ImageImageImageImageImage

Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley…

Moderators: j4remi, HerSports85, NoLayupRule, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, dakomish23, Deeeez Knicks, mpharris36

B8RcDeMktfxC
General Manager
Posts: 9,673
And1: 6,491
Joined: Nov 23, 2018
Location: C'MON, COME GET THE FUKKIN BALL

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#421 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sat Jan 4, 2025 12:05 am

NYKnickerbocker wrote:Can’t wait for Mitch to come back. He’s exactly want you want from a rim running center. Elite defense, elite rebounding. And he doesn’t exactly chase after those stats like other guys do. He just does what the team needs for us to win. He’s stopped hunting blocks and just gives the best contest when necessary. He boxes out and isn’t really tryna pad his stats with easy rebounds. He’ll occasionally bitch if we don’t feed him tho lmao

Don’t rush him. Let him come back healthy and right

100%
B8RcDeMktfxC
General Manager
Posts: 9,673
And1: 6,491
Joined: Nov 23, 2018
Location: C'MON, COME GET THE FUKKIN BALL

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#422 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sat Jan 4, 2025 12:22 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
Read on Twitter




So, basically, he'll be out past the trade deadline, and if he gets hurt after that point what exactly was the point of keeping him?


It's too big of a risk to rely on him, he got hurt in May, he's not close after 8 months. There are guys that come back from ACL tears faster than this.

I don't think that's that (risk of not contributing) is the right way of looking at it.

If Mitch can play in the playoffs at his expected game then the Knicks are very likely clearly the 2nd best team in the East and have a punchers chance against the Celtics.

Without Mitch, no matter who they could realistically trade him and pieces for, the Knicks look dubious against a slew of teams in the East in the playoffs.

Yes, if Mitch can't contribute you theoretically have "improved" the team a smidgeon by trading him. But, no, that wouldn't actually make a significant difference in the playoffs to the version of reality where Mitch is still out.

The upside off having Mitch is so great - in terms of chances of winning the ECF at least - that there's no probability too small that he's available that justifies trading him.

I'd go even further ... Even if he's out for the season I don't see any point in trading him. He has more value as a trade piece later.

People keep talking about Kessler. But after the Utah game he - or anyone in the ballpark - are evidently not useful players for a Knicks team with ambitions to be a top 4 team in the league.

Not only could Kessler not cope with KAT's best moves. He couldn't cope with _any_ of KAT's moves. How is he going to defend Embiid or Gianni's or Cleveland's bigs ...? Answer ... ineffectually.
The KnicksFix
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,804
And1: 4,719
Joined: Oct 28, 2011
       

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#423 » by The KnicksFix » Sat Jan 4, 2025 8:32 am

We need Mitch back asap. With him in there he can protect the paint even more so our wing defenders don’t need to sprint to the perimeter and give up easy 3’s. After tonight’s loss to OKC, he is absolutely vital.
The KnicksFix
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,804
And1: 4,719
Joined: Oct 28, 2011
       

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#424 » by The KnicksFix » Sat Jan 4, 2025 8:47 am



There is no reason we can’t play like this again.
If you look at the lineup, we ran Jalen, Deuce, OG, Hart, Mitch for long stretches of that playoff series against Philly.
We still have ALL OF THOSE PLAYERS on our team. Why can’t we run those guys for certain stretches, while having KAT, precious, Mikal, Cam, Jalen. We have enough, Mitch is absolutely critical to the success of this team.
8516knicks
General Manager
Posts: 8,595
And1: 6,487
Joined: May 18, 2017
   

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#425 » by 8516knicks » Sat Jan 4, 2025 7:11 pm

NYKnickerbocker wrote:Can’t wait for Mitch to come back. He’s exactly want you want from a rim running center. Elite defense, elite rebounding. And he doesn’t exactly chase after those stats like other guys do. He just does what the team needs for us to win. He’s stopped hunting blocks and just gives the best contest when necessary. He boxes out and isn’t really tryna pad his stats with easy rebounds. He’ll occasionally bitch if we don’t feed him tho lmao

Don’t rush him. Let him come back healthy and right


"Can’t wait for Mitch to come back. He’s exactly want you want from a rim running center." WELL, NOT EXACTLY.

There's the little matter of ACTUALLY PLAYING GAMES instead of just cashing checks from the Knicks to consider. :crazy:
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,191
And1: 96,129
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#426 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 4, 2025 7:20 pm

Another waste of a roster spot
Image
User avatar
Enzo954
Starter
Posts: 2,340
And1: 3,636
Joined: Jul 09, 2014

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#427 » by Enzo954 » Sat Jan 4, 2025 8:12 pm

Just let his fragile ass heal up and unleash him 3 weeks prior to the playoffs.
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,191
And1: 96,129
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#428 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 4, 2025 10:43 pm

Enzo954 wrote:Just let his fragile ass heal up and unleash him 3 weeks prior to the playoffs.


And then watch him get hurt in the 2nd round.

If the Knicks make it out of the first round that is.
Image
KnixinSix
Head Coach
Posts: 7,188
And1: 3,871
Joined: Jul 27, 2013
Location: In the Spirit
       

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#429 » by KnixinSix » Sun Jan 5, 2025 2:33 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
Read on Twitter




So, basically, he'll be out past the trade deadline, and if he gets hurt after that point what exactly was the point of keeping him?


It's too big of a risk to rely on him, he got hurt in May, he's not close after 8 months. There are guys that come back from ACL tears faster than this.

I don't think that's that (risk of not contributing) is the right way of looking at it.

If Mitch can play in the playoffs at his expected game then the Knicks are very likely clearly the 2nd best team in the East and have a punchers chance against the Celtics.

Without Mitch, no matter who they could realistically trade him and pieces for, the Knicks look dubious against a slew of teams in the East in the playoffs.

Yes, if Mitch can't contribute you theoretically have "improved" the team a smidgeon by trading him. But, no, that wouldn't actually make a significant difference in the playoffs to the version of reality where Mitch is still out.

The upside off having Mitch is so great - in terms of chances of winning the ECF at least - that there's no probability too small that he's available that justifies trading him.

I'd go even further ... Even if he's out for the season I don't see any point in trading him. He has more value as a trade piece later.

People keep talking about Kessler. But after the Utah game he - or anyone in the ballpark - are evidently not useful players for a Knicks team with ambitions to be a top 4 team in the league.

Not only could Kessler not cope with KAT's best moves. He couldn't cope with _any_ of KAT's moves. How is he going to defend Embiid or Gianni's or Cleveland's bigs ...? Answer ... ineffectually.


Thibs gets Centers playing his brand of defense. Look at Mitches development under Thibs. Hartensteins. The bigs improve under this coaching staff. Kessler would be our best rim protector currently (not counting Mitch) and it wouldn't be particularly close.
New reality of Son ship!
All who receive and believe in Jesus, given the right to become children of God. Not born of flesh, but born of Spirit. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Glory that came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
-John 1
KnixinSix
Head Coach
Posts: 7,188
And1: 3,871
Joined: Jul 27, 2013
Location: In the Spirit
       

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#430 » by KnixinSix » Sun Jan 5, 2025 2:34 am

The KnicksFix wrote:

There is no reason we can’t play like this again.
If you look at the lineup, we ran Jalen, Deuce, OG, Hart, Mitch for long stretches of that playoff series against Philly.
We still have ALL OF THOSE PLAYERS on our team. Why can’t we run those guys for certain stretches, while having KAT, precious, Mikal, Cam, Jalen. We have enough, Mitch is absolutely critical to the success of this team.


The defense would be incredible. Add another guy too at the trade deadline.
New reality of Son ship!
All who receive and believe in Jesus, given the right to become children of God. Not born of flesh, but born of Spirit. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Glory that came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
-John 1
User avatar
GEOLINK
General Manager
Posts: 9,856
And1: 8,510
Joined: Mar 16, 2014
       

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#431 » by GEOLINK » Sun Jan 5, 2025 9:12 am

The KnicksFix wrote:

There is no reason we can’t play like this again.
If you look at the lineup, we ran Jalen, Deuce, OG, Hart, Mitch for long stretches of that playoff series against Philly.
We still have ALL OF THOSE PLAYERS on our team. Why can’t we run those guys for certain stretches, while having KAT, precious, Mikal, Cam, Jalen. We have enough, Mitch is absolutely critical to the success of this team.

I miss this man so much.
nykballa2k4
RealGM
Posts: 31,081
And1: 7,451
Joined: Jul 26, 2004
Location: Kurt Rhombus is managing the defense...
       

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#432 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 9:55 pm

I want Mitch back since he is one of the few home-growns we have left here. Losing IQ hurt, but it was needed for both. Losing Grimes still sucks. We go through starting SG's like Hogwarts does defense against dark arts.

He also is a good dude. Good heart. i wish he was a little more crazy, like we need a true enforcer. Someone who will scuffle with Embiid or Bam when they try to injure players once they realize playing bball ain't working.
Numbers don't lie, people who use them do
Stand up to all hate
Stand up to Jewish hate
User avatar
RHODEY
RealGM
Posts: 25,301
And1: 22,812
Joined: May 18, 2007
Location: Straight out of a comic book

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#433 » by RHODEY » Sun Jan 5, 2025 10:17 pm

Enzo954 wrote:Just let his fragile ass heal up and unleash him 3 weeks prior to the playoffs.

Im starting to feel like that was the plan all along. Give him enough runaway to get completely hands down healthy. Meanwhile the window for him to reinjure himself is minimized. So basically we rolling into the playoff at full strength. While also maximizing his trade value. Then they trade him in the offseason for a reasonably nice haul. Or maybe if we win a chip - keep him,
8516knicks
General Manager
Posts: 8,595
And1: 6,487
Joined: May 18, 2017
   

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#434 » by 8516knicks » Sun Jan 5, 2025 10:27 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Enzo954 wrote:Just let his fragile ass heal up and unleash him 3 weeks prior to the playoffs.


And then watch him get hurt in the 2nd round.

If the Knicks make it out of the first round that is.


He's the Knicks' Aaron Rogers. 8-)
8516knicks
General Manager
Posts: 8,595
And1: 6,487
Joined: May 18, 2017
   

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#435 » by 8516knicks » Sun Jan 5, 2025 10:30 pm

HerSports85 wrote:
Read on Twitter



:.@IanBegley reports that "several teams" have been inquiring about the health of Mitchell Robinson"

Oh, those Liaoning Flying Leopards are at it again! :lol:
User avatar
WaltFrazier
RealGM
Posts: 34,111
And1: 31,620
Joined: Jan 21, 2006
Location: Ontario Canada
       

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#436 » by WaltFrazier » Mon Jan 6, 2025 6:07 am

GEOLINK wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:

There is no reason we can’t play like this again.
If you look at the lineup, we ran Jalen, Deuce, OG, Hart, Mitch for long stretches of that playoff series against Philly.
We still have ALL OF THOSE PLAYERS on our team. Why can’t we run those guys for certain stretches, while having KAT, precious, Mikal, Cam, Jalen. We have enough, Mitch is absolutely critical to the success of this team.

I miss this man so much.


It's good to watch this video every so often, to remember.
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
spree2kawhi
RealGM
Posts: 12,611
And1: 5,743
Joined: Mar 01, 2005

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#437 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jan 6, 2025 9:08 am

8516knicks wrote:
HerSports85 wrote:
Read on Twitter



:.@IanBegley reports that "several teams" have been inquiring about the health of Mitchell Robinson"

Oh, those Liaoning Flying Leopards are at it again! :lol:

I hope Utah did.
Montmorencie
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,753
And1: 1,190
Joined: Jul 07, 2020
       

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#438 » by Montmorencie » Mon Jan 6, 2025 11:31 am

Can we trade this bum Deandre wannabe Jordan already?

God damn all that waiting and talk for this scrub, that's crazy :lol: I'd give him for a nice cheerleader in an instant
ctorres
RealGM
Posts: 17,790
And1: 6,034
Joined: Jun 04, 2005

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#439 » by ctorres » Mon Jan 6, 2025 12:36 pm

It's 2025.

Don't know have anyone on here who knows someone who knows someone in Mitchell Robinson's camp and can give us a real update on him?

It shouldn't be so hard to get a real report on the guy.
User avatar
Jalen Bluntson
RealGM
Posts: 25,474
And1: 27,159
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#440 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jan 6, 2025 3:09 pm

ctorres wrote:It's 2025.

Don't know have anyone on here who knows someone who knows someone in Mitchell Robinson's camp and can give us a real update on him?

It shouldn't be so hard to get a real report on the guy.


It's aggravating for sure. No clue how far away he is? Just vague comments on his running abilities and no timetable for a return? Surely they have to have a clue. Why it's such a big secret is the mystery. You can't tell me they don't have an estimated date he is able to return. Best and worst case scenario.
:beer: RIP mags

Return to New York Knicks