Trades

[loveshaq007]

I think Lakers need to think quick...

trade DFS, Gabe, vando, hood and wood for butler and love!

this has to be the trade

[WentzerWuver]

What’s your opinion on Jimmy Butler? I dont mind getting him. I think Pat’s gonna ask for a lot from us tho.

Miami got plummeted by a rebuilding team tonight without Jimmy. Pat Riley will want the mother load for him, trust me!

Here's a NBA sports analyst recently proposes the Rockets sending Dillon Brooks, Jabari Smith, Cam Whitmore, Aaron Holiday, a 2025 first-round pick (top-five protected), a 2027 first-round pick and a 2029 first-round pick for Jimmy and Love, which is fair for both teams. No ripoffs like Lakers fans are coming up with. I would personally push for FVV instead of Jabari but whatever.

[SlimShady83]

I think Lakers need to think quick...

trade DFS, Gabe, vando, hood and wood for butler and love!

this has to be the trade

Sorry trying to get the trade to work on Spotrac, Both DFS/Milton have aggregation on their names, basically If you imply the trade you want, you're putting Lakers into the 2nd apron... I don't see Lakers doing this and nor should they.

Butler Is not happening.

[SlimShady83]

If you want Butler.

Watch on YouTube

;t=219s

[Anderson Hunt]

Bulls out: LaVine, Vucevic, Lonzo Ball, Patrick Williams, and Jevon Carter

Bulls in: Butler, Duncan Robinson, Looney, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Gary Payton, Reddish, and Jaxon Hayes

Bulls waive: Torrey Craig, Julian Phillips, and Chris Duarte

PG - Giddy - Dosunmu - Tucker
SG - White - Payton - Robinson
C --- Looney - Smith - Hayes
PF - Hachimura - Vanderbilt - Buzelis
SF - Butler - Terry - Reddish

Heat out: Butler and Duncan Robinson

Heat in: Andrew Wiggins, Kyle Anderson, Kuminga, Podzeimski, Gabe Vincent, and Hood-Schifino

Heat waive: Josh Richardson, Alec Burks, and Kevin Love

PG - Anderson - Vincent - Schifino
SG - Herro - Rozier - Podz
C --- Adebayo - Jovic - Ware
PF - Highsmith - Kuminga - Johnson
SF - Wiggins - Jaquez - Larsson

Warriors out: Andrew Wiggins, Kuminga, Podzeimski, Looney, Gary Payton, and Kyle Anderson

Warriors in: Lonzo Ball, Vucevic, Patrick Williams, and Christian Wood

Warriors sign: Markelle Fultz

PG - Fultz - (Ball) - Schroeder
SG - Curry - Hield - Spencer
C --- Vucevic - Davis - Wood
PF - Green - Williams - Santos
SF - Ball - Moody - Waters

Lakers out: Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Vincent, Hood-Schifino, Jaxon Hayes, Christian Wood, and Reddish.

Lakers in: LaVine and Jevon Carter

Lakers sign: Biyombo, Dwight Howard, Keita Bates-Diop, and Troy Brown Jr.

PG - Reaves - (James) - Milton
SG - Christie - Carter - James
C -- Davis - Biyombo - Howard
PF - Smith - Diop - Brown Jr.
SF - James - LaVine - Knecht

[Anderson Hunt]

I think Lakers need to think quick...

trade DFS, Gabe, vando, hood and wood for butler and love!

this has to be the trade

Not able to trade Finney-Smith with other players. It's against the rules, my friend.

[loveshaq007]

I think Lakers need to think quick...

trade DFS, Gabe, vando, hood and wood for butler and love!

this has to be the trade

Not able to trade Finney-Smith with other players. It's against the rules, my friend.

oh wow... no way. welp it could be a blessing in disguise

the only maybe should be rui to trade. and players for sure that are expendable are vando, Gabe, hood, wood. hayes,

maybe we get involved in a three way and give Gabe and our expiring going to Miami.

[WentzerWuver]

this has to be the trade

Not able to trade Finney-Smith with other players. It's against the rules, my friend.

oh wow... no way. welp it could be a blessing in disguise

the only maybe should be rui to trade. and players for sure that are expendable are vando, Gabe, hood, wood. hayes,

maybe we get involved in a three way and give Gabe and our expiring going to Miami.

Pat Riley does want Gabe back!

[loveshaq007]

I definitely see warriors as the favorites to land butler ...

my target with the expendable contracts is d. Mitchell and Jacob from Toronto... even down for first round pick swaps. those two players is exactly what we need. ...

vando, hood, wood, Gabe, and two FRP swaps (top 12 protected) for two top 20 protected swaps for Jacob and Mitchell! yes


look into trading Vando for PJ Tucker to free up space and use as trade chip

[Showtime:Part2]

Before this trade, we could’ve put together about 25mil worth of expiring contracts. What star/‘needle mover’ is getting paid only 25mil?

This deal is good. It improves a clear area of weakness that should elevate our current ceiling, for minimal cost. Get a better backup C for salary and the remaining two 2nds we have, and I think we’ll be much better off

The point isn’t that you trade dollar for dollar expiring contracts. Easy example here if we went after jimmy butler: dlo, jhs, vando, and rui roughly salary matches jimmy butler and filler (obviously we would have to send out firsts). That’s just one bad contract being shipped out in vando. Now we would have to throw in Vincent and wood, which are less valuable trade pieces than dlos 19mm expiring, thereby making our offer less competitive vs other teams.

Does jimmy butler get us to the level of okc/celtics? Probably not, but there’s still like a 25-35% chance if he gets hot like he has in the playoffs before and/or reverts to form without all the drama. Goes dfs get us to the level of okc/celtics? Uhhh no. What are we playing for here fellas? We got max till next year w bron. You wanna be a guaranteed loss to okc or you wanna try for one last shot? Because if the former is the answer, why are we wasting our time watching games? You’re saying you’re ok with just running out lebrons career in mediocre fashion then sucking for several years after that. Just come back in 7 years then

The Heat is not taking back bad contracts. Most players you thrown out are one dimensuonal players. If they want to stay competitive this season, they are not taking Dlo unless they have an eye to trade him to a third team for upgrade and they may barely receiving some sort of DFS level player (non needle mover) in return at best. If you were Riley, will you do this trade?

You’re missing the point. The dlo contract rolls off whereas now we have to use Vincent or vandos contract in its place. If we are presenting an offer, the worth isn’t in any of these players. The worth is in the draft picks but also freeing up salary. I’m tired of explaining this point over and over in this thread. It seems multiple posters on here can’t seem to grasp the idea of relative value of trade offers and how an expiring is better than a non expiring deadbeat (Vincent, vando)

[zuju]

The point isn’t that you trade dollar for dollar expiring contracts. Easy example here if we went after jimmy butler: dlo, jhs, vando, and rui roughly salary matches jimmy butler and filler (obviously we would have to send out firsts). That’s just one bad contract being shipped out in vando. Now we would have to throw in Vincent and wood, which are less valuable trade pieces than dlos 19mm expiring, thereby making our offer less competitive vs other teams.

Does jimmy butler get us to the level of okc/celtics? Probably not, but there’s still like a 25-35% chance if he gets hot like he has in the playoffs before and/or reverts to form without all the drama. Goes dfs get us to the level of okc/celtics? Uhhh no. What are we playing for here fellas? We got max till next year w bron. You wanna be a guaranteed loss to okc or you wanna try for one last shot? Because if the former is the answer, why are we wasting our time watching games? You’re saying you’re ok with just running out lebrons career in mediocre fashion then sucking for several years after that. Just come back in 7 years then

The Heat is not taking back bad contracts. Most players you thrown out are one dimensuonal players. If they want to stay competitive this season, they are not taking Dlo unless they have an eye to trade him to a third team for upgrade and they may barely receiving some sort of DFS level player (non needle mover) in return at best. If you were Riley, will you do this trade?

You’re missing the point. The dlo contract rolls off whereas now we have to use Vincent or vandos contract in its place. If we are presenting an offer, the worth isn’t in any of these players. The worth is in the draft picks but also freeing up salary. I’m tired of explaining this point over and over in this thread. It seems multiple posters on here can’t seem to grasp the idea of relative value of trade offers and how an expiring is better than a non expiring deadbeat (Vincent, vando)

Our point is, even Dlo is an expiring contract, Heat would not have wanted Dlo at the first place.

[Danny Darko]

Well, DFS seems to be struggling atm, but hopefully this is a break in period.

[stan francisco]

Well, DFS seems to be struggling atm, but hopefully this is a break in period.

I think it is. He’s a brawny role player. Once he settles in and gets comfortable in his new offensive role, let’s hope he’ll flourish like never before.

Defensively, he’s already doing well. We’re +10 with him on the court. He leads the team in that category.

[SlimShady83]

Well, DFS seems to be struggling atm, but hopefully this is a break in period.

I think it is. He’s a brawny role player. Once he settles in and gets comfortable in his new offensive role, let’s hope he’ll flourish like never before.

Defensively, he’s already doing well. We’re +10 with him on the court. He leads the team in that category.

I didn't see the game vs Houston at work. But didn't Rui only get like 13 points 1 reb? DFS had 13 points 5 reb and plays good defense, he making Rui replacable

[WentzerWuver]

Well, DFS seems to be struggling atm, but hopefully this is a break in period.

I think it is. He’s a brawny role player. Once he settles in and gets comfortable in his new offensive role, let’s hope he’ll flourish like never before.

Defensively, he’s already doing well. We’re +10 with him on the court. He leads the team in that category.

I didn't see the game vs Houston at work. But didn't Rui only get like 13 points 1 reb? DFS had 13 points 5 reb and plays good defense, he making Rui replacable

Rui's bargain contract makes him a keeper besides he has some big games on this team. He will come off the bench if not starting as opposed to being traded if that is what you are suggesting.

https://youtu.be/AysjOSgw954?si=xnXFksjZjkYWC_9P

Also DFS will be a UFA after this season and will probably demand twice of much as what Rui is making now which will take this team over the 2nd apron. If we can get a game changer like Kessler for DFS plus pick, it needs to be explored. DFS is just too old to be part of the future once Lebron retires.

[LakersSoul]

Think Lakers pass on oldies and go for youth:

Scenario 1:
JHS + Wood + 2 FRPs

FOR

Kessler

Why?
Utah gets 2 FRPs. Lakers get their D big man and 1 open roster to sign Devonte Graham from SB Lakers while saving money.


Scenario 2:
Cam Johnson + Sharpe

For

Rui + Gabe + Knecht + JHS + 2 FRPs

WHY?
Brooklyn gets 2 serviceable players plus Knecht and 2 FRPs while Lakers get their Big man plus best wing and 2 open slots. One goes to add Graham and 1 open for a later buyout.

Lakers FO decides to build franchise around AD/AR plus Kessler or Cam/Sharpe after Bron retires.

[SlimShady83]

Think Lakers pass on oldies and go for youth:

Scenario 1:
JHS + Wood + 2 FRPs

FOR

Kessler

Why?
Utah gets 2 FRPs. Lakers get their D big man and 1 open roster to sign Devonte Graham from SB Lakers while saving money.

It's a working progress, see sig LOL. Most don't want to Include the 2pic, all fair but i'm all In on Kessler/Collins and/or Sexton - I don't think Kessler alone Is worth 2 pics, but that's why I'm Including Collins or Sexton or even JC really, I just want Kessler

Eventually something will happen, sooner or later, what that something Is, who knows but something needs to happen Feb 7th feels like a long time away

[KuzControl]

Rui's bargain contract makes him a keeper besides he has some big games on this team. He will come off the bench if not starting as opposed to being traded if that is what you are suggesting.

https://youtu.be/AysjOSgw954?si=xnXFksjZjkYWC_9P

Also DFS will be a UFA after this season and will probably demand twice of much as what Rui is making now which will take this team over the 2nd apron. If we can get a game changer like Kessler for DFS plus pick, it needs to be explored. DFS is just too old to be part of the future once Lebron retires.

Lol we’re not trading DFS, and Rui is barely a bargain contract

[WentzerWuver]

Rui's bargain contract makes him a keeper besides he has some big games on this team. He will come off the bench if not starting as opposed to being traded if that is what you are suggesting.

https://youtu.be/AysjOSgw954?si=xnXFksjZjkYWC_9P

Also DFS will be a UFA after this season and will probably demand twice of much as what Rui is making now which will take this team over the 2nd apron. If we can get a game changer like Kessler for DFS plus pick, it needs to be explored. DFS is just too old to be part of the future once Lebron retires.

Lol we’re not trading DFS, and Rui is barely a bargain contract

You are not part of the team, so how do you know? If the Heat wants DFS plus fillers for Jimmy, the Lakers would pack his bag and fly him there in business class like pronto to seal the deal before Riley changes his mind Lol

[KuzControl]

Rui's bargain contract makes him a keeper besides he has some big games on this team. He will come off the bench if not starting as opposed to being traded if that is what you are suggesting.

https://youtu.be/AysjOSgw954?si=xnXFksjZjkYWC_9P

Also DFS will be a UFA after this season and will probably demand twice of much as what Rui is making now which will take this team over the 2nd apron. If we can get a game changer like Kessler for DFS plus pick, it needs to be explored. DFS is just too old to be part of the future once Lebron retires.

Lol we’re not trading DFS, and Rui is barely a bargain contract

You are not part of the team, so how do you know? If the Heat wants DFS plus fillers for Jimmy, the Lakers would pack his bag and fly him there in business class like pronto to seal the deal before Riley changes his mind Lol

Except we can’t aggregate his salary in a trade…