
But how do you explain that Mike and Jaden shot way less than they usually do? Mike shoot was bad as well but low volume shooting are not a good way to get into action, specially at 37.

Two were fouls if you look. One was a defensive rebound where he is hit in the face, the other (going from memory,) was a pass Rudy threw where the Wolf was prevented from making the catch by being held. I need to double check the second, but I remember the play and screaming foul at the TV. Rudy also was complaining.

[BlacJacMac]

It was the whole game. He made good decision after good decision. Bad things happened when his teammates caught the ball.

I agree for Rudy, who was awful at the beginning of the game, 3 TO....
But how do you explain that Mike and Jaden shot way less than they usually do? Mike shoot was bad as well but low volume shooting are not a good way to get into action, specially at 37.

Mike and Jaden both took 3 fewer shots than their season average. And Mike only played 21 minutes and didn’t make a shot.

Randle was a much bigger problem than Ant. Bad decision after bad decision.

[winforlose]

It was the whole game. He made good decision after good decision. Bad things happened when his teammates caught the ball.

I agree for Rudy, who was awful at the beginning of the game, 3 TO....
But how do you explain that Mike and Jaden shot way less than they usually do? Mike shoot was bad as well but low volume shooting are not a good way to get into action, specially at 37.

Mike and Jaden both took 3 fewer shots than their season average. And Mike only played 21 minutes and didn’t make a shot.

Randle was a much bigger problem than Ant. Bad decision after bad decision.

It’s not just about the shot volume, it’s about the time between shots and the lack of involvement in the offense between them. Jaden and Rudy need to feel like part of the offense or they struggle in every phase of the game.

[Note30]

Ant actually had a terrific game from a decision-making standpoint. But his teammates absolutely tanked him.

Can The Wolves Help Anthony Edwards?

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=HowlsAndGrowls

And we are back to chicken and egg. If guys don’t shoot much and spend a ton of time standing around they get cold and disinterested. Then, you task them with making shots and they struggle. When the ball moves and everyone is engaged things tend to go better. That is why the bench mob does so well when Ant sits. First is was with Mike and Rudy, then with Randle and Minott. Play the right way you get better results.

That's exactly the point. ANT score 53 so what. The others look totally disinterested, does not make effort on defense and rebounding
and we have never been in position to win this game....MJ was going for 50 some nights but always make sure his teammate were involved. That's what do real champion. I'm not saying ANT cannot go there but he is clearly not ready right now.

Not gonna lie, I prefer Ant score 50+. The rest of our players except Donte/Naz are kind of liabilities on offense.

I rather the other four just play good defense and get the hell out of his way.

[Note30]

I agree for Rudy, who was awful at the beginning of the game, 3 TO....
But how do you explain that Mike and Jaden shot way less than they usually do? Mike shoot was bad as well but low volume shooting are not a good way to get into action, specially at 37.

Mike and Jaden both took 3 fewer shots than their season average. And Mike only played 21 minutes and didn’t make a shot.

Randle was a much bigger problem than Ant. Bad decision after bad decision.

It’s not just about the shot volume, it’s about the time between shots and the lack of involvement in the offense between them. Jaden and Rudy need to feel like part of the offense or they struggle in every phase of the game.

Why? They are both trash. Maybe if either of them weren't absolute scrubs on offense they'd get the ball.

Just get the damn rebound and play good defense.

[winforlose]

Mike and Jaden both took 3 fewer shots than their season average. And Mike only played 21 minutes and didn’t make a shot.

Randle was a much bigger problem than Ant. Bad decision after bad decision.

It’s not just about the shot volume, it’s about the time between shots and the lack of involvement in the offense between them. Jaden and Rudy need to feel like part of the offense or they struggle in every phase of the game.

Why? They are both trash. Maybe if either of them weren't absolute scrubs on offense they'd get the ball.

Just get the damn rebound and play good defense.

LOL, and you wonder why Ant is always multi covered. BTW how many games are won with 53 points? Ant dropped 53 and we still lost big.

[Note30]

It’s not just about the shot volume, it’s about the time between shots and the lack of involvement in the offense between them. Jaden and Rudy need to feel like part of the offense or they struggle in every phase of the game.

Why? They are both trash. Maybe if either of them weren't absolute scrubs on offense they'd get the ball.

Just get the damn rebound and play good defense.

LOL, and you wonder why Ant is always multi covered. BTW how many games are won with 53 points? Ant dropped 53 and we still lost big.

He's getting doubled because they are both trash. If it was KD out there and not McDaniels no question Ant wouldn't be getting doubled.

[winforlose]

Why? They are both trash. Maybe if either of them weren't absolute scrubs on offense they'd get the ball.

Just get the damn rebound and play good defense.

LOL, and you wonder why Ant is always multi covered. BTW how many games are won with 53 points? Ant dropped 53 and we still lost big.

He's getting doubled because they are both trash. If it was KD out there and not McDaniels no question Ant wouldn't be getting doubled.

Okay, so the test is your either KD or trash. Good to know.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

It was the whole game. He made good decision after good decision. Bad things happened when his teammates caught the ball.

I agree for Rudy, who was awful at the beginning of the game, 3 TO....
But how do you explain that Mike and Jaden shot way less than they usually do? Mike shoot was bad as well but low volume shooting are not a good way to get into action, specially at 37.

Mike and Jaden both took 3 fewer shots than their season average. And Mike only played 21 minutes and didn’t make a shot.

Randle was a much bigger problem than Ant. Bad decision after bad decision.

When you don't shoot, you got cold and lose rhythm. I totally agree about you on the fact that the real problem is Randle. He take care only of his stats but play no defense and does not fit at all with Rudy.

[TimberKat]

I agree for Rudy, who was awful at the beginning of the game, 3 TO....
But how do you explain that Mike and Jaden shot way less than they usually do? Mike shoot was bad as well but low volume shooting are not a good way to get into action, specially at 37.

Mike and Jaden both took 3 fewer shots than their season average. And Mike only played 21 minutes and didn’t make a shot.

Randle was a much bigger problem than Ant. Bad decision after bad decision.

It’s not just about the shot volume, it’s about the time between shots and the lack of involvement in the offense between them. Jaden and Rudy need to feel like part of the offense or they struggle in every phase of the game.

I would rather take Cade's 40-6-9ast than Ant's 53-6-2. If Ant wants to be a super JR Smith that is fine. That is just not a top 10 player. His defense is not a liability but also not great. He needs to hit the mid range at higher efficacy. Anytime a player score 50 is not a bad game for himself. However, he playing this way would not work with Randle. We need another facilitator to win games.

[TimberKat]

LOL, and you wonder why Ant is always multi covered. BTW how many games are won with 53 points? Ant dropped 53 and we still lost big.

He's getting doubled because they are both trash. If it was KD out there and not McDaniels no question Ant wouldn't be getting doubled.

Okay, so the test is your either KD or trash. Good to know.

Didn't people trash Towns about how bad he plays and not worth a superMax? If Ant can only play with another super star where Towns, Randle, or Gobert aren't good enough, than is he worth the superMax? Didn't some here wanted Randle instead of Towns? Are those the same that now saying Towns is better than Randle?