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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1861 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jan 6, 2025 7:36 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:I also blame the FO for not utilizing the 24th and 25th picks properly. We could’ve easily drafted 2 bench contributors. Instead we punted the 1st pick and took a 19 year old Dadiet with the other. I understand the strategy with Dadiet but it made no sense to punt the 24th pick. A good bench player could’ve been taken there.

We’ve punted a lot of picks over the years and passed up on good talent in the process.

Bingo. Luxury pick by a team that couldn't afford it. Decided to take a weird flyer on French Knox
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Post#1862 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jan 6, 2025 7:37 pm

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Post#1863 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon Jan 6, 2025 9:10 pm

1 hour of deliberations to come to the obvious conclusion that the God MJ is the best trade target and our only hope to win championship

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Post#1864 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jan 6, 2025 9:20 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Trade Brunson


Brunson for Lonzo Ball. That way we can skip to the future and save Brunson's career.
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Post#1865 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Jan 6, 2025 9:37 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Spree2Houston wrote:I also blame the FO for not utilizing the 24th and 25th picks properly. We could’ve easily drafted 2 bench contributors. Instead we punted the 1st pick and took a 19 year old Dadiet with the other. I understand the strategy with Dadiet but it made no sense to punt the 24th pick. A good bench player could’ve been taken there.

We’ve punted a lot of picks over the years and passed up on good talent in the process.

Bingo. Luxury pick by a team that couldn't afford it. Decided to take a weird flyer on French Knox


Think there was an article posted a while back about the cap gymnastics required to get KAT. They got Dadiet to take 80% of the rookie scale, which was key to the deal (to be fair, they paid his exit fee). If the cap weren't an issue, we probably would have grabbed Dunn and probably Kolek in that spot. Then again, if the cap weren't an issue, we'd still have Randle probably.
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Post#1866 » by douggood » Mon Jan 6, 2025 9:54 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Spree2Houston wrote:I also blame the FO for not utilizing the 24th and 25th picks properly. We could’ve easily drafted 2 bench contributors. Instead we punted the 1st pick and took a 19 year old Dadiet with the other. I understand the strategy with Dadiet but it made no sense to punt the 24th pick. A good bench player could’ve been taken there.

We’ve punted a lot of picks over the years and passed up on good talent in the process.

Bingo. Luxury pick by a team that couldn't afford it. Decided to take a weird flyer on French Knox


Think there was an article posted a while back about the cap gymnastics required to get KAT. They got Dadiet to take 80% of the rookie scale, which was key to the deal (to be fair, they paid his exit fee). If the cap weren't an issue, we probably would have grabbed Dunn and probably Kolek in that spot. Then again, if the cap weren't an issue, we'd still have Randle probably.

kat trade happened 3 months after the draft, one didnt hinge on the other. though it did help, but the kat trade would have happened none the less.
knicks paid 850k buyout, dadiet took a 900k discount, (note it was only for 1 year) his salary jumps to regular 120% of rookie scale starting next year)
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Post#1867 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Jan 6, 2025 10:05 pm

douggood wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Bingo. Luxury pick by a team that couldn't afford it. Decided to take a weird flyer on French Knox


Think there was an article posted a while back about the cap gymnastics required to get KAT. They got Dadiet to take 80% of the rookie scale, which was key to the deal (to be fair, they paid his exit fee). If the cap weren't an issue, we probably would have grabbed Dunn and probably Kolek in that spot. Then again, if the cap weren't an issue, we'd still have Randle probably.

kat trade happened 3 months after the draft, one didnt hinge on the other. though it did help, but the kat trade would have happened none the less.
knicks paid 850k buyout, dadiet took a 900k discount, (note it was only for 1 year) his salary jumps to regular 120% of rookie scale starting next year)


Hmm this is the article I was referencing.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5834911/2024/10/11/karl-anthony-towns-trade-how-it-happened/

If Dadiet had signed a typical first-round contract, then the Knicks would not have Karl-Anthony Towns today — or, at least, they could not have acquired Towns the way they did.

The weekend before the preseason began, New York agreed to its second colossal transaction of the summer, sending Julius Randle and Donte DiVincenzo to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Towns, a man the Knicks had kept in the corner of their sightline for years. But the trade hardly ended with those three people.

Inside a league littered with talk of aprons, salary-cap eccentricities and a longer list of don’ts than dos, the Knicks have mastered the minutiae. The construction of the Bridges trade, which was completed in July, hard-capped New York’s 2024-25 payroll at $188.9 million, a threshold called the second apron. After the Towns deal, the Knicks project to be just $335,000 short of that number once the regular season begins.

Had Dadiet taken $2.7 million instead of $1.8 million — which the Knicks made up for by paying Dadiet’s $850,000 buyout in Germany, a deposit that does not count against the cap — the Towns trade would have sent them above the second apron and thus not been allowed by the league.

...

The Knicks’ front office, ever since taking over the franchise in 2020, has become infatuated with marginal value, an obsession that emerged long before its creativity with Dadiet. The Knicks have prioritized contracts that descend year over year, handing one to Jalen Brunson and another to Robinson. If either of those players had signed deals that included conventional, annual raises, the team wouldn’t have had this room for Towns.

On the same night they drafted Dadiet, the Knicks moved their other pick out of the first round. The following afternoon, they traded back up to choose Tyler Kolek, their target all along, in the second round.

...

Rose and company are still playing the salary-cap game. The Knicks employ 12 players on guaranteed contracts and, by league rule, will have to keep at least two more into the regular season. Training camp invitee Landry Shamet will likely remain, league sources said. The other spot, because the team is up against the hard cap, will have to go to a rookie on a minimum salary.

New York has treaded so close to the second apron that most training camp invitees can’t even practice, let alone play in games. If they are on Exhibit 10 deals, which allow the Knicks to keep their G League rights after releasing them, and they get hurt during team activities, their contracts become guaranteed, which would throw off the financials.
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Post#1868 » by douggood » Mon Jan 6, 2025 10:33 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:
douggood wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
Think there was an article posted a while back about the cap gymnastics required to get KAT. They got Dadiet to take 80% of the rookie scale, which was key to the deal (to be fair, they paid his exit fee). If the cap weren't an issue, we probably would have grabbed Dunn and probably Kolek in that spot. Then again, if the cap weren't an issue, we'd still have Randle probably.

kat trade happened 3 months after the draft, one didnt hinge on the other. though it did help, but the kat trade would have happened none the less.
knicks paid 850k buyout, dadiet took a 900k discount, (note it was only for 1 year) his salary jumps to regular 120% of rookie scale starting next year)


Hmm this is the article I was referencing.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5834911/2024/10/11/karl-anthony-towns-trade-how-it-happened/

If Dadiet had signed a typical first-round contract, then the Knicks would not have Karl-Anthony Towns today — or, at least, they could not have acquired Towns the way they did.

The weekend before the preseason began, New York agreed to its second colossal transaction of the summer, sending Julius Randle and Donte DiVincenzo to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Towns, a man the Knicks had kept in the corner of their sightline for years. But the trade hardly ended with those three people.

Inside a league littered with talk of aprons, salary-cap eccentricities and a longer list of don’ts than dos, the Knicks have mastered the minutiae. The construction of the Bridges trade, which was completed in July, hard-capped New York’s 2024-25 payroll at $188.9 million, a threshold called the second apron. After the Towns deal, the Knicks project to be just $335,000 short of that number once the regular season begins.

Had Dadiet taken $2.7 million instead of $1.8 million — which the Knicks made up for by paying Dadiet’s $850,000 buyout in Germany, a deposit that does not count against the cap — the Towns trade would have sent them above the second apron and thus not been allowed by the league.

...

The Knicks’ front office, ever since taking over the franchise in 2020, has become infatuated with marginal value, an obsession that emerged long before its creativity with Dadiet. The Knicks have prioritized contracts that descend year over year, handing one to Jalen Brunson and another to Robinson. If either of those players had signed deals that included conventional, annual raises, the team wouldn’t have had this room for Towns.

On the same night they drafted Dadiet, the Knicks moved their other pick out of the first round. The following afternoon, they traded back up to choose Tyler Kolek, their target all along, in the second round.

...

Rose and company are still playing the salary-cap game. The Knicks employ 12 players on guaranteed contracts and, by league rule, will have to keep at least two more into the regular season. Training camp invitee Landry Shamet will likely remain, league sources said. The other spot, because the team is up against the hard cap, will have to go to a rookie on a minimum salary.

New York has treaded so close to the second apron that most training camp invitees can’t even practice, let alone play in games. If they are on Exhibit 10 deals, which allow the Knicks to keep their G League rights after releasing them, and they get hurt during team activities, their contracts become guaranteed, which would throw off the financials.

the knicks drafting dadiet and signing him below market, was not made with a move 3 months in advance in mind. let alone the the bridges trade in between. sure that 900k helped, but they might have done the kat trade another with other pieces.
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Post#1869 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Mon Jan 6, 2025 11:05 pm

Dadiet and Kolek are about as good as you could expect to do with two picks in the mid 20s. They aren't the problem. Thibs is.

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Post#1870 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jan 6, 2025 11:08 pm

douggood wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
douggood wrote:kat trade happened 3 months after the draft, one didnt hinge on the other. though it did help, but the kat trade would have happened none the less.
knicks paid 850k buyout, dadiet took a 900k discount, (note it was only for 1 year) his salary jumps to regular 120% of rookie scale starting next year)


Hmm this is the article I was referencing.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5834911/2024/10/11/karl-anthony-towns-trade-how-it-happened/

If Dadiet had signed a typical first-round contract, then the Knicks would not have Karl-Anthony Towns today — or, at least, they could not have acquired Towns the way they did.

The weekend before the preseason began, New York agreed to its second colossal transaction of the summer, sending Julius Randle and Donte DiVincenzo to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Towns, a man the Knicks had kept in the corner of their sightline for years. But the trade hardly ended with those three people.

Inside a league littered with talk of aprons, salary-cap eccentricities and a longer list of don’ts than dos, the Knicks have mastered the minutiae. The construction of the Bridges trade, which was completed in July, hard-capped New York’s 2024-25 payroll at $188.9 million, a threshold called the second apron. After the Towns deal, the Knicks project to be just $335,000 short of that number once the regular season begins.

Had Dadiet taken $2.7 million instead of $1.8 million — which the Knicks made up for by paying Dadiet’s $850,000 buyout in Germany, a deposit that does not count against the cap — the Towns trade would have sent them above the second apron and thus not been allowed by the league.

...

The Knicks’ front office, ever since taking over the franchise in 2020, has become infatuated with marginal value, an obsession that emerged long before its creativity with Dadiet. The Knicks have prioritized contracts that descend year over year, handing one to Jalen Brunson and another to Robinson. If either of those players had signed deals that included conventional, annual raises, the team wouldn’t have had this room for Towns.

On the same night they drafted Dadiet, the Knicks moved their other pick out of the first round. The following afternoon, they traded back up to choose Tyler Kolek, their target all along, in the second round.

...

Rose and company are still playing the salary-cap game. The Knicks employ 12 players on guaranteed contracts and, by league rule, will have to keep at least two more into the regular season. Training camp invitee Landry Shamet will likely remain, league sources said. The other spot, because the team is up against the hard cap, will have to go to a rookie on a minimum salary.

New York has treaded so close to the second apron that most training camp invitees can’t even practice, let alone play in games. If they are on Exhibit 10 deals, which allow the Knicks to keep their G League rights after releasing them, and they get hurt during team activities, their contracts become guaranteed, which would throw off the financials.

the knicks drafting dadiet and signing him below market, was not made with a move 3 months in advance in mind. let alone the the bridges trade in between. sure that 900k helped, but they might have done the kat trade another with other pieces.


EXACTLY. That article is just wrong. They paid his buy-out and took it out of his pocket. Period end of story. He wanted to come over immediately so, they made him sacrifice the money it cost to do that. It has nothing to do with anything else.
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Post#1871 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Mon Jan 6, 2025 11:12 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
douggood wrote:

the knicks drafting dadiet and signing him below market, was not made with a move 3 months in advance in mind. let alone the the bridges trade in between. sure that 900k helped, but they might have done the kat trade another with other pieces.


EXACTLY. That article is just wrong. They paid his buy-out and took it out of his pocket. Period end of story. He wanted to come over immediately so, they made him sacrifice the money it cost to do that. It has nothing to do with anything else.

Agreed it was kinda a "fine" - but otoh the kid made sure he got to the league in some form. But it really does look like Aller's fingerprints all over it as well in terms of saving nickels here and there until you have a quarter.
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Post#1872 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Mon Jan 6, 2025 11:28 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Trade Brunson

Let's work in a fantasy universe where Thibs hasn't already just ended KAT's career and he's going to be 1A/1B. And the other GMs are all blissed out on E and will let you make any trade you like (apart from stupid **** like Victor or Chet), but you have to respect the CBA/apron. Who would you trade JB for? His salary is only $25m. How about JB and French KK for Deni and Thybulle? JB and Mitch for Ingram and Herb Jones?
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Post#1873 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Jan 7, 2025 12:06 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
douggood wrote:the knicks drafting dadiet and signing him below market, was not made with a move 3 months in advance in mind. let alone the the bridges trade in between. sure that 900k helped, but they might have done the kat trade another with other pieces.


EXACTLY. That article is just wrong. They paid his buy-out and took it out of his pocket. Period end of story. He wanted to come over immediately so, they made him sacrifice the money it cost to do that. It has nothing to do with anything else.

Agreed it was kinda a "fine" - but otoh the kid made sure he got to the league in some form. But it really does look like Aller's fingerprints all over it as well in terms of saving nickels here and there until you have a quarter.

The article is 100% legit. Most rookies are signed right away, we waited because the front office knew what they had cooking.
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Post#1874 » by douggood » Tue Jan 7, 2025 12:07 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
EXACTLY. That article is just wrong. They paid his buy-out and took it out of his pocket. Period end of story. He wanted to come over immediately so, they made him sacrifice the money it cost to do that. It has nothing to do with anything else.

Agreed it was kinda a "fine" - but otoh the kid made sure he got to the league in some form. But it really does look like Aller's fingerprints all over it as well in terms of saving nickels here and there until you have a quarter.

The article is 100% legit. Most rookies are signed right away, we waited because the front office knew what they had cooking.

they singed him same time as other rookies sign, just before summer league. was official jul 5th
https://www.nba.com/knicks/news/pacome-dadiet-signed-by-knicks

also about that article, if, if and ifs, what if the 3 players knicks s&t to charlotte had signed somewhere else, reading stuff into after the fact.
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Post#1875 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Jan 7, 2025 12:12 am

douggood wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Agreed it was kinda a "fine" - but otoh the kid made sure he got to the league in some form. But it really does look like Aller's fingerprints all over it as well in terms of saving nickels here and there until you have a quarter.

The article is 100% legit. Most rookies are signed right away, we waited because the front office knew what they had cooking.

they singed him same time as other rookies sign, just before summer league. was official jul 5th
https://www.nba.com/knicks/news/pacome-dadiet-signed-by-knicks

also about that article, if, if and ifs, what if the 3 players knicks s&t to charlotte had signed somewhere else, reading stuff into after the fact.

https://sny.tv/articles/knicks-nba-draft-night-moves-bit-more-financial-flexibility
They are saying here that it was to try to get back iHart.
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Post#1876 » by douggood » Tue Jan 7, 2025 12:14 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
douggood wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:The article is 100% legit. Most rookies are signed right away, we waited because the front office knew what they had cooking.

they singed him same time as other rookies sign, just before summer league. was official jul 5th
https://www.nba.com/knicks/news/pacome-dadiet-signed-by-knicks

also about that article, if, if and ifs, what if the 3 players knicks s&t to charlotte had signed somewhere else, reading stuff into after the fact.

https://sny.tv/articles/knicks-nba-draft-night-moves-bit-more-financial-flexibility
They are saying here that it was to try to get back iHart.

that article assumed that dadiet was a stash pick.
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Post#1877 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Jan 7, 2025 12:15 am

douggood wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
douggood wrote:they singed him same time as other rookies sign, just before summer league. was official jul 5th
https://www.nba.com/knicks/news/pacome-dadiet-signed-by-knicks

also about that article, if, if and ifs, what if the 3 players knicks s&t to charlotte had signed somewhere else, reading stuff into after the fact.

https://sny.tv/articles/knicks-nba-draft-night-moves-bit-more-financial-flexibility
They are saying here that it was to try to get back iHart.

that article assumed that dadiet was a stash pick.

financial flexibility.
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Post#1878 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Jan 7, 2025 12:19 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
EXACTLY. That article is just wrong. They paid his buy-out and took it out of his pocket. Period end of story. He wanted to come over immediately so, they made him sacrifice the money it cost to do that. It has nothing to do with anything else.

Agreed it was kinda a "fine" - but otoh the kid made sure he got to the league in some form. But it really does look like Aller's fingerprints all over it as well in terms of saving nickels here and there until you have a quarter.

The article is 100% legit. Most rookies are signed right away, we waited because the front office knew what they had cooking.


Ok. Whatever you say. I just think the reduction in salary was the result of the buyout. Which is probably why they drafted him. Because his cap hold would have been more if they stashed him. They wouldn't have that option with a US born player. They were saving money for whatever they wanted to do down the road. It wouldn't have prevented them from working out the KAT trade that wasn't happening yet. Did they already know they were trading for KAT BEFORE draft night? I doubt that but, whatever.
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Post#1879 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Jan 7, 2025 12:23 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Agreed it was kinda a "fine" - but otoh the kid made sure he got to the league in some form. But it really does look like Aller's fingerprints all over it as well in terms of saving nickels here and there until you have a quarter.

The article is 100% legit. Most rookies are signed right away, we waited because the front office knew what they had cooking.


Ok. Whatever you say. I just think the reduction in salary was the result of the buyout. Which is probably why they drafted him. Because his cap hold would have been more if they stashed him. They wouldn't have that option with a US born player. They were saving money for whatever they wanted to do down the road. It wouldn't have prevented them from working out the KAT trade that wasn't happening yet. Did they already know they were trading for KAT BEFORE draft night? I doubt that but, whatever.


Knicks have had KAT on their radar. Not a secret. Last deadline there were rumors. We have enough connections with the Wolves that I am 100% sure that iHart resign was 1a and Towns was 1b.
Everything we did on draft night was to create cap space. So to that point, yes, Diadet being willing to take less was 100% essential in taking him.
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Post#1880 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Tue Jan 7, 2025 12:24 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Agreed it was kinda a "fine" - but otoh the kid made sure he got to the league in some form. But it really does look like Aller's fingerprints all over it as well in terms of saving nickels here and there until you have a quarter.

The article is 100% legit. Most rookies are signed right away, we waited because the front office knew what they had cooking.


Ok. Whatever you say. I just think the reduction in salary was the result of the buyout. Which is probably why they drafted him. Because his cap hold would have been more if they stashed him. They wouldn't have that option with a US born player. They were saving money for whatever they wanted to do down the road. It wouldn't have prevented them from working out the KAT trade that wasn't happening yet. Did they already know they were trading for KAT BEFORE draft night? I doubt that but, whatever.

No idea how much they may have war-gamed a KAT trade. One imagines a **** tonne, but who can tell.

The buy-out isn't really relevant imo, they have to sign the FRP if he wants to come and they have to pay the buy-out - which would have been the same whatever contract they gave Dadiet. So reducing Dadiet's salary to the minimum is a move to reduce spending.

Otoh, they gave TyKo a non-minimum salary. So everything is a little weird.

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