Bears 9.0: Thomas Brown HC audition, offseason/draft prep

[patryk7754]

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I know a lot of people will hate this. But if we can’t get Johnson, Carroll is actually my number 2.

Same (assuming Tomlin isn’t actually tradeable). From what I gather, people are only turned off by him because of age. Which is understandable. He’ll be here for a short time, but it would be a great stint, I think.

[Dresden]

Um its not. This is the GM who picked the last coach and the ownership that has been here since the early 80s and the current managing owner since 2011.

Kevin Warren is new, and this is Poles first chance to truly pick his HC. Even if he did have input on Eberflus, I think a GM is allowed one mistake. I'm just willing to wait and see what happens before declaring it's another disaster.

Kevin "no thanks Harbaugh" Warren brought in the build a new stadium and has made zero progress on that other then to say "shovels in dirt in 2025". If that is your hope... Good luck...

Maybe you underestimated the hurdles involved in getting a new stadium built, esp. in a state as financially strapped as Illinois.

[Dresden]

Kevin "no thanks Harbaugh" Warren brought in the build a new stadium and has made zero progress on that other then to say "shovels in dirt in 2025". If that is your hope... Good luck...

Honestly, the stadium is not on Warren. The Bears have only offered to finance the project if they get public money, and the state has consistently rejected public money. If ownership won't cut the check, there is nothing Warren can do about it.

That is the only reason he was brought in, because he got the Viking stadium built. It may not be his money being spent. But it is his job to get it built. Hes not a "football guy" he is a business guy.

It's obviously not the only reason he was brought in, or else he wouldn't be involved in the coaching search.

[ThisGuyFawkes]

Um its not. This is the GM who picked the last coach and the ownership that has been here since the early 80s and the current managing owner since 2011.

Kevin Warren is new, and this is Poles first chance to truly pick his HC. Even if he did have input on Eberflus, I think a GM is allowed one mistake. I'm just willing to wait and see what happens before declaring it's another disaster.

Kevin "no thanks Harbaugh" Warren brought in the build a new stadium and has made zero progress on that other then to say "shovels in dirt in 2025". If that is your hope... Good luck...

You're not even a bears fan. It's one thing for a bears fan to come in this thread and be pessimistic. When it's from another team, that's trolling. Please take it somewhere else.

[ThisGuyFawkes]

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I agree with him. It's not necessary. How many of the teams currently looking for HC's are also going to get a new GM, or extend their GM's to align with the coaches?

That is how you end up firing 3 GMs and 5 HCs in 13 years.

Once again...

[Dresden]

I agree with him. It's not necessary. How many of the teams currently looking for HC's are also going to get a new GM, or extend their GM's to align with the coaches?

That is how you end up firing 3 GMs and 5 HCs in 13 years.

If it didn’t matter to anyone, Ryan Poles would not be informing candidates of his status at their interviews. Furthermore, Ben Johnson wouldn’t have mentioned alignment as one of his criteria. Although I prefer to emphasize philosophical alignment.

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It's fine for candidates to want to know the status of the GM, it's not important that his term and the prospective coach's terms are exactly the same. In a perfect world it might be nice, but its an absolute necessity, as some people seem to think. At least that's my opinion, and I don't think it's the case around the league when hires are made.

[Dresden]

It could be Jerry Jones hasn't made up his mind yet about McCarthy. As of next Tuesday he'll be free to meet with whoever he wants.

[Dresden]

I could see going with Pete Carroll for 2-3 years. But only if Ben Johnson doesn't want the job. Pete's teams always played hard nosed football, ran the ball well, and threw it effectively when they needed to. In some ways, that might be an easier style to adapt to the Bears' personnel than the turbo charged kind of offense the Lions employ.

[Jcool0]

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[cocktailswith_2short]

I hope you guys get Carroll. By the end of training camp you'll all love him . Plus you have to believe he'd bring in a hell of a staff .

[Betta Bulleavit]

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There’s not going to be a reason as to why they will get it right this time….until they get it right.

One thing that I’ve come to realize about the media is that they are leaches If you’re really good, they love you because it gives them something to talk about. If you’re really bad, they also love it….because it gives them something to talk about.

The Bears are prime rib for the media right now because they haven’t gotten much right. Therefore, it’s easy to pile on because it’s the popular thing to do. I just wonder what the energy is going to be like once they turn things around. Quite frankly, I’ve about had it with the idea that we should just revoke our fandom because we’re oh so hopeless.

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

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There’s not going to be a reason as to why they will get it right this time….until they get it right.

One thing that I’ve come to realize about the media is that they are leaches If you’re really good, they love you because it gives them something to talk about. If you’re really bad, they also love it….because it gives them something to talk about.

The Bears are prime rib for the media right now because they haven’t gotten much right. Therefore, it’s easy to pile on because it’s the popular thing to do. I just wonder what the energy is going to be like once they turn things around. Quite frankly, I’ve about had it with the idea that we should just revoke our fandom because we’re oh so hopeless.

True the media are leeches. But they are right, there is zero reason to believe these guys are getting it right and its worrisome for some of us fans and why shouldn’t it be?

I have no interest in revoking my fandom and I will be ecstatic if and when they turn things around. Sorry you don’t like the energy of this topic but there’s plenty of reason for us to have this opinion. We don’t all have to agree right? Go Bears

[biggestbullsfan]

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I feel like Ben Johnson was on Thursday too. At least that’s the earliest we can meet with them.

[Betta Bulleavit]

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There’s not going to be a reason as to why they will get it right this time….until they get it right.

One thing that I’ve come to realize about the media is that they are leaches If you’re really good, they love you because it gives them something to talk about. If you’re really bad, they also love it….because it gives them something to talk about.

The Bears are prime rib for the media right now because they haven’t gotten much right. Therefore, it’s easy to pile on because it’s the popular thing to do. I just wonder what the energy is going to be like once they turn things around. Quite frankly, I’ve about had it with the idea that we should just revoke our fandom because we’re oh so hopeless.

True the media are leeches. But they are right, there is zero reason to believe these guys are getting it right and its worrisome for some of us fans and why shouldn’t it be?

I have no interest in revoking my fandom and I will be ecstatic if and when they turn things around. Sorry you don’t like the energy of this topic but there’s plenty of reason for us to have this opinion. We don’t all have to greet right? Go Bears

There’s been reason for concern. But it’s like I said at the very beginning of my post. There will never be reason to believe that they will get it right UNTIL they actually get it right. But the constant pessimism an poo poo’ing on anyone that believes they can get it right has made the discussion (city wide) very depressing. I just happen to think that it’s okay to talk a little about how we can get it right. I also happen to think that getting it right might not look exactly like what the media thinks “right” is. In fact it seems like most media and fans aren’t even interested in talking about what getting it “right” would even look like.

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

There’s not going to be a reason as to why they will get it right this time….until they get it right.

One thing that I’ve come to realize about the media is that they are leaches If you’re really good, they love you because it gives them something to talk about. If you’re really bad, they also love it….because it gives them something to talk about.

The Bears are prime rib for the media right now because they haven’t gotten much right. Therefore, it’s easy to pile on because it’s the popular thing to do. I just wonder what the energy is going to be like once they turn things around. Quite frankly, I’ve about had it with the idea that we should just revoke our fandom because we’re oh so hopeless.

True the media are leeches. But they are right, there is zero reason to believe these guys are getting it right and its worrisome for some of us fans and why shouldn’t it be?

I have no interest in revoking my fandom and I will be ecstatic if and when they turn things around. Sorry you don’t like the energy of this topic but there’s plenty of reason for us to have this opinion. We don’t all have to greet right? Go Bears

There’s been reason for concern. But it’s like I said at the very beginning of my post. There will never be reason to believe that they will get it right UNTIL they actually get it right. But the constant pessimism an poo poo’ing on anyone that believes they can get it right has made the discussion (city wide) very depressing. I just happen to think that it’s okay to talk a little about how we can get it right. I also happen to think that getting it right might not look exactly like what the media thinks “right” is. In fact it seems like most media and fans aren’t even interested in talking about what getting it “right” would even look like.

Sure we do.I don’t think its overly depressing in here considering the circumstances. And I try to stay fairly positive, I do, but I’d like to give some constructive criticism too. Neither of us are right or wrong, we just have different opinions on how they go about their business. And it scares me that one of these Eberflus 2.0’s they are going to talk to might just say the right thing to sucker them. Poles loves to try and find those diamonds in the rough.

[fleet]

After that presser last night, and the Bears wide cast for a hundred coaches, Khan’s aggressive focus on priorities seems likely more effective than the Bears who seem quite confused.

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[Jcool0]

After that presser last night, and the Bears wide cast for a hundred coaches, Khan’s aggressive focus on priorities seems likely more effective than the Bears who seem quite confused.

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FWIW Khan is in the running for worst owner in the NFL. Jacksonville is 62-144 since Khan bought the team in 2012.

[fleet]

Good thing for him he and his focused money are up against George and Ryan. Maybe they’ll finish their interviews by the end of February. I feel way less confident that the Bears will show Ben the love like Khan will. Ben’s gonna have to prefer the Bears already. I don’t see George and his committee selling the Bears.

[othawhitemeat]

After that presser last night, and the Bears wide cast for a hundred coaches, Khan’s aggressive focus on priorities seems likely more effective than the Bears who seem quite confused.

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I CANT stand Kevin Warren. Dude is an idiot and does not need to have any decision making outside of stadium progress. I like Ben Johnson but only way I would take him with Ownership/Warren is if he tells them he is only taking job if he gets say so and they dont meddle too much. Only way we can overcome current ownership/Warren is someone like that in which they give into his demands or a Carroll type that is established and not put up with the front office stupidity.

[Betta Bulleavit]

After that presser last night, and the Bears wide cast for a hundred coaches, Khan’s aggressive focus on priorities seems likely more effective than the Bears who seem quite confused.

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FWIW Khan is in the running for worst owner in the NFL. Jacksonville is 62-144 since Khan bought the team in 2012.

So now that Johnson to the Jags has been confirmed, what do you guys think should be next for the lowly Bears?