Raptors/Kings

[sackings916]

Raptors trade:
Bruce Brown
Kelly Olynyk

Kings trade:
Kevin Huerter
Trey Lyles
Colby Jones
Alex Len
Spurs 2025 2nd rd pick

Why for TO: They get a pick, a prospect in Jones and 2 shooters to space the floor

Why for Sac: they add wing/frontcourt depth

[Godaddycurse]

thats a no for the raptors. we can get more elsewhere without having to eat huerter's extra year.

[Texas Chuck]

Comes down to Jones I think. If they think he has some merit then good deal for them to take on a little (very playable) salary for next year for him and a 2nd. If not, the 2nd probably doesn't entice them to add the money.

If Brown is healthy though the Kings should be willing to add another 2nd and see if they will bite at that point.

[Godaddycurse]

Comes down to Jones I think. If they think he has some merit then good deal for them to take on a little (very playable) salary for next year for him and a 2nd. If not, the 2nd probably doesn't entice them to add the money.

If Brown is healthy though the Kings should be willing to add another 2nd and see if they will bite at that point.

we have too many natural SGs on the roster as it stands. dont think theres any interest in swapping out olynyk for another

[Texas Chuck]

Comes down to Jones I think. If they think he has some merit then good deal for them to take on a little (very playable) salary for next year for him and a 2nd. If not, the 2nd probably doesn't entice them to add the money.

If Brown is healthy though the Kings should be willing to add another 2nd and see if they will bite at that point.

we have too many natural SGs on the roster as it stands. dont think theres any interest in swapping out olynyk for another

That's an easy problem to solve in the off-season and Toronto shouldn't want to win any more games this year. I mean if its a prospect they like, that and a 2nd or two to take on a little salary on a guy they could easily flip for a backup big in the off-season if they feel ready to compete for the playoffs.

[sackings916]

Comes down to Jones I think. If they think he has some merit then good deal for them to take on a little (very playable) salary for next year for him and a 2nd. If not, the 2nd probably doesn't entice them to add the money.

If Brown is healthy though the Kings should be willing to add another 2nd and see if they will bite at that point.

we have too many natural SGs on the roster as it stands. dont think theres any interest in swapping out olynyk for another

Colby can handle the ball and also defend some 1/2/3. He’s a decent prospect but probably gonna come down to if his outside shot develops.

[oldncreaky]

Comes down to Jones I think. If they think he has some merit then good deal for them to take on a little (very playable) salary for next year for him and a 2nd. If not, the 2nd probably doesn't entice them to add the money.

If Brown is healthy though the Kings should be willing to add another 2nd and see if they will bite at that point.

we have too many natural SGs on the roster as it stands. dont think theres any interest in swapping out olynyk for another

Colby can handle the ball and also defend some 1/2/3. He’s a decent prospect but probably gonna come down to if his outside shot develops.

Thanks for the description

I think Toronto already has at least 6 of the SG/SF players on rookie-contracts who are described as "decent prospect but probably gonna come down to if his outside shot develops" -- which is why godaddy said not worth it

[jayjaysee]

I see no way Sac goes over the tax. And this deal puts them over the first apron once they sign 2 players…

[Mr Swagtastic]

I don't hate this but I don't really like it. Colby Jones is a raw prospect we have two guys in Shed and Walter who both play similar roles and Masai really likes, plus you have Mitchell whose been good. I don't see the path for Colby Jones unless Toronto moves one of Shed or Mitchell.

Len probably gets bought out immediately and Lyles is decent but I just don't see Toronto taking the extra year of Kevin Heurters deal at nearly $20 million especially for a team already struggling with salary

[LightTheBeam]

I'd prefer to keep Lyles.

And honestly I've moved on from Bruce Brown. Keon Ellis is in that role, and now Devin Carter is back id rather play him.

My offer would be

Huerter + 2 2nds for Olynyk and whatever non bad salary Toronto wanted to include

Huerter + Colby + Len + 2 2nds for Olynyk + Boucher.

[Godaddycurse]

I'd prefer to keep Lyles.

And honestly I've moved on from Bruce Brown. Keon Ellis is in that role, and now Devin Carter is back id rather play him.

My offer would be

Huerter + 2 2nds for Olynyk and whatever non bad salary Toronto wanted to include

Huerter + Colby + Len + 2 2nds for Olynyk + Boucher.

Pass

[sackings916]

I'd prefer to keep Lyles.

And honestly I've moved on from Bruce Brown. Keon Ellis is in that role, and now Devin Carter is back id rather play him.

My offer would be

Huerter + 2 2nds for Olynyk and whatever non bad salary Toronto wanted to include

Huerter + Colby + Len + 2 2nds for Olynyk + Boucher.

Bruce Brown is listed at 6’4 but plays like he’s 6’8. There’s room for all 3 Carter, Ellis and Brown off the bench to cover 1-3 and some 4s depending on matchup.

[LightTheBeam]

I'd prefer to keep Lyles.

And honestly I've moved on from Bruce Brown. Keon Ellis is in that role, and now Devin Carter is back id rather play him.

My offer would be

Huerter + 2 2nds for Olynyk and whatever non bad salary Toronto wanted to include

Huerter + Colby + Len + 2 2nds for Olynyk + Boucher.

Bruce Brown is listed at 6’4 but plays like he’s 6’8. There’s room for all 3 Carter, Ellis and Brown off the bench to cover 1-3 and some 4s depending on matchup.

Don't get me wrong. I'd still swap Huerter + 2nds for Bruce. But he's just not my ideal target. Ofc anything to get Huerter off my team.

[Mr Swagtastic]

I'd prefer to keep Lyles.

And honestly I've moved on from Bruce Brown. Keon Ellis is in that role, and now Devin Carter is back id rather play him.

My offer would be

Huerter + 2 2nds for Olynyk and whatever non bad salary Toronto wanted to include

Huerter + Colby + Len + 2 2nds for Olynyk + Boucher.

Toronto has no real bad salary. Olynik isn't bad, Brown and Boucher are useful and both are expiring deals. Only thing is Quickley is overpaid by a few million each year but Masai jumped the gun not taking a shot he was signed to an offer sheet and he had to match

First deal does nothing for Toronto it actually adds bad salary next year. We don't want Huerter

[LightTheBeam]

I'd prefer to keep Lyles.

And honestly I've moved on from Bruce Brown. Keon Ellis is in that role, and now Devin Carter is back id rather play him.

My offer would be

Huerter + 2 2nds for Olynyk and whatever non bad salary Toronto wanted to include

Huerter + Colby + Len + 2 2nds for Olynyk + Boucher.

Toronto has no real bad salary. Olynik isn't bad, Brown and Boucher are useful and both are expiring deals. Only thing is Quickley is overpaid by a few million each year but Masai jumped the gun not taking a shot he was signed to an offer sheet and he had to match

First deal does nothing for Toronto it actually adds bad salary next year. We don't want Huerter

That's fair. In reality brown and olynyk don't do much for me.

That would be my offer personally and if Toronto didn't like it hopefully they can get a 2nd + expiring for olynyk.

[Ell Curry]

Maybe this?

Orlando - Huerter, Crowder, 2025 PDX 2nd (TOR)
Raptors - Cole Anthony, Gary Harris, DEN 2025 1st
Kings - Olynyk, Nick Richards
Hornets - Davion Mitchell + SAC 2nd

Orlando gets a shooter for moving down 10 picks or so in the draft.

Kings get some bigs and take on no money, for a 2nd. Lyles expires and they have enough space in the summer to spend 8-10M of the MLE on a backup wing.

Hornets get a 2nd and expiring for Richards. Maybe this squeezes just enough cap room for them to sign a 5 like Capela this summer, or maybe they take on Nurkic's last year for nothing.

Raptors move up 10 picks in the draft.

[daoneandonly]

DOnt see Tor doing this as Huerter is just not that good and paid like he is

[oldncreaky]

I'd prefer to keep Lyles.

And honestly I've moved on from Bruce Brown. Keon Ellis is in that role, and now Devin Carter is back id rather play him.

My offer would be

Huerter + 2 2nds for Olynyk and whatever non bad salary Toronto wanted to include

Huerter + Colby + Len + 2 2nds for Olynyk + Boucher.

Pass

Agree. TOR already has a bunch of wings with questionable D. Olynyk ain't much but plays a position of need

Note on the salaries:
Huerter for Olynyk straight-up without any other salaries works, and that allows SAC to get a TPE for Huerter's salary because SAC can take Olynyk into the NTMLE.
Not sure if that is enough to entice SAC to send TOR something they'd actually value, because Colby, Len or SRPs don't hold much value to TOR

[OGSactownballer]

I'd prefer to keep Lyles.

And honestly I've moved on from Bruce Brown. Keon Ellis is in that role, and now Devin Carter is back id rather play him.

My offer would be

Huerter + 2 2nds for Olynyk and whatever non bad salary Toronto wanted to include

Huerter + Colby + Len + 2 2nds for Olynyk + Boucher.

Pass

Agree. TOR already has a bunch of wings with questionable D. Olynyk ain't much but plays a position of need

Note on the salaries:
Huerter for Olynyk straight-up without any other salaries works, and that allows SAC to get a TPE for Huerter's salary because SAC can take Olynyk into the NTMLE.
Not sure if that is enough to entice SAC to send TOR something they'd actually value, because Colby, Len or SRPs don't hold much value to TOR

I’d be all about this.

[LightTheBeam]

Pass

Agree. TOR already has a bunch of wings with questionable D. Olynyk ain't much but plays a position of need

Note on the salaries:
Huerter for Olynyk straight-up without any other salaries works, and that allows SAC to get a TPE for Huerter's salary because SAC can take Olynyk into the NTMLE.
Not sure if that is enough to entice SAC to send TOR something they'd actually value, because Colby, Len or SRPs don't hold much value to TOR

I’d be all about this.

As would I. But not enough to include a good 1st. Which is really all Sac can offer aside from 2nds. We don't have any mid end prospects or late 1sts. Not really a fit here.

Not sure where Toronto is going to find an offer they want for Olynyk. Looking at the league, find a matching useless expiring salary + 2nds. Or a team that would actually give a 1st?

Olynyk is almost 34, injured to start the season, and isn't cracking 15mpg on a bad Toronto team. I guess I don't see the market. Time will tell. I guess if the Clippers don't want to make a bigger move this year, Tucker + 2nds works.