2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation

[bwgood77]

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This isn't really relevant. Miami will trade him to the place that makes most sense to them depending on their return. I imagine a team like Memphis or maybe some others would give him another year or extension for maybe not as much money, but he will not have a ton of leverage unless he wants to try to test FA when only a few teams like Brooklyn and Washington have cap space (and I doubt they want any part of Jimmy). He does have the leverage of saying he won't re-sign there but that is only hurting himself. They could still S&T him.

It may be possible for another team to S&T him to us..not sure if that's allowed at the 2nd apron. But we'd have to make it worth their while. I can't see Memphis wanting Beal.

Memphis is probably offering Smart plus a pick and a couple more depth guys. They have a lot of guys/picks. They were willing to trade 4 for Bridges. A lineup of Ja/Bane/Butler/JJJ/Edey is a pretty damn good one to compete with OKC. Butler could even be the main guy when Ja is out, but JJJ had no problem filling that role against us.

[DirtyDez]

Jimmy is doing the same thing KD did except the Suns don’t have assets this time around. I really don’t see this ending with anyone getting what they want.,

[Fo-Real]

Jimmy is doing the same thing KD did except the Suns don’t have assets this time around. I really don’t see this ending with anyone getting what they want.,

If the Beal who played last night can show back up every now and then, i'm cool keeping him.

[bwgood77]

This team is now starting to feel like that Kobe team after he had won his last finals, where they got Nash and Howard. Except they were actually pretty good and made the playoffs and were favored vs Dirk's Mavs before he upset them and they kind of went downhill after that.

[bwgood77]

Hey, I just found another big name we can get for the minimum this summer to be our new PG and defensive stopper along with Dunn.

Ben Simmons. He's a FA.

I actually wouldn't be opposed at the minimum if we had a stretch 5. As a matter of fact we could probably just run KD at C and have Simmons guard Cs.

Though KD may not like playing with him.

Though of course I hope we blow it up, even though we all know that's not gonna happen.

[dremill24]

Jimmy is doing the same thing KD did except the Suns don’t have assets this time around. I really don’t see this ending with anyone getting what they want.,

If the Beal who played last night can show back up every now and then, i'm cool keeping him.

I mean that Beal already does show up every now and then, no?

[TeamTragic]

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Jimmy told the Grizzlies not interested

[Fo-Real]

Jimmy is doing the same thing KD did except the Suns don’t have assets this time around. I really don’t see this ending with anyone getting what they want.,

If the Beal who played last night can show back up every now and then, i'm cool keeping him.

I mean that Beal already does show up every now and then, no?

Last night was a bit diffrent. First time we saw full attack Brad I think.

[TeamTragic]

If the Beal who played last night can show back up every now and then, i'm cool keeping him.

I mean that Beal already does show up every now and then, no?

Last night was a bit different. First time we saw full attack Brad I think.

Beal responded immediately after he went on the trade block and was benched.

[dremill24]

If the Beal who played last night can show back up every now and then, i'm cool keeping him.

I mean that Beal already does show up every now and then, no?

Last night was a bit diffrent. First time we saw full attack Brad I think.

I get it...just think folks might be letting recency and the narrative of the change muddy up the view

[BobbieL]

I mean that Beal already does show up every now and then, no?

Last night was a bit different. First time we saw full attack Brad I think.

Beal responded immediately after he went on the trade block and was benched.

Right -- that was all last night one. Emotion, adrenalin, whatever

Ishbia is going to make a trade like Allen to get another pick or something -- he will ship that pick and the 2031 for Butler

Ishbia will sign Butler long term

and the team will implode

There are two courses of action Ishbia can take -- -one will be closer to winning a championship than the other in my opinion. But we shall see I guess

[Saberestar]

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Jimmy Butler is forcing his way to the Phoenix Suns.

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This isn't really relevant. Miami will trade him to the place that makes most sense to them depending on their return. I imagine a team like Memphis or maybe some others would give him another year or extension for maybe not as much money, but he will not have a ton of leverage unless he wants to try to test FA when only a few teams like Brooklyn and Washington have cap space (and I doubt they want any part of Jimmy). He does have the leverage of saying he won't re-sign there but that is only hurting himself. They could still S&T him.

It may be possible for another team to S&T him to us..not sure if that's allowed at the 2nd apron. But we'd have to make it worth their while. I can't see Memphis wanting Beal.

Memphis is probably offering Smart plus a pick and a couple more depth guys. They have a lot of guys/picks. They were willing to trade 4 for Bridges. A lineup of Ja/Bane/Butler/JJJ/Edey is a pretty damn good one to compete with OKC. Butler could even be the main guy when Ja is out, but JJJ had no problem filling that role against us.

The Grizzlies will no trade for Butler, he doesn't want to play for them.

No team is crazy enough to give up assets to get a player who is gonna be disgruntled on/off the court and go away at the end of the season.

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[mademan]

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Jimmy Butler is forcing his way to the Phoenix Suns.

That's what he wants. But there's 3 other parties here with a say (PHX, MIA, Beal). PHX might want him too, but does PHX want him at the cost of 31 1st/Dunn/Ighodaro? And that still leaves 2 other parties here

[sunsbg]

It's like this guy bought the team.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6jW-GcQ4rFE

[bwgood77]

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This isn't really relevant. Miami will trade him to the place that makes most sense to them depending on their return. I imagine a team like Memphis or maybe some others would give him another year or extension for maybe not as much money, but he will not have a ton of leverage unless he wants to try to test FA when only a few teams like Brooklyn and Washington have cap space (and I doubt they want any part of Jimmy). He does have the leverage of saying he won't re-sign there but that is only hurting himself. They could still S&T him.

It may be possible for another team to S&T him to us..not sure if that's allowed at the 2nd apron. But we'd have to make it worth their while. I can't see Memphis wanting Beal.

Memphis is probably offering Smart plus a pick and a couple more depth guys. They have a lot of guys/picks. They were willing to trade 4 for Bridges. A lineup of Ja/Bane/Butler/JJJ/Edey is a pretty damn good one to compete with OKC. Butler could even be the main guy when Ja is out, but JJJ had no problem filling that role against us.

The Grizzlies will no trade for Butler, he doesn't want to play for them.

No team is crazy enough to give up assets to get a player who is gonna be disgruntled on/off the court and go away at the end of the season.

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Yeah, I saw that after my comment and my post was in regards to us being the only ones to give him a really lucrative multi year offer (at least according to Sidery).

Then I saw that they had contacted Memphis. I don't think a team would trade for him if he's said he didn't want to go there, or at least not give up a lot. But he doesn't have a ton of leverage really. Unless he wants to lose out on a bunch of money. I don't know that Miami is the type of team to take less for him just because he's turned off other teams from going for him.

It's dumb he doesn't want to play in Memphis. His championship chances are a hell of a lot better there. Sure it's not the nice weather party area Phx/Scottsdale is, and maybe that's all he cares about given he wants to be in a big city like Dallas, Houston, Phx or the Bay area.

I really can't stand players that are acting like him. He's almost like Jae was with us at this point. I liked Butler as a player too, except for fantasy purposes since he rarely shoots 3s.

[bwgood77]

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Jimmy Butler is forcing his way to the Phoenix Suns.

That's what he wants. But there's 3 other parties here with a say (PHX, MIA, Beal). PHX might want him too, but does PHX want him at the cost of 31 1st/Dunn/Ighodaro? And that still leaves 2 other parties here

I wouldn't give up either the 31 1st or Dunn. But Ishbia eventually would, no question. He's had his head up his ass since he bought the team.

Jimmy only wants to come here because he knows we will pay him the most.

[Saberestar]

It's like this guy bought the team.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6jW-GcQ4rFE

[Saberestar]

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Jimmy Butler is forcing his way to the Phoenix Suns.

That's what he wants. But there's 3 other parties here with a say (PHX, MIA, Beal). PHX might want him too, but does PHX want him at the cost of 31 1st/Dunn/Ighodaro? And that still leaves 2 other parties here

Butler wants. PHX wants. Beal wants.

It’s just the Heat accepting the best offer that they will have for Butler.

I doubt the Suns trade Dunn because he is showing huge impact in his rookie season, I wouldn't trade him for sure.

I would trade 2031 unprotected and our 3 2nds available. And I would be OK trading Oso Ighodaro if it's much needed to close the deal.

[DirtyDez]

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Jimmy Butler is forcing his way to the Phoenix Suns.

That's what he wants. But there's 3 other parties here with a say (PHX, MIA, Beal). PHX might want him too, but does PHX want him at the cost of 31 1st/Dunn/Ighodaro? And that still leaves 2 other parties here

I wouldn't give up either the 31 1st or Dunn. But Ishbia eventually would, no question. He's had his head up his ass since he bought the team.

Jimmy only wants to come here because he knows we will pay him the most.

If Ishbia trades Dunn he’ll be worse owner than Sarver in my eyes. You can be a good person, be a positive pillar in the community, spend to win and still run your franchise into the gutter with stupid decisions. It’s not a mutually exclusive circumstance.