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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#21 » by Big J » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:13 am

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Samurai wrote:Since Purdy has his own thread, can't we keep the Purdy discussion to the Purdy thread? Otherwise we have to read the exact same drivel in that thread in every other one. Can we keep this thread to the team's offseason as it relates to players that do not already have their own thread? Or is the copy/paste/vomit obsession so strong that it cannot be resisted to regurgitate the exact same argument in every thread?


I'm fine with that. Can we discuss bringing in other QB's here?


I'm guessing talking about who to bring in as QB2 and QB3 won't bring about much compelling conversation, thus there won't be much participation on that topic.

But knock yourself out.


Trading for McCarthy isn't compelling?
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#22 » by 49er4life1979 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:21 am

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Good riddance to both Schneider and Sorenson. Both very much earned their pink slips.


I think the Niners are open minded to a defensive philosophy change. Remember last year they went after Belichick and made a move for Spagnuolo. I also would love Saleh or Ulbrich.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#23 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:26 am

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I'm fine with that. Can we discuss bringing in other QB's here?


I'm guessing talking about who to bring in as QB2 and QB3 won't bring about much compelling conversation, thus there won't be much participation on that topic.

But knock yourself out.


Trading for McCarthy isn't compelling?


It isnt going to happen. Better chance of winning Powerball.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#24 » by Big J » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:35 am

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I'm guessing talking about who to bring in as QB2 and QB3 won't bring about much compelling conversation, thus there won't be much participation on that topic.

But knock yourself out.


Trading for McCarthy isn't compelling?


It isnt going to happen. Better chance of winning Powerball.


Why not? Sounds like Vikings want to commit to Darnold.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#25 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:57 am

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I'm fine with that. Can we discuss bringing in other QB's here?


I'm guessing talking about who to bring in as QB2 and QB3 won't bring about much compelling conversation, thus there won't be much participation on that topic.

But knock yourself out.


Trading for McCarthy isn't compelling?


No.

Disregarding your thorough bias against Purdy, SF won't be getting McCarthy. Even if Minnesota entertains trading him, SF won't pay the required price for multiple reasons.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#26 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:00 am

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Good riddance to both Schneider and Sorenson. Both very much earned their pink slips.


I think the Niners are open minded to a defensive philosophy change. Remember last year they went after Belichick and made a move for Spagnuolo. I also would love Saleh or Ulbrich.


I don't recall the Spags chatter. But its not like he was going to leave KC in a lateral move anyways.

But, I do agree that they are open to a defensive philosophy shake up.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#27 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:26 am

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Trading for McCarthy isn't compelling?


It isnt going to happen. Better chance of winning Powerball.


Why not? Sounds like Vikings want to commit to Darnold.

The Vikings have said they are not going to trade McCarthy and the 49ers are.not going to part with the draft capital to get him.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#28 » by Big J » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:42 am

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I'm guessing talking about who to bring in as QB2 and QB3 won't bring about much compelling conversation, thus there won't be much participation on that topic.

But knock yourself out.


Trading for McCarthy isn't compelling?


No.

Disregarding your thorough bias against Purdy, SF won't be getting McCarthy. Even if Minnesota entertains trading him, SF won't pay the required price for multiple reasons.


Eh, seems like it would give the team a ton of leverage in the contract negotiations of he who shall not be named in this thread.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#29 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:48 am

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Trading for McCarthy isn't compelling?


No.

Disregarding your thorough bias against Purdy, SF won't be getting McCarthy. Even if Minnesota entertains trading him, SF won't pay the required price for multiple reasons.


Eh, seems like it would give the team a ton of leverage in the contract negotiations of he who shall not be named in this thread.


Brilliant. Give up.valuable draft capital needed the rebuild the roster for leverage.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#30 » by Big J » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:58 am

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thesack12 wrote:
No.

Disregarding your thorough bias against Purdy, SF won't be getting McCarthy. Even if Minnesota entertains trading him, SF won't pay the required price for multiple reasons.


Eh, seems like it would give the team a ton of leverage in the contract negotiations of he who shall not be named in this thread.


Brilliant. Give up.valuable draft capital needed the rebuild the roster for leverage.


Giving up capital is nothing compared to giving up cap space.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#31 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 5:41 am

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Eh, seems like it would give the team a ton of leverage in the contract negotiations of he who shall not be named in this thread.


Brilliant. Give up.valuable draft capital needed the rebuild the roster for leverage.


Giving up capital is nothing compared to giving up cap space.


Yes it is. Draft capital is how you rebuild your roster. They already lost too much.on Lance for nothing. They have holes all over the roster
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#32 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 1:58 pm

Chatter out there suggesting they are considering shifting Sorenson into the Special Teams coordinator role. Also, that they will consider making Staley the DC.

Gotta say, I wouldn't be happy with either of those outcomes. Simply shuffling the chairs, is not going to make much of a difference.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#33 » by 49er4life1979 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:02 pm

thesack12 wrote:Chatter out there suggesting they are considering shifting Sorenson into the Special Teams coordinator role. Also, that they will consider making Staley the DC.

Gotta say, I wouldn't be happy with either of those outcomes. Simply shuffling the chairs, is not going to make much of a difference.


I havent seen Staley's name anywhere for DC. Sorensen used to play and coach special teams so who knows. They like him for sure. Also talk of having Sorensen on the defensive staff in some capacity.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#34 » by Big J » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:45 pm

Feels like Kyle is just playing whack a mole with coordinators. Let’s just fire this guy, fire that guy and hope it fixes the problem. Good teams like the Chiefs & Lions allow their coordinators to make mistakes and grow from them. Our coordinators are always going to be on edge if they feel like they will be the fall guy if something goes wrong. This is the same reason all of Trumps ventures end up failing.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#35 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:47 pm

Big J wrote:Feels like Kyle is just playing whack a mole with coordinators. Let’s just fire this guy, fire that guy and hope it fixes the problem. Good teams like the Chiefs & Lions allow their coordinators to make mistakes and grow from them. Our coordinators are always going to be on edge if they know they will be the fall guy if something goes wrong.


Not easy to maintain continuity with guys you actually want to keep, when they keep getting plucked away and offered HC jobs.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#36 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:49 pm

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thesack12 wrote:Chatter out there suggesting they are considering shifting Sorenson into the Special Teams coordinator role. Also, that they will consider making Staley the DC.

Gotta say, I wouldn't be happy with either of those outcomes. Simply shuffling the chairs, is not going to make much of a difference.


I havent seen Staley's name anywhere for DC. Sorensen used to play and coach special teams so who knows. They like him for sure. Also talk of having Sorensen on the defensive staff in some capacity.


Re Staley: It was more of a connecting the dots type of thing. Which admittedly isn't the strongest of sources.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#37 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:50 pm

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I doubt Saleh lands another HC gig in this current landscape.

So I guess, Its looking like Saleh is a shoe in to be the new DC. Unless he doesn't want it.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#38 » by Big J » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:50 pm

thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:Feels like Kyle is just playing whack a mole with coordinators. Let’s just fire this guy, fire that guy and hope it fixes the problem. Good teams like the Chiefs & Lions allow their coordinators to make mistakes and grow from them. Our coordinators are always going to be on edge if they know they will be the fall guy if something goes wrong.


Not easy to maintain continuity with guys you actually want to keep, when they keep getting plucked away and offered HC jobs.


Still no excuse for hiring someone who you don’t trust to learn from their mistakes.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#39 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:51 pm

Big J wrote:
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Big J wrote:Feels like Kyle is just playing whack a mole with coordinators. Let’s just fire this guy, fire that guy and hope it fixes the problem. Good teams like the Chiefs & Lions allow their coordinators to make mistakes and grow from them. Our coordinators are always going to be on edge if they know they will be the fall guy if something goes wrong.


Not easy to maintain continuity with guys you actually want to keep, when they keep getting plucked away and offered HC jobs.


Still no excuse for hiring someone who you don’t trust to learn from their mistakes.


So you are saying based on what you saw this season, you were willing to give Sorenson another chance?
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#40 » by Big J » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:03 pm

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Not easy to maintain continuity with guys you actually want to keep, when they keep getting plucked away and offered HC jobs.


Still no excuse for hiring someone who you don’t trust to learn from their mistakes.


So you are saying based on what you saw this season, you were willing to give Sorenson another chance?


No, I’m saying why hire someone in the first place if you don’t trust them to do the job long term.

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